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Perry who is trailing from behind. these are the people that social conservatives are probably going to break to at the end of the day, particularly someone like rick perry, but it is striking to me that you end up having ron paul first, then herman cain second. thats a striking finding. >> mark murray, thank you. >> thank you. michele bachmanns win in august at the ames straw poll, it seems like a long time ago. rick perry, herman cain leaped forward in the polls. there are whispers on the ca...

Having someone like ron paul win who is a strict libertarian, who doesnt believe the government should have any roll for almost anything, thats probably the reason the organizers are a little ticked. >> but if they dismiss the winner of their own poll, doesnt that discount the validity of the straw poll itself? >> a little bit. it is important to note that straw polls, sometimes you take them with a grain of salt. the actual voting is not going to begin until january or february. those are the c...

Their values. ron paul won with a third of the vote. herman cain, rick santorum round out the top three. joining me to make sense of this, mark murray. mark, here is the fascinating thing about the poll. the organization that conducted the summit has already started to cast doubts on the results. tony perkins told cnn today, quote, i dont think ron paul is truly reflective of where value voters stand. why no love for ron paul? >> i think the no love factor comes in that ron paul and his folks re...

The next two years but does long-term -- >> it is amazing spend really isnt coming up with obama. maybe he isnt in as strong a position if he would. maybe believes in these wars at this point. ive come to feel stephen carter in his new book talks about how obama is really prosecuting these wars with more ferocity at this point than george w. bush. hes done the surge in afghanistan. he has really shown himself to be something of a hawk when it comes to the wars. >> how depressing, ron paul. it se...

Ron, it is always good to talk to you. >> thank you. good to be with you. >> weve got news nbc news/"wall street journal" poll numbers that show that barack obamas numbers have gone up a good bit. im wondering, is it possible that he could use this popularity to strike a deal to actually bring down the debt? >> its always possible. you know, politicians are politicians, and when the handwritings on the wall, sometimes they change their ways. so it seems like he is bending in that direction. but,...

To line up bail-out money. so they dont face an economic collapse. its happening across europe. it could happen here. >> there is no way we can make significant cuts without growing the economy. thats really the problem. i agree with tina that the republicans sound completely behind the curve. but they have won the battle. when it comes to which is the greatest priority, reducing the deficit, or reducing the long-term unemployment with 27 million people out of work or underemployed. thats really...

In afghanistan for another decade, and this is what weve been warning about for some time on this show, america sleeps. >> were not really even as a nation discussing it anymore. the subject of afghanistan is sort of off the table. >> in the meantime, china is spending billions of dollars mining afghanistans precious mineral reserves. while were spending hundreds of billions of dollars prosecuting an unwinnable war. who do you think is going to be the winner? >> and, while we have been pursuing ...

Embrace the debt commissions entire recommendation, he of course would have democrats angry with him, but more importantly for himself politically, he would find the middle ground and republicans, most republicans, other than people like ron paul, who would agree that we need to actually make serious cuts -- i think republican leadership would be tongue-tied. they wouldnt know what to do and obama would have the middle and i think he would be in an unassailable political position. is that a poss...

Difference for you, harold. >> i like business. i like jobs. i think when you create jobs, business people got to feel good. >> harold, you may like jobs but you love obama. >> amen. >> i wouldnt go that far. coming up -- senator joe lieberman joins us. congressman ron paul. a "new york times" columnist, thomas friedman. we have so much to talk about. >> the political playbook as well, buy former president bill clinton is coming under fire from some of his long-time supporters. but first, lets...

Family and everyone who made this possible. love you all!" >> i think i speak for many of the "new york times" best selling authors sitting around this table, i think our brand has been cheapened. >> i dont know. i dont know. >> congratulations, snooks. you deserve it. no? >> heres what you do. you never hate. just give her props. >> were not calling her names. >> he read the book. >> we have an e-mail about harold. you seem to be a nerd. >> what is it, chris? >> 2:15 friday afternoon. harold fo...