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State of massachusetts rejected their application over religious beliefs and now they are suing the commonwealth over it. Im john roberts, welcome to wednesday. Gillian nice to be here on a beautiful blue sky day. John what a picture. Gillian im Gillian Turner in for sandra smith. Kitty and mike burke say they were turned down because of adherence to catholic teachings, a letter says they would not be affirming to a child who identified as lgbtqia plus. Comes as they struggle to accommodate 1500...

Priority. >> yes. theres no doubt that the american business community has stepped up to the plate and hit a home run over the last decade when it comes to helping our service members and those who are injured, ill, and wounded find those meaningful economic opportunities. and so, you know, were really honored to work with a lot of great companies who have done a lot of great things on that front. but theyre starting to really treat military talent as a tremendous talent set that helps move thei...

Strategist doesnt make a good governance person in either your office or in this case, the presidency. and the president needs to make that determination. and thats where a good chief of staff can come in and sort of sort those things out. not just because they were there during the nastiness of the campaign, as i said, doesnt always mean, you know, theyre right for position a or position b. they all have a skill set and a talent set that the president should taken advantage of, but, again, i wo...

Through the ride with the candidate all along, versus people who are coming in, you know, in the latter days of the campaign, latter months of the campaign, or even now that east president-elect? >> you know, i think that plays into every candidate for office. sometimes your best campaign strategist doesnt make a good governance person in either your office or in this case, the presidency. and the president needs to make that determination. and thats where a good chief of staff can come in and s...

Corn? >> well, hes made good campaign ads before. and in fact, in texas, hes known for skipping out debates, but coming up with killer ads, usually negative ads, but that are very effective. and so as john mentioned, hell have lots of money. he can still, you know -- >> why cant he do that on stage? is he like a movie star that cant do live theater? >> he doesnt have the talent set to be that person. i dont know how many takes did that commercial take? >> i dont want know. >> 40? 45? 45? i mean,...