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2020 election. so they are getting it from both directions right now. and the only way to make the pain stop is to come up with some kind of a settlement. >> that is the first revelation i think from the first disclosures of the discovery process we learned about, how driven by the stock price tucker carlsons editorial programming decisions were. i think one of the first publicly released communications, i dont remember if they were text messages or emails, were about. look at the stock price, g...

Experience with this kind of treatment, that if someone is subjected to enough physical pain, that person will say whatever is necessary in order to make that pain stop. and thats why theres also a wealth of misinformation that comes out of people who are being subjected to it. >> truth? >> the situation with khalid sheikh mohammed, the man who cut danny pearls head off. he was subjected to harsh interrogation for a couple of weeks, tough couple of weeks, he was in our custody for three or four ...

Whatever is necessary in order to make that pain stop. and thats why theres also a wealth of misinformation that comes out of people who are being subjected to it. >> thats one of the big debates that the torture report has set up. did it work? was it worth it? probably a bigger question for many, was it right? we certainly now know senator john mccains stance. >> its been his stance for a long time. he, of course, was a whizzer prf war for many years in vietnam. glenn carl is the author of "the...

Strong one, whats more dispute side whether or not its effective in 2011, as you know, the director of the cia leon panetta at the time wrote, some of the detainees who provided information had been subjected to enhanced interrogation techniques and whether they were the only timely and effective way when it came to the information to detention and capture of bin laden cannot be established. >> i know that when then director of the cia cant establish it then its pretty hard to do. i do know that...

Was raised in this article today which i just discussed in the previous segment. could we have gotten this information, whatever information we got, could we have obtained it faster if these techniques had not got engine the way? >> thats the correct assessment. the element of interrogation, what works, whats scientifically demonstrated efficacy of the approach the parkt approach is going to work. theres no shortcut. theres no time expedient approach. its not backed up by what we know from scien...

Previous segment. could we have gotten this information, whatever information we got, could we have obtained it faster if these techniques had not got engine the way? >> thats the correct assessment. the element of interrogation, what works, whats scientifically demonstrated efficacy of the approach the parkt approach is going to work. theres no shortcut. theres no time expedient approach. its not backed up by what we know from science. >> in the military study citing in the last segment, it ind...

Interrogator in both iraq wars. >> thank you for having me. >> i want to get to this point, lets get past the question of exactly what did we get through these enhanced techniques. but the question of timing which was raised in this article today which i just discussed in the previous segment. could we have gotten this information, whatever information we got, could we have obtained it faster if these techniques had not got engine -- techniques had not gotten in the way. >> thats the correct ass...