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Those five detractors vote against mccarthy consistently yesterday. so it remains unclear if his own influence may even help change the math. right now, at least what i have been hearing from leadership sources, they are still looking at going to the floor. jake just said that maybe they dont. they end up not voting today. but right now, it sounds like byron donald is someone who is willing to switch back. but thats just peeling off one of those 20. youre back to that 19. and mccarthy did sugges...

Okay, they want bridges built. they want if its a ream deal republicans to talk to democrats and cut a deal and mitch mcconnell is being a governing conservative. congressman davis, you just talked to like mitch mcconnell is a governing conservative. we want to get things done. whats the best deal we can get? these 20 hold-outs are not governing anything. they are rabble rousers. >> we already had one -- the house of representatives has 435 members. there is one vacancy because of a death. thats...

Tomorrow to lower a threshold to give an advantage to somebody else? >> no. and i think it showed incredible frankly graciousness and class from representative ocasio cortez to engage with someone who had used violent images against her. but, look, maybe this shows that anything is possible in 2023. and the fact that she had the grace to talk to representative gosar shows that we may be able to have conversations. but at the end of the day, this is the republican mess. this is a failure of them ...

>> when you look the at the concessionings, how healthcare car thi could get these people to change their minds. what leverage does he have at this point that he didnt have a week or two weeks ago? >> those are two distinct questions. he could do anything he wants. hes the speaker. the speaker has enormous power in situation like this. he cant do much to change some of these peoples minds because some of these people just hate him. many people say its not personal, it is personal. i have been ob...

Not vote for him. well get the same vote this time as we got the last four times. >> so, your message to kevin mccarthy is we need to fish or cut bait. like, if you cant get to 218 or 217, whatever the threshold is, we need to find someone else. who might that be? >> the next is line is steve scalise. i dont know if he gets more or less, at some point, we have to start to look at the rules and the committee assignments and other things and get back to the basics of what the peoples self-interest...

In the eyes of the american public as a party that is chaotic when theyre in power. this is the first impression for the american public of what it looks like to have a republican house majority. americans dont care how slim the margins are or the procedural rule changes, necessarily. they care about, are things functioning? right now if you look at the house, they definitely are not. >> we have a graphic on scene of things that mccarthy could do to try to get some of these 20 members on board, ...

Her seemingly trying to work her on the floor. now, this present vote doesnt really do much to change things for mccarthy. doesnt alter the threshold as of right now but it is not a good sign for mccarthy. its moving away from him. she went from a previous vote of supporting mccarthy, now into the present camp which suggests she is still very much on the fence and something to know about victoria spartz. she is weighing a senate bid in indiana. in she does launch a bid there she will likely have...

Now spartz voting present, that means on this round, 212 votd for jeffries, 201 voted for kevin mccarthy. 20 voted for byron donalds. one voted for present. that means there were only 433 votes cast in this fourth round. 50% plus 1 of that is 217. so what that did is lowered the threshold from 218 to 21. neither jeffries nor mccarthy is anywhere near that, but the danger a little bit for mccarthy is present votes can help him in lowering the threshold. but he needs the present votes to be coming...

>> you have new reporting on nbcnews.com. i commend folks to read that. steve kornacki, let me go to you. how many people would kevin mccarthy need? >> thats the other question here. if we were talking last hour about the idea of mccarthy picking up 11 more votes. you have the 20 republicans who voted for jordan. mccarthy picking up 11 of them. i mean, huge, huge if for all the reasons youre talking about. but just mathematically, getting those 11 and then the other nine voting present and what ...

Saying, hey, get through this vote. make sure jeffries doesnt become speaker. but thats the math. 11 republicans voting present and then every democrat continuing to vote for jeffries. this, by the way, the democratic unity on this, thats the other variable, it sounds like an easy thing. this is the first time in more than a decade you had a speaker vote where every democrat has been present and every democrat has been voting for the democratic candidate for speaker. you havent seen a couple dem...