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Presidential debate, joe biden went back out on the debate stage and said this -- >> and we talked about the supreme court, im looking forward to making sure that there is a black woman on the supreme court to make sure that in fact [inaudible] >> and the rest is on its way to becoming history. joining us now is caroline randall williams, poet, essayist, and educator. she is writer in residence at vanderbilt university. caroline, thank you very much for joining us tonight. and this tv drama call...

Caroline, thank you very much for joining us tonight. and this tv drama called supreme court confirmation, which in tv terms began on that debate stage in south carolina, is about a much longer story than that that has been with us for quite some time. ive been eager this week to get your reflections on where we stand tonight in that larger story. >> thank you so much for having me. its good to be back. this is terrifically personal for me, on so many levels, being here -- when james clyburn spe...

So we will see what happens. well see what happens with mr. bannon. well see what happens. well see what happens. >> mr. president , will you attack north korea? >> well see. >> will you attack north korea? well see. is this just the president, i guess, a crutch of speech for him? is that the best way to describe this? >> well, this is a reality tv star, at least in the not too distant past. a guy who knows how to sell a story or episode as it were and this in tv terms is a pretty good cliffhang...

Fake news online. >> coming up next here, in tv terms. were approaching the end of the ultimate reality show. just think about it. donald trump has been producing and programming the trump show since day one of his historic campaign. i mean literally producing it. >> look at all the cameras like the academy awards. this is like the academy awards. lets go, ready. turn off the lights. stupid mike keeps popping. i would love to have those cameras turn over here and show those people. dont turn the...

From a television or entertainment perspective, maybe it went too long. what was your take? >> i really did think it was long. when it moved past 11:00, i was like will this thing ever hand. in fairness, 11 candidate brought fiorina in. thats a big, big number to deal with. the debate did try to deal with substance. i kind of agree with part of what david said. i thought with the two shots and the questions where you ask someone about something they said about you that cnn was pushing the confli...

>> listen. first of all, most of america is not concerned with these tv terms like fiscal cliff and debt ceiling and sequestration. >> what about when i rhyme them together and say sequestration, damnation, louse nation. >hallucination. >> to most of america, its benign to them. when i look at what really happens as a market watcher in the past, here comes the fiscal cliff. guess what. everythings fine, market goes up. >> what happens if we get to march 1st and we go over the cliff or whatever y...

It was george w. bushs message of compassionate conservativism that drew me to support him. and he had very progressive ideas about immigration and education reform. those were the things that attracted me and millions of other independents and conservative democrats. so, until we start recognizing that weve got to have those kind of messages and policies, and greater tolerance, greater diversity, then the numbers are going nowhere but down. >> on abc matthew dowd broke down the republican probl...

Those were the things that attracted me and millions of other independents and conservative democrats. so, until we start recognizing that weve got to have those kind of messages and policies, and greater tolerance, greater diversity, then the numbers are going nowhere but down. >> on abc matthew dowd broke down the republican problems in tv terms. >> whats happening with the republicans, they are -- the republican party is a mad men party in a modern family america and it just doesnt fit anymor...

He softened his back and forthwith newt. >> you think so? >> absolutely. >> i am not so sure with that. >> oh yes greg with his glasses on. >> that looks like something an older person in hee-haw would wear. >> thats enough about my glasses. we are like this. i want to go to another sot, which is tv terms for sound on tape. candidates were asked one thing they would do differently in their campaign and this is what mitt romney said. >> get 25 more votes in iowa, thats for sure. >> matt, you know...

Cool. and this particular species is really wonderful because at seaworld we will do traveling with them. and they also meet our guests. at seaworld we really try and get the animals to be up close and personal with our guests for a little bit of education purposes and conservation purposes. >> penny taking a minute there? >> yeah, just laying down, nice and comfortable. >> did you know they have no bladders? >> i did not know that. >> in case birds have to fly away, as i was learning five minut...