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All engines and let the thing crash theyre going to be begging to fix it. after all if i may say this, this is their mess. obamacare is whats at stake and the premiums are going through the roof, et cetera et cetera. >> so the president here allows -- didnt get anything passed and allowing everything to fail -- >> is democrats going to get the blame here -- ill call this the dondy strategy. >> dondy was all about denying healthcare. >> yeah. >> he was all about pushing the books to crises. thats...

Biggest gop promise since abolition and theyre backing away from it. what incentive is there for republicans to go out and vote. >> instead of thomas jefferson and slave risks its like having a wolf by the ears you. cant let go of it and you cant hold on. this is the problem theyre in now. this is a quagmire. they cant give it up. remember said obamacare is the law of the land. were going to move on. they cannot abandon it. i just wonder when i do doh they move on? will they ever do tax reform o...

Votes to raise the debt limit. i think its entirely possible the democrats are going to say, we are only going to fund, keep the government open if you, mr. president and the republican party agree to fund obamacare. and theyre going to have some leverage. >> you mean a shut down threat? >> yeah. >> sounds very cruz like to me. >> when he said hes going to let it fail i think what hes meaning to say well, im going to sit back and nothing is going to happen. hes going to make it fail. thats the d...

More breaking news tonight. republican senators working late on capitol hill meeting with white house staffers, trying to come up with the next plan on health care. this comes as the cbo says that 32 million fewer people would be insured by 2026 and premiums would skyrocket if obamacare is repealed. the cbo also says the move would decrease the deficit by $473 billion over a decade. phil mattingly joins us now. so whats going on at this meeting tonight, what do we know about it? >> an interestin...

Support obamacare. i will point out it didnt make the news its luke yesterday. thats like two treasons and an extortion ago. democratic senator from new hampshire introduced the legislation. its a small bill but it would fix one of the big problems which is these cost sharing reductions. insurance companies that are losing their shirts on a few particular patients. she has legislation that would fix. that its an easy fix. the republicans in the senate wouldnt even let her bring it up. thats the ...

Mr. president. >> he cant control it, thats why hes obsessed with it. he believes he should be able to control everything, so the fact is, you can talk about hes off message, hes stepping on his political message. this isnt a communications problem for donald trump. this is an actual investigation. >> we have to take a quick break and continue this conversation. the president has just put out a statement on john mccain. "senator john mccain has always been a fighter. melania and i send our thoug...

Lot of different things. it is supposed to be a budget office, getting into the health care numbers, it does not do a very good job of that. the obamacare estimates, it is not that people are going to lose coverage, but they are predicting massive recesses going forward under obamacare. 18 million people on the exchange next year. you know how many there are right now? 10 million, and it has been declining. no way in heck it will be 18 million. >> sandra: but the huge hurdle, you mention susan c...

>> sandra: senator rand paul cautioning the president on overselling the g.o.p. plan. >> i would caution about overselling what is going to happen. i have been in health care for 20 years as a physician. it was in terrible shape before obamacare, got worse under obamacare. the republican plan admits that it will continue. but they say, hey, guys, we are going to subsidize it. we will dump billions of dollars into the insurance companies and say police charge less and try to counteract the death ...

With tax-free dollars. i think that will help bring some market forces. >> jessica: what about the preexistence existing conditions. this was a major concern round one, people like susan collins, they were republicans saying absolutely not. we cannot take back on pre-existing conditions. >> sandra: i would be shocked if that happens. who is going to approve that waiver? >> jessica: >> harris: the trutt where we are, we are not at the point where the senators are ready to vote on the bill yet. we...

To focus this. and, of course, these issues have been talked about for years. so they are trying to encourage members to see if they can get to a yes bill that will work for republicans to complete the promise to repeal the health care law, obamacare, or will it fall apart? we dont know. the white house has a lighter touch trying to influence the members from what were being told. alex? >> kelly odonnell, thank you so much for that. on the heels of t"the kelly report," lets bring in tanothe me...