guy got ahold of a gun, probably a semiautomatic gun, i would have to believe, because of all of the people that were injured or killed as a result of this shooting, and he specifically targeted this mall and he specifically targeted because clearly it was a soft target. he knew that this was during a period where families would be out taking their children to get school clothing and school equipment. and he specifically went in there. he specifically knew what he was doing. he started from the outside, went inside, shot and killed as many people as he could and then like a coward, he put his gun down and surrendered to law enforcement. jon: yeah. well, thank goodness that he did. there were early reports that there were multiple shooters or they thought there might be
powerful. emotions can t win back the day. facts are facts. explain to us what the bump stock really is. it certainly doesn t convert a semiautomatic laura: that s what the president said. kind of. he ordered that it be that are will be issued. if they do go down that road, it s not going to stop bad guys from getting them, because no gun law yet has worked to stop bad guys just look at chicago. chicago has been an utter failure. what actually woodwork is what candidate donald trump used to talk about, and that was repealing gun free zones so that the good people can shoot back at the bad people and unfortunately we didn t have that they are in florida. we protect our president with guns. we protect the congress with guns, the senators, the representatives. but how do we protect our schools? we put a sign out front that says no guns are allowed here.
laura: anecdotally. you grew up in connecticut. connecticut after newtown changed its minimum law from 19 to 21. why is it bad to make florida the same thing? he couldn t get a handgun at that age. i m trying to ask a question. and i m answering. this top-down approach thing you can own a firearm we say you can at 19. it is not working. it didn t work, he fought a long gun and shot a school. laura: there are a lot of things he legally bought an ar-15 at the age of 19 because it was an ar-15 he did not have to go throw waiting period. laura: first of all i don t want to disenfranchised mrs. mcgillicuddy over second amendment rights. i don t know her, but i will say this, i think in this country right now we have really big
buying a gun was not a big deal, a lot of people had guns, they still do, a lot more laws there now. we never had thought of having a drill for something like this. something has shifted in society both with us as individuals, with families, with common sense, with us caring about each other. i think we have to think about those are big issues. people have made people think that way. laura: i swear we had more guns in connecticut when i was growing up. there are other victims of mass shootings like a man i personally know, officer rob young of california. he was shot at the stockton california school as a first grader. he completely advocates teachers, principals. he says we can t get there quickly enough. same thing with patrick knebel, a survivor of columbine, says the same thing.
societal problems that nobody wants to discuss. i will submit that you can ban the bump stock, ban the ar-15 and we are still going to be dealing with massive sociological problems in our schools and sociopathic kids who nobody cares about, nobody loves i m not disagreeing with you. i m saying we have bigger problems than the bump stocks. i m not saying that s the be-all and end-all of gun ownership our second amendment rights, but we have really big problems in this country. this kid was a mess and he i don t think you should have been able to get a gun. i don t think he should ve been able to do what he did. obviously he is a total messed up freak and nobody seemed to care about him. and the teachers couldn t do anything, the students were afraid of him. no one did anything. that s wild. and the fbi got a call that he was going to shoot up the school and they did nothing. no law is going to keep him