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Together to figure out where they meet. the problem thats been is they meet more than half way. >> was that a mistake on the presidents part? >> well, i think a lot of people do believe that. i mean, im more of a moderate democrat. i see the need to make some of these cuts. the problem is that we have to put everything on the table, including defense, for example. and the republicans right now are wanting to increase the defense budget rather than to help us figure out where the waste, fraud and...