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caution, you are about to enter the "no spin zone" ." "the factor" begins right now. ♪ ♪ hi, i am bill o'reilly, thanks for watching us tonight. president obama's job performance, that is a subject of this evening's "talking points" memo. about an hour from now, barack obama will deliver his farewell address. after eight years in office, he believes he has been successful. others dissent. "wall street journal" editorializing today, "barack obama's presidency has been a disappointment at home and abroad. in fact, ironically, underscored by mr. obama's relentless insistence that he has been a so, now, "talking points" would like to assess and present the facts about president obama on the job. first of all, some of you believe that i, your humble correspondent, have been too easy on mr. obama. over the years, i've received letters like these. speaking of matthew richards, native massachusetts come i didt realize that you are the new spokesman for the white house. bill, you threw softballs of the president. you are losing your edge. monro township new jersey, o'reilly, why are you defending president obama? "talking points" replies this way. i have been fair. i haven't bashed a president. i have not attacked him personally. i have not bought into the opinion that he wants to damage the usa. i have not bought into that. what i have done is analyze what he has done in a fact-based way. so, let's take a hard look at that. president obama the first, he is half african-american, he's a historic figure. he has given hope too many minorities and others who see him as a person with little advantage in his early life. who, through hard work, grows up to become the most powerful man in the world. that is a very positive thing. mr. obama is a role model for success. on the negative side, and expectedly, the president has not improve the economic or social situation of most poor minority americans. there is no more poverty in the usa that there was when he took office. black home ownership down on his administration. and racial division way up. groups like black lives matter have polarized blacks and whites and mr. obama welcomed that radical group to the white hous white house. kind of a mystery to me why barack obama did not concentrate more on solving the poverty problem. key to that is keeping families intact. at one point, i expected mr. and mrs. obama to make that theme one of of the top priorities. it never happened. for poor education in the inner cities. a lax view on narcotics. and the president's muted support of the police, all contributed to chaos poor neighborhoods. those take a look at the health care situation. mr. obama's vision is good. all americans should have acces. but the execution of obamacare put a steep burden on working-class families, as we all know. health insurance premiums way up, deductibles way up. and doctors accepting the health mandate, becoming fewer and fewer. there is no question obamacare will be repealed under president trump. we all have to hope that the republicans will put forth a better plan. on the economic front, mr. obama did a good job on his first year of stabilizing the economy, which was in free fall, because of the mortgage can't that led to the recession. for example, he made the right decision bailing out some american carmakers who have since repaid the feds. but then, mr. obama shifted into massive income redistribution country. that's destabilized europe, as the migrants pour in. and lead to even more terrorism on the continents. on the russia front, mr. obama was totally impotent in the face of the tyrant putin. the former kgb officer did exactly what he wanted to do, including invading countries and hacking into the american political system. also, the chinese don't fear barack obama. they have made the south china sea international waters their own. they took it over. chinese have also undermined the american economy, as donald trump has so often pointed out. finally, the new treaty with iran, still debatable. what is not debatable is that iran is the primary sponsor of terrorism in the world! including, the direct destabilization of countries in the mideast and afghanistan. the iranians do not fear barack obama. in international matters, it's clear, president obama believes global warming is more important than stabilizing and protecting the world. in the face of a global. now, global warming is real. climate change is happening. but mr. obama's vision of hurting certain economic sectors in america in order to lessen fossil fuel intrusion cannot possibly work unless countries like india and china do the same thing. as everyone knows, they are not. so, mr. obama imposed regulations that hurts the american economy, knowing full well that climate change wouldn't improve for a while. does that make any sense? at this point in history, two-thirds of the american people think america is on the wrong track. but they still like barack obama. his approval ratings are about 50%. that is up to the president's credit. he has put forth in emmett java responsibility. but as the nation's leader, mr. obama has not improved the economy to any significant extent, has not diminished poverty and poor education, has not brought americans together, and has used the power of this great nation in a way that has created mayhem abroad. that is the historical record. nothing to do with ideology or wishful thinking. it has everything to do with performance. and that's the memo. next on the rundown, took our presidential historians will react. later, a nasty racial controversy on capitol hill including a painting offensive to american police officers. 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>> it was longer than a sermon on the mound that is perhaps as memorable. i don't think you made mistakes. i think there are some omissions that i would offer up as context, if i were writing the historical legacy of obama. i think on the economic front, you do have to give credit for the rise in the towel, only two other president since 1900 have presided over a rise in a stock market of this scope, calvin coolidge and bill clinton. the tax rates, you talk about how he was interested in redistribution of income. the tax rates are still lower than they were when ronald reagan assigned the bill on his ranch in august of 1981. lowering the rate from 70 under carter to 50, finally got it or 28. >> bill: not the overall -- it's a little sleight-of-hand, meacham, i am surprised that you are down here in nashville, you don't take into social security facts, which is really whacked. working americans, because, the restraints are off, it is much, much higher. and the state situation burden, you have the tax system. and the highest rate of corporate tax of the world, jon. >> right, you have a 3.8% obamacare tax on investing. >> bill: right, so, come on? it's a strange goal situation if you are looking for vibrant growth, you can't get it. >> i agree with that. the economy grew twice as fast under george h.w. bush and he got thrown out of office after one year. >> bill: let's go to mr. azzerad. what do you say? >> i generally agree with you, bill. the problem is with obama, it's his policies. obama, by all accounts, is a good man. i think we could and cried and the fact that he was our first african-american president. the problem is, when you turn to the policies, he pursued aggressively from obamacare to the iran deal to climate change, they are unpopular and they are unsuccessful. i find it telling that when obama is on the ballot, he wins. when he isn't, when it's his policies, it's his legacy, the american voters overwhelmingly reject him in the democratic party gets shellacked as the president himself. >> bill: what is it about barack obama? has he mesmerized people? as i said, his approval rating is better than 50%. yet, two-thirds of the american people think the countries had to get the wrong direction. it doesn't really stock. >> he is young, he is charismatic, the first black president. people want him to succeed. he carries himself more often than not with a certain dignity. so, i don't think it is anything personal. the left wants us to believe that the american people are racist and don't like it president for who he is. i think the whole country wanted him to succeed. he just pushed an agenda that was much more progressive than the country was ready for. and displayed a tin air to the e problems facing the country. >> bill: he wasn't nimble. you think he was too stubborn, jon? he didn't want to work with the republicans, i understand a lot of them were trying to sabotage him. in isis, that really bothers me. everyone told him, hey, you got a big problem here, leon panetta told him, his own guys told him. he kept going, i don't really care. i think that that is going to go down in history, either he was in denial on an issue that has killed tens of thousands of people or he just was incompetent, which is at? >> well, when you write history, character is destiny, you know this. part of the presidents character is he has occasionally given off the sense that if only the american people were commensurate with his brilliance, things would be better. i think that has been a problem with his leadership. i think one thing we have to give him credit for, the other thing about that, he also overcorrected as presidents tend to do, from his predecessor. anything that smacked of george w. bush, obama was going to go the other way. >> bill: particularly dick cheney. but ice is in a glaring error. i don't understand, mr. azzerad, why a president would avoid a confrontation with the group, seeing the massive, massive chaos that it caused. you know, all of these people in the middle east and africa now going into europe. that is going to be a problem for decades to come. it's right on obama's watch. >> his heart was never into foreign policy. i mean, he promised to fundamentally transform the united states of america, to remake the country. he was never interested in foreign policy. he viewed it as a distraction. this accounts were part of it, his heart was never into it braids >> bill: still, the jihad is a presence main focus to protect us. do you think, jon, do you think that barack obama at this point understands the criticisms that i just laid out? or is he one of these people that blocks all that out and said, i did a great job, i don't want to hear anything else? >> he would answer each one. you've interviewed him a lot. one of his favorite formulations is, this notion that -- then, he undercuts it. >> bill: now, we have eight years of facts. >> he is going to spend a long time, this is a man who can live another 50 years, arguing. let me say one other thing about terrorism. i think he has to get credit, i want to hear what you think about this, there has not been a spectacular attack on my on the homeland and his eight years. >> bill: correct. >> he launched ten times, 100 times, as many drone strikes as george w. bush. he killed 3000 terrorists. and i think, and many ways, alienated many people on the left with his anti-terror campaigns. azzerad isis is incredibly impo. >> bill: i think that when it was convenient for him to attack, he attacks. when it was no downside, he did it. but when it was complicated, he didn't. i will give mr. azzerad the last word. give president obama -- i want to grade from you, jon meacham, mr. azzerad, give me a grade. >> according to what you want to great him, i would say, what that he promised to do? president obama promised hope and change. he give us angst and insecurity. he promised to unify us and all he did was divide us by race, by religion, by class, by paying identity politics. i think he has earned a f. but in this stage of great inflation, he will probably get a d. >> i think it is a b. i think the prosperous have gotten more prosperous, that is one of the reasons trump won because the prosperity did not come down to where it needed to come. also, in history, as you know, bill you are not judged only by what your predecessors did, but by how your successors do. so, this will be an open question. >> bill: you gave him a b and mr. azzerad is giving him a d. good discussion. directly ahead, senator sessions telling americans what he should be the next attorney general, even as a some clowns interrupt his testimony on capitol hill. later, the feds once again wasting a colossal amount of tax money on incredibly stupid things. upcoming. say hello to a powerful tool that gives you options to fit your budget. ♪ oh, i'm tied to this chair! ♪ dun-dun-daaaa! i don't know that an insurance-themed comic book is what we're looking for. did i mention he can save people nearly $600? 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americas, most of them, think that it is a despicable display. >> the fact is, bill the people that protested jeff sessions are the same people that protested hillary clinton throughout the entire presidential campaign. many people condemned the behavior today applauded it during the campaign. i think that speaks to the divisions we see in this country. i think the more effective protest was by kaiser con today, the gold star father, who bore silent witness in his opposition to jeff sessions, and his nomination because of his opposition to the full voting rights act, his support of donald trump's muslim band, and his criticism of civil rights groups. >> bill: no one is saying that there are legitimate protesters in a good thing. you mentioned the division of this country, remember, your guy, president obama, promised to bring everyone together. but the country is more divided now than ever, is that correct? >> i think unfortunately, what you say, bill the very beginning of barack obama's presidency, he was met with opposition from the tea party republicans and even donald trump. >> bill: it's not his fault? >> it's a continuation. i think democrats and the left saw that the tea party, the right enter them, were rewarded for that opposition i fail, they are going to do that. >> bill: you see the country as more divided than we have seen in decades, you see that, correct? >> i agree with that. >> bill: let me get over to melissa. so, my posture is that these crazy far left people help sessions and a trump at all of the stuff that they do works against what they really want. >> i don't know who they are really persuading. i saw one woman leaving, she was chanting about black lives matter but she was reading from a note card. i am like, you are so committed to reading this role, you are reading your lines and he didn't even bother to memorize it. it's not very convincing. these folks yell racist at any one who is right of center. and for sensible people out there watching the program tonight, they look inside their own hearts. you only really know your own heart. they say, i know i'm not racist. if that is your best argument, that this point -- >> bill: anyone who voted for donald trump is a racist. that is how they extreme they are. why do you think i'm a melissa, that the country is so divided? >> i think it is based on money. i think we have seen the gap between what mike rich and poor widen amazingly between the president's tenure. meaning, income has fallen. when people are falling behind, can put enough food in the table, don't see their kids' lives as being better, they are so preoccupied with these things, they get very frustrated. all these other things, you blame other thing, is it about a race come about that. everybody was doing better and prospering, -- >> bill: bad economic times mean more frustration. >> more friction. >> bill: do you agree with that, mary anne? >> certainly, tough economic times certainly defines that. then, also, as defined by race and gender. you can't escape that. you have to give barack obama credit, as you did in your talking points, for putting the country back on track economically. what didn't happen is people didn't make more money. they lost wages. they lost the opportunity to get ahead. it took all eight years -- >> bill: as you heard, he did a good job in his first year, then, he went wild with the income redistribution and strangled the economy by all of the higher taxes and regulations. that was my analysis. the last row to melissa. >> i disagree with that. >> bill: do you think that trump puck, who is a polarizing figure, just like barack obama is a polarizing figure, do you think that trump will bring peoe together more? >> i think it's a challenge. a lot of that depends on the economy, as well. if he truly brings jobs back, he gets families doing better, i think that brings more people together, because most people are focused on their own family and their own community. >> bill: he can improve the job -- >> he has potential to divide further and do more race baiting. it could go either way but i bet on the economy. >> bill: all right, ladies, thank you. bill, last point. trump said on election night he would bring the country together but he has yet to do it since that night. >> he's not president yet, so, there you go. >> bill: i was just going to say that. melissa stole that from me. more as "the factor" moves along the ceiling. the state of california setting itself up to go out had to head with president trump once he's in office. former first lady of san francisco kimberly guilfoyle has some thoughts on nuts. then, nasty racial controversy at the capital. we hope you stay tuned for those reports. i am totally blind. i lost my sight in afghanistan. if you're totally blind, you may also be struggling with non-24. calling 844-844-2424. or visit my24info.com. ♪ >> bill: you may have heard about a painting that has been hanging in the capitol complex in d.c. since last june. it depicts a police officer in uniform as a pig aiming a gun at african-american protesters. again, this is my capitol. congressman duncan hunter, i a republican, took the gun down, physically took it down. but congressman lacy clay, a democrat, had the picture product, and wants to charge hunter with theft. something that will not happen. at this point, the offending pictures up, down, up, down, up, down, depending what minute it is. joining us from washington, lisa boothe and juan williams. is it appropriate in the capitol complex, i believe? >> i don't get is inappropriate. you can have a standard to controversial or inflammatory. but the problem is, would you say the same thing about statues to confederates that lead us to have a civil war? clearly, you want art that an flex passion, feeling -- >> bill: you don't think this is an appropriate? >> not at all. to be when i ask you this question, please answer richard directly. if i commission a painting of black gang members shooting a 9-year-old boy in chicago, is that going to be appropriate to put in the capitol building? >> if you could mention it, probably not. if you asked me, i would say on the same basis that i say that is appropriate, that is appropriate. those are alarming issues. >> bill: a black gang member with a gun shooting a 9-year-old, it's in the capitol. >> this is art that came from a member of congress. >> bill: this guy, lacy clay -- >> he had won in our contest. >> bill: no, no, no. lacy clay picked him, that guy, picked him. it was his contest, clay. come on! it's bogus! he wanted that. he wanted that up! what to say you? >> this is reprehensible and it's irresponsible for representative clay flared i worked on capitol hill, i have walked the hallway where these pictures and pieces of artwork are hung up. it is chosen by the member's office to represent both the member and also, the congressional district. this guy is choosing, to be represented by a picture that depicts a false narrative from ferguson, which we have seen since ferguson and just this past year alone, 56% increase in police -- ambush style police killing of police officers. >> bill: if that picture were displayed somewhere else, would you object to its? >> absolutely. i think it's disgusting. i think what it is -- >> bill: wait, wait, wait. >> sure. >> bill: is of the artist have the freedom under our constitution to display art tha? >> yes, bill. the problem is of the fact that the representative chose this out of many options to represent his office. >> bill: he wanted to insult the police, he wanted to get attention, all that. i'm worried when you say it should be banned. i don't think it should be banned. no, no, no. i want to get back to you on the bogus argument that clay put forth and you parroted about confederate people like robert e lee being displayed in the capitol building. that is history. all right? that is history. we don't have to like all of our historical figures. but robert e lee is a general. he was a pivotal figure in the civil war. so, you put up his statue and you say, this is what robert e lee did. it's not endorsing robert e lee, is not showing him with a gun shooting a 2-year-old, it's not doing any of that. that argument is bogus. >> i disagree with you. >> bill: so come historical figures -- >> i think you are supporting my argument, you are saying, something of historical significance -- by the way, lisa, you said, false narrative. there is no false narrative. do you go ask the minority community in this country -- >> from ferguson? >> he will find out lots of people have lots of problems. >> bill: there is no history in that picture. >> wait a minute. i didn't lisa refer to ferguson and the tensions between police and black people? 's >> bill: it had nothing to do with the police officer as a pig. that is not history! are you kidding? >> that is what some people have called -- >> bill: it doesn't matter, that's not history! >> can i answer? >> bill: that is not history. >> do you think -- >> bill: it doesn't matter. it's the appropriateness of the venue. last word, lisa. >> it's not just that. the way that the artist's is depicting ferguson is absolutely false. there is a false narrative that was driven by the left and the media and it has led to a lot of police deaths across this country and it is reprehensible for this member of congress to pick this painting among many to represent both himself and the congressional office. >> bill: we are talking specifically about ferguson. they are talking more broadly. >> bill: it doesn't matter, this congressman wanted to insult police my capitol. his name is lacy clay if you want to give him a buzz tomorrow, i'm sure he would like to talk to you. lisa, juan, thank you. we will talk with kimberly guilfoyle about the state of california challenging donald trump on a number of issues. that could be. intense. and to gutfeld and mcguirk on your tax money being wasted in incredible ways. those stories after these messages. it's not just a car.. it's your daily retreat. go ahead, spoil yourself. the es and es hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection. i have age-related maculare degeneration, amd, he told me to look at this grid every day. and we came up with a plan to help reduce my risk of progression, including preservision areds 2. my doctor said preservision areds 2 has the exact nutrient formula the national eye institute recommends to help reduce the risk of progression of moderate to advanced amd after 15 years of clinical studies. preservision areds 2. because my eyes are everything. with not food, become food? thankfully at panera, 100% of our food is 100% clean. no artificial preservatives, sweeteners, flavors, or colors. panera. food as it should be. save now when you buy philips sonicare. >> bill: thanks for staying with us. i am fellow riley. the federal government versus the state of california. the showdown is coming. no question, donald trump in the golden state are in a collision course. the state will pay former attorney general eric holder to stop president trump from taking action against sanctuary cities. lieutenant governor gavin newsom says he may file suit against the trump administration if it tries to build a wall between california and mexico. on environmental reasons. governor jerry brown has nominated a far left guy to be the attorney general. xavier. i'm not sure his first name. once married to gavin newsom, who i called gary, kimberly guilfoyle. [laughter] all right. it may be xavier, javier. >> we will settle without periods. when i got misled by somebody who i will beat up later. anyway, you have an interesting viewpoint or vantage point because you were married to newsom when he was the mayor of san francisco, which is the most far left major city in the country. to >> for sure. >> bill: a bout of people who don't live in california, they don't understand why this state has moved so far to the left. do you? >> they really feel that they have a mandate that they will be basically the head of state against -- for the antitrust movement. they really believe these ideologies. i would grow up, i was born and raised in san francisco. i saw what happened there, horrible homeless problems. i worked as a prosecutor, assistant district attorney. this was the top sanctuary city, as you know, with the murder there of kate steinle. to >> bill: there was no remorse for her death. there was a justification, you saw it, we ambushed him, we ran him around at all of that. but again. >> i know, -- >> bill: what is the mentality of people who, despite seeing the homeless destroy their city, leading the league and property crimes, all of that, still refused to say, maybe we are not going in the right direction here? >> they refuse to actually equip themselves with the facts come,h the statistics. as you saw, this is a state that voted very strongly for hillary clinton. what they are not prepared for, they are ill-equipped, a fight that they are going to get. >> bill: who is going to end that? >> president-elect trump and sessions. >> bill: it will be jerry brown against donald trump, essentially. who is going to end my? >> ultimately come , i think the governor, gavin newsom, i think he will win, he will -- he has punch on his podcast, also known as my ex-husband, he has pledged to go against donald trump. he said that the wall will never happen. they have filed an environmental lawsuit. >> bill: does he want open borders? newsom? does he want everyone to come in? >> he doesn't want to have closed borders. he will fight very, very aggressively against it. in addition too many -- >> bill: i'm trying to get into his mindset. if you were here, i would say, mr. newsom, do you support having anyone who wants to walk into the united states? what would he say? yes or no? >> eventually, he would say yes. >> bill: i think he would say yes but and make an excuse. >> i don't think he will make an excuse. he up embraces these policies. he is one of the top surrogates for hillary clinton during this campaign. he is really going to -- >> bill: you say he's the next governor? >> i guarantee he will be the next governor. >> bill: the central part of california on the northern part, not that liberal, once you get away from the coast, they are mixed independent, mixed. but the coast, the coastal cities, san francisco, l.a., all of that southern california, with with the exception of orange county. you say they are true believers, they will never see another point of view, no matter how many policies do not work, they want a left-wing policy, they don't care whether they work boys because they want left-wing policies. i'll give you an example, when i was first lady, we had a program called "care, not cash. we didn't believe in giving people cash to let them use drug abuse. horrible homeless drug problem there. they will not allow you, essentially, to give services, which is what we tried to do, when i was married to gavin, they let couches on fire in front of my house. they rang the bell all hours of the day and night, death threats, only because we were trying to help people. >> bill: you didn't want to give them cash because you knew they would spend the cash on the drugs? you want her to give other forms of assistance where they could help themselves but not by hair when? >> job training, rehabilitation. >> things lit on fire around the house, to the point it wasn't safe to stay there. >> bill: i usually walk away from that mentality when a seat on the street but i wanted to try to get involved and why so many californians think that way. gutfeld and mcguirk on deck. $5 billion of our tax money wasted by our country recently. the boys next. said what they meant? the citi® double cash card does. earn 1% cash back when you buy, and 1% as you pay. double means double. when really, it's scorching. and while some may say the desert is desolate... we prefer secluded. what is the desert? it's absolutely what you need right now. absolutely scottsdale. ♪ >> bill: back in the book segment tonight, what the heck just happened? an amazing report released by senator jeff flake of arizona called "wastebook," porkemon go. it chronicles $5 billion, an amazing display of waste. here now, with the top three each, all right, gutfeld, what is your first run? >> they spent 300 grand trying to answer one thing, what are boys play with more often, transformers are barbies? i'm going to blow your mind here. it turns out they play with transformers. >> bill: why did they want to know what little boys play with, it dolls or the transformers? >> this is all part of the social science thing that is trying to say that boys and girls aren't any different, but they left out boys that don't play with transformers or barbies, boys like me, who just find things on the highway to play with. >> bill: okay. >> like women's shoes, scissors, matches. >> bill: mcguirk, your first one. >> my first one is the ominous music makes people afraid of sharks. >> bill: how much was spent on ms.? >> they spent $3 million. the goal was to positively promote sharks. 2000 viewers was the test, they showed them shark videos and they determined that yes, the ominous music unfairly demonizes the sharks and the uplifting music, i don't know what it was, "the sound of music," it actually made people want to -- >> bill: $3 million for this agency, the government gave them 3 million tax dollars, okay, to find out if sharks are being demonized by music. >> that's right. >> bill: okay. number two. >> they spent 460 grand teaching computers or artificial intelligence to watch television to see how humans think. so, they had computers watch "desperate housewives," or "the office" so they could predict human behavior. i think this is a great idea but they picked the wrong shows. they should have picked "the o'reilly factor," the artificial intelligence would say, not having it. not having it. kimberly guilfoyle, everybody. >> bill: 460,000, so computers could watch the shows and predict what again? what did they want to predict? >> so they can predict human behavior. they should have had them watch "mr. ed," so the computers thought that horses could talk. that would've been hilarious. >> the national institutes of health, $3.4 million to have male hamsters pitted against each other to "study aggression and anxiety in rodents." by the way, they used syrian hamsters, they said they were the most useful in these fights. i know what you are thinking. >> bill: he is banned syrian hamsters. >> why are we allowing syrian hamsters into this country? that ends january 20th. the conclusion is that the more hamster's right, the more they went would not come if they use steroids, they are more aggressive. >> bill: so, they had two hamsters from syria fight each other -- >> at northeastern university. >> bill: perfect. perfect. you can't even wear a sombrero up there but you can have hamsters fighting. and the one on steroids with the kids to the one without steroids? >> that's correct. >> bill: did the steroid one? >> always won. >> bill: last one. >> this, actually think it's well worth it. they spent $88,000 looking at 500 years of climate change data and they saw a slight increase in temperature increases the quality of a fine wine. red wine taste better if the temperature goes up slightly, just slightly. this means that global warming is good, especially if you are a drunk like me. better wine means happier people, which means fewer wars, a better planet. ie, ergo, global warming equals global peace. we win. i love you. >> cheers! i like that. >> bill: 's what is your last one? >> my last run is how to be more popular online, actually. how to be more popular online. one of the first photos containing faces, 38% more likely to receive likes. that is unless you have a face like brian kilmeade, of course. [other factor that increases the number of likes is having a lot. don't be posting pictures of your dead pets. >> bill: so, why does the government wants to know how to be more popular online? cloud where they want to know that? why would they spend money to find that out? >> so, they could burn money, bill. that is the whole idea. >> bill: i know that gutfeld has tax liens against them. it is not as personal. but mcguirk and i pay a lot of taxes. >> i like meeting people online. they don't know who i am. >> bill: >> to counter disinforn campaigns. >> bill: bottom line -- >> i met a woman online. >> i'm glad. we congratulate senator flake, good job, $5 billion on all this nonsense and not one penny should have been spent on it. gentlemen, thank you. and that is it for us tonight because we have a whole bunch of stuff coming up. thanks again for watching. tomorrow on "the factor" rule we will cover donald trump's first press conference in quite a while. right, president obama warming up for his farewell address. the tenant off to tucker carlson, who was standing by in >> tucker: good evening i am tucker carlson, president obama's farewell address will be in chicago. there is other news tonight too. senate democrats went after jeff sessions today, of course, donald trump's pick for attorney general. in a few minutes, president obama will try to explain why his eight years in office have been a lot better than a lot of people seem to remember them. for a game attempt defending the obama legacy. but first, as we await the president, we are joined by fox news chief political anger. >> of hope and change, his explanation of what happened in those eight years. obviously, you will hear a litany of defense of what he believes are his accomplishments but i think you're going to hear a lot about coming together as a country, perhaps some mornings to the president-elect, donald trump. and remember, this is 2,989 days after he del victory speech in grant park, just a short way away from mccormick place, where he is delivering this farewell address in chicago. and he is going to try to say that he made america a better place over eight years. i think you would have a lot of critics out there, especially even in chicago. where there are some who say things didn't get better and the election of donald trump was a repudiation of obama's policies. with a high approval rating, politics has met about 4% tonight. >> tucker: so he wrote this speech himself or at least worked on it closely? if you want to know what obama really thinks, listen tonight. he is going to tell us what he really thinks. no political reasons. what he believes his legacy will be. do you think that is fair? >> i think he is laying the groundwork for his party. this is a democratic party trying to find itself. it is licking its wounds because he has lost under eight years of president obama, there are now fewer governors that are democrats, state legislatures have been obliterated as far as from a democratic point of view and obviously he doesn't have control of the house and the senate as he leaves office. something that he did have control of as he took office. in 2008. you have obamacare and the solution, the repeal and replace it is going to come and all of the regulations that are going to be signed out by donald trump as he takes the office january 20th. >> tucker: he has suggested obliquely that he will continue to speak out on issues in his post-presidency. do you want to tell us more on that? >> we don't know, think that is the biggest question going forward. what does it look like in the post-presidency for president obama who will live in washington, d.c. his kids are still going to go to school there in washington and barring some figure who comes out for the democratic party to lead the way, president obama is probably that figure in the short term. >> tucker: you expect president-elect trump will respond in any way to the address tonight? >> i do, from the news conference tomorrow, i believe it 11:00 a.m. eastern time, you will hear a response. probably directly. that will be president-elect trump's first press conference since election, it will be his first news conference since july, actually. >> tucker: interesting. the biggest issue on the table right now obviously is obamacare. if you could, rate the likelihood of a repeal and replacement of obamacare in the next few months. do you think it is high? >> i think it is high. grandpa went through a detailed plan tonight that president electron has signed on to. i think it is a tough hurdle, they have a lot of plans out there and they they're going te together it started already in the next couple months. >> tucker: it has got to be an awfully bitter thing for the still president obama to watch. >> it is, and that is his signature piece of legislation. you're going to hear a defense tonight, i think.

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cares. that itself was an interesting thing to watch at the time. presidential nominee absents himself from the party platform process. interesting. but what was way more interesting than that, what was riveting and bizarre to watch at the time that we couldn't make heads or tails of at the time was the trump campaign's one exception on the party platform. even hope the they let this other stuff slide, that was very much not in keeping with trump and the campaign, they did decide to get up on their hind legs and fight and intercede aggressively for one specific thing in the platform. one specific part of the republican party platform, and that was a thing about russia. there was a proposed plank for the republican party platform that said ukraine should get help from the united states up to and including lethal weaponry so ukraine could fight off russian incursions. and you know what, the trump campaign let everything else in the platform slide. even stuff that might theoretically have bothered them but that, that ukraine and russia thing, they jumped right up on that and insists that plank only, that one, had to be taken out, that language could not stand and it was weird at the time and there was a lot else going on in presidential politics, it was the conventions, right? but even then as the russia/trump questions continued to percolate and got more acute over time, ultimately trump the candidate did have to answer for what his campaign did with the platform at his convention. >> why did you soften the gop platform on ukraine? >> i wasn't involved in that. honestly -- >> your people were. >> yeah. i was not involved in that. i'd like to -- i'd have to take a look at it but i was not involved? >> do you know what they did? >> they softened it, i heard, but i was not involved. >> i was not involved. in addition to the candidate himself denying having anything to do with it, his campaign manager paul manafort, who had done all that work in ukraine, he also denied having anything to do with it. >> there's been some controversy about something in the republican party platform that essentially changed the republican party's views when it comes to ukraine. how much influence did you have on changing that language, sir? >> i had none. in fact, i didn't hear of it until after our convention was over. >> where did it come from, then. everybody on the platform committee said it came from the trump campaign. if not you, who? >> it absolutely did not from the trump campaign and i don't know who everybody is but i guarantee you it was nobody on the platform. >> so nobody from the trump campaign wanted that change in the platform? >> no one. zero. >> so after the republican convention the candidate himself denies having anything to do with it. his campaign manager paul manafort denies having anything to do with it, denies that neither he nor anyone from the trump campaign had anything do with it. how did it happen? don't know, must have been fairies. now that bizarre non-explanation, those denials, have fallen apart because now a former trump campaign official has 'fessed up about it. he's a former trump campaign official named j.d. gordon and he says as a trump campaign official at the time taking orders from the trump campaign at the time he's the one who did it. he says now that he was the one who interceded in the republican party platform to get this language that would keep russia happy and he says he did it specifically at donald trump's request. >> gordon says he was a part of the effort that was pushed by the trump campaign to put some language in the gop platform that essentially said that the republican party did not adcate for arming the ukrainians in their battle against pro-russian seratists. that was a big issue flaring up at the time of the republican convention. that effort was successful in having that language in the republican party platform. and i asked j.d. gordon, why did you advocate for that language? and he said this is the language donald trump himself wanted and advocated for. >> this is just one thing that happened on the trump campaign. it was weird at the time. we got these denials that seemed implausible about it for months, now it's falling apart. why now? why are people from the trump campaign now admitting that, yeah, they did change that plank in the republican party platform to make it nicer to russia? why are they admitting it now after denying it for months? i don't know. but tonight as i said, this breaking news, politico is reporting that the fbi is on to this now, too because this russian citizen who worked with paul manafort reportedly visited paul manafort while he was running the trump campaign at the time and he reportedly later told people that what he came to the united states for last summer was to get that language obtaining testimony from christopher steele for the inquiry into the trump campaign and ties with russia. adam schiff told us last night that his committee "certainly will want to get to the bottom of the details of that dossier and report what has been substantiated, what hasn't and find out how mr. steele based those conclusions. he told us "if it's an issue of him not wanting to appear, him not wanting to face questions from the whole committee we more than welcome his cooperation in any manner he is comfortable. if it's an issue about whether he is willing to come before the committee, i can say i am more than willing to go to him. i know there are other members of the committee who would join me in that." that's an unusual offer from the top member of the intelligence committee. i will go to you, sir, i will go to a foreign country to get your testimony. stay where you are, we can come to you. this is a guy who thinks he has safety issues. this is a guy who has been in hiding for weeks in fear for his own safety ever since he was revealed as the author of this dossier of alleged russian dirt. the reason i raise the issue of that dossier in conjunction with this new information about the trump campaign now admitting that, yeah, they did change the republican party platform to make it more pro-russian, the reason i raised these two things together, that dossier and finally us getting an explanation on what happened with that ukraine and russia plank and the republican convention, the reason i raised these together is because one of the baseline allegations of that dossier is actually -- it appears to be about that platform change. one of the things it alleges is allegedly a quid pro quo between the trump campaign and russia. "the russian regime has been behind the apparent leak from the democratic national committee to the wikileaks platform. the reason for using wikileaks was plausible deniability. the operation has been conducted with the full knowledge and support of trump and senior members of his campaign team. in return, the trump team has agreed to sideline russian intervention in ukraine as a campaign issue. and again i have to stress that we need to describe this dossier as an unverified dossier of russian allegations against donald trump. but everyday now, everyday i lead my show and i think i'm going to be talking about something else but everyday a new piece of it falls in place and this is just the latest one. in the last couple of weeks and days, even into tonight more pieces of it are falling into place. the trump campaign used to deny that any of its staffers, anyone related to the trump campaign had any contact with any russians during the campaign. well, no, in fact, meetings between trump campaign people and russias have led to the resignation of the national security adviser, that's led to the recusal of the attorney general of the united states. the trump campaign as of last night is not only admitting a trip to russia by one of its official foreign policy advisers during the campaign but as of last night they're now admitting this trip was authorized by the trump campaign at the time he went to moscow. now politico.com is reporting what is basically a direct russian tie to that change in the republican party platform to benefit russia last year. if politico's reporting is accurate, the fbi is looking into a russian national who was previously suspected of ties to the russian security services and they are reportedly looking into his role in what the trump campaignowdmits were its efforts to -- what is it? "sideline russian intervention in ukraine as a campaign issue." to take russian intervention in ukraine out of the republican party platform as an issue. it's everyday another piece of it gets corroborated. so we will all continue to describe this dossier from christopher steele as unfounded and unsupported and that is true when it comes to the dossier's baseline allegation that the trump campaign not only knew about but they actively supported the russian government's attacks on hillary clinton and the russian government's hacking and intervention into our presidential election to benefit trump but even if that is as yet in itself uncorroborated and undocumented, all the supporting details are checking out. even the outrageous ones. it seems like a new one each passing day. now the author of this dossier has surfaced in britain and he's okay. about any u.s. investigation of this matter. seems like a very important question whether or not investigators are going to talk to him, whether they are going to get testimony from the author of this dossier. with each passing day more parts of the dossier get supported by the facts and previous denials by the trump campaign, whether it's about jeff sessions, michael flynn, carter page, about the ukraine platform, whether it's about paul manafort, their previous denials are falling apart. and we are also learning more in dribs and drabs about the law enforcement investigations and counterintelligence investigations that are under way into the trump campaign in russia and we are learning more dribs and drabs everyday about what the intelligence committees in congress might be able to do in their investigations, whether or not they do it. so we're learning more about what happened. we're learning more about what bull pucky the trump campaign denials were on this stuff. we're learning more about these investigations. what we're going to talk about tonight in part is that there is up with other piece of this that is getting clearer each day and it's something jeff sessions has not recused from and the intelligence committees are not thinking about investigating it but it's starting to feel like an urgent matter and that is the question of what happened after the campaign. that's the question of whether russian intervention into u.s. politics into high level top level u.s. politics, whether it stopped during the campaign or whether it is still happening right now inside our government. and that sort of upsetting story is next. various: (shouting) heigh! ho! ( ♪ ) it's off to work we go! woman: on the gulf coast, new exxonmobil projects are expected to create over 45,000 jobs. and each job created by the energy industry supports two others in the community. altogether, the industry supports over 9 million jobs nationwide. these are jobs that natural gas is helping make happen, all while reducing america's emissions. energy lives here. with toothpaste or plain water.an their dentures all while reducing america's emissions. and even though their dentures look clean, in reality they're not. if a denture were to be put under a microscope, we can see all the bacteria that still exists on the denture, and that bacteria multiplies very rapidly. that's why densts recommend cleaning with polident everyday. polident's unique micro clean formula works in just 3 minutes, killing 99.99% of odor causing bacteria. for a cleaner, fresher, brighter denture every day. yesterday at the state department nbc news intrepid veteran reporter andrea mitchell became the personification of pushy persistence trying to get the new secretary of state on the record on anything. >> again, welcome. >> reporter: mr. secretary, china said there will be consequences for the deployment now of anti-missile defenses in south korea. >> thank you. >> reporter: can you respond -- >> thank you. thank you. >> reporter: can you respond to -- >> thank you, we're leaving. >> reporter: mr. secretary, can you respond to the threats from china? >> thank you. thank you. thank you. let's go. thank you. >> reporter: mr. minister, are you sure the trump administration will be strong against vladimir putin. >> thank you, guys, we're leaving the room. thank you. andrea, press are departing the room. let's go. >> reporter: we haven't had time in here. >> i'm sorry, you need to leave. let's go. let's go, guys. >> andrea mitchell is a very nice person but she's obviously dogged at her work and at the end of the clip you can see how frustrated she is after secretary of state rex tillerson has given absolutely no response to any questions after andrea and other reporters were pushed out of the room at the state department by state department staff. it's clear, state department staff know andrea well enough to be on a first name basis with her. they have seen her at the state department for years if not decades but the secretary of state won't say a word. won't say a word. and you see the look on andandre face there. i think part of the reason andrea seems so frustrated is this isn't a one time thing. this keeps happening. this is the second time a few days andrea has been put in this position. ii mr. secretary, can you do your job with the kind of budget cuts the president has proposed? what does it say about the priority of diplomacy in this administration? >> thank you, everyone. >> reporter: do you think you'll have a deputity time soon, sir. >> let's go. thank you, we're done. >> reporter: when do you think you might have a deputy? >> andrea, please, let's go. andrea, come on, guys. >> this way, thank you. >> out, please. out. >> when we first played that tape a few days ago my reaction to it, you might remember, my reaction to it spontaneously was raise your children to be reporters. it's amazing tape of andrea mitchell and how she works and how hard she pushes to get information out of people in power but you know what? in addition to being an interesting thick there to see in terms of what it means to be a reporter and how hard she works, there is something very serious going on there. what andrea mitchell was asking there -- what did she say? "do you think you will have a deputy any time soon? when do you think you will have a deputy? can you do your job with the kind of budget cut this is president has proposed. do you think you'll have a deputy?" you know what, there is no deputy to rex tillerson at the state department. and his public appearances really are just silent tableau vivant of smiling men shaking hands and not answering reporters' questions. that's it. when rex tillerson first arrived at the state department he gave a speech to employees in everybody thought he seemed nice but he hasn't held a press conference or made sustained public remarks of any kind since then and immediately after he introduced himself and said "hey there, hi there" to the state department staff, they immediately started firing all the top people at the state department. particularly the career people who hadn't been there through president obama. they were there through george w. bush before that and clinton before that and george h.w. bush before that and even reagan before that and even carter before that. i mean, as soon as tillerson was brought on board they fired four of the longest standing top career diplomats at the state department who don't turn over with new administration. 150 years worth of experience. when one assistant deputy secretary of state said what an honored the been to be a foreign service for 40 years but now they're telling me i have to go. those are the people they cleared out, people with 20, 30, even 40 years at the state department. all the institutional memory in the building. the people who form the spine of america's foreign service in a non-partisan way. the career people, the core, these have been the headlines, right? trump administration asks top state department officials to leave. or this one, it's a bloodbath at the state department. or this one, state department carries out layoffs under rex tillerson. two more senior diplomats leaving the state department. they emptied out the whole suite of senior foreign service officers as soon as rex tillerson got there. and after that while he was leaving on his first foreign trip they laid off a whole other round of diplomatic officials with decades of experience, the most senior people in the building. those are not obama appointees. these people who have been the institutional memory and the core of the state department for years as presidents come and go. they have cleared them out and are not replacing them and there's not a deputy for rex tillerson at the state department and state department officials are not attending meetings between the president and other foreign officials. he likes to bring his son-inaw instead. and the state department only yesterday rearted its press briefings which have continued daily since the 1950s before they stopped abruptly on the last day of the obama administration. they only restarted yesterday and they're no longer going to be daily. and when the office of management and budget announced the state department is in for a 37% cut in its budget, 37% we haven't heard a peep from the secretary of state about that. apparently 37% cut won't be a problem. looking at that thing happening in washington, turn the telescope around and look through the other side. look through the other side in terms of what is going on in this part of washington. if you're russia, whether or not you have a personal preference about who you want to be president of the united states, if you're russia, what you want is an end to the unipolar world where the united states leads the west and you're not part of that. if you're russia especially under vladimir putin you have no desire to be part of a western alliance of free count reis, in part because you don't think it's in your interest to be a free country and you don't want to be part of something led by someone else. once upon a time around the fall of the soviet union there was a brief hope russia might end up being a member of nato. yeah, no. under vladimir putin instead russia has decided not just to continue to define nato as its great enny the world but to set off a hooptie knockoff. russia wants the united states the world. they love being seen as a competing military power to the united states even though the russian military is in no way comparable to the mesh military other than when it comes to nuclear weapons. if you're russia, you like being seen as a military power. you don't have an issue with the united states and russia being seen as competing military powers. if you're russia, what you hate about the united states, what you hate about the u.s. government, if you want to find a specific bull's-eye for it, it's the u.s. state department. because the u.s. state department isn't military force. the u.s. state department is mesh leadership in the world. the u.s. state department organizes the world to support international organizations, to support the post war stable world that america leads. the u.s. state department is in charge of soft power, supporting american led interests with countries around the world. the u.s. state department does support dissidents in russia and critical media in russia. the u.s. state department calls out russian elections as hillary clinton did in 2011, calls out russian elections as neither free nor fair when there's evidence that russian elections are neither free nor fair. the one existential threat vladimir putin fears in his own country after 17 years in power, the one existential threat he fears is a revolution by his own people. an arab spring type uprising by russians against him and when there have been big protest movements in russia that have threatened to rise to that level putin has raged against the u.s. state department for supporting, no, for orchestrating those protesters. if russia did run a massive intelligence operation to affect the outcome of the u.s. presidential election, do we think they'd see that as it its own reward? that's enough? okay, now we're done? or once you've done that is it time the reap the benefits of that? donald trump never met rex tillerson, the ceo of exxon, before the psidential election. rex tillerson absolutely had met vladimir putin before the presidential election. he was considered to be the u.s. citizen closer to vladimir putin than any other. he received the order of friendship from vladimir putin personally, the highest civilian award that russia gives to non-russian citizens. somehow rex tillerson ended up as the u.s. secretary of state under donald trump who he'd never met. and under rex tillerson, the u.s. state department putin's greatest nemesis in the u.s. government, under rex tillerson, the u.s. state department has kind of disappeared. when the state department put out its annual human rights report like it does every year, criticizing russia like it does every year, this year there was no public rollout. the secretary of state didn't even announce it, they did no public events, why stress the issue. that is usually the highest high profile thing the u.s. state department does all year. this year they just press released it. don't say a word. the more we learn about the traump campaign and ties to the russian government, the more clear it gets that american investigations into that, they need to be aggressive and independent but i want to propose that it is also becoming clear that russia didn't intervene in our election because they like the cut of donald trump's jib. the more we learn about it, it doesn't seem like it was personal. it seems like it was to get specific stuff out of the united states. actions by u.s. political figures to benefit russia. things like the republican party taking out of its platform that ukraine should get lethal weapons to fight russia and fight off those russian incursions. they wanted change. they wanted change by u.s. political actors to benefit russia. they wanted actions taken to benefit russia and also we have to ask whether they wanted actions by u.s. political figures to weaken the parts of america that most annoy and most undermine vladimir putin. is rex tillerson secretary of state because russia needed somebody to stand by as secretary of state while the state department was hollowed out, disappeared, and muted? 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"putin motivated by fear and hatred of hillary clinton." and you know, like many things in that dossier that has started to seem less nuts over time. when the u.s. intelligence committee released its report the u.s. intelligence agency said it, too "russia's goals were to undermine faith in the democratic process, to denigrate secretary clinton and to harm her electability and her potential presidency." the dossier, the christopher steel dossier, it alleged there were repeated contacts between members of the trump campaign and russia officials before the election. the trump administration denied that aggressively for months but we know that to be true. the dossier mentioned a meeting between trump foreign policy adviser carter page and a senior russian official in july of last year. this week the trump campaign admitted it happened but that the trip was sanctioned by the campaign at the time. last night we reported on this senior russian diplomat, mikail kalugin who was working at the russian embassy in washington, d.c. he's accused of being the pay master who handled the money side of russia's efforts to hack the election. the dossier reports that in august he was withdrawn back to moscow after he became the target of u.s. suspicion. well, in fact, that diplomat really did get called home to moscow and now we know, based on reporting from mcclatchy, that when he did get recalled to moscow, he was under suspicion by u.s. authorities for his potential role in the russian attack on the election. so this crazy-sounding dossier keeps coming back. now after two months spent underground its author, christopher steele, is back. last night on this show the top democrat on house intelligence made news. he said he was determined his intelligence committee should talk to christopher steele, should talk to the man who compiled this dossier. we'll have more on that in a second. but you know admittedly, right, some of this, the consequence is done, right? admittedly it's done. i mean, you know what hillary clinton is doing tonight? she's posted a snapchat video. she got a new hair cut. she's posting a snapchat video for women's day, international women's day saying every issue is a women's issue so stand up and resist and run for office. she's on snapchat, meanwhile, donald tru is president and apparently tonight he just appointed his ambassador to russia. his nominee will be jon huntsman of utah. you know, in 2012, donald trump derided jon huntsman's own presidential ambitions saying that as ambassador to china jon huntsman "gave away our country" to them. well, now apparently that's just the guy to give away our country again. this time to putin, though, this time the russia the russia connection is about the election. it's about what happened to our country with this last presidential election. i recognize the election is done, but it's also about who is running our government now and with what expectations and what debt and i'm pleased to say that one of the young hungry investigators who is very aggressively on this is our guest next from washington. stay with us. and now, i help people find discounts, like paperless, multi-car, and safe driver, that help them save on their car insurance. any questions? -yeah. -how do you go to the bathroom? great. any insurance-related questions? -mm-hmm. -do you have a girlfriend? uh, i'm actually focusing on my career right now, saving people nearly $600 when they switch, so... where's your belly button? 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if constituents have concerns about links between russia and our new president, this is a public service. congressman swallwell is an active investigation of the house. he sits on the house intelligence committee, he's the top democrat on the subcommittee that deals with the cia and he joins us from washington. good to have you with us tonight, sir. thank you for being here. >> thank you and greetings from castro valley high school trojans who are at the heart of my congressional district in the east bay. >> as a three letter athlete from the castro valley high school trojans athletic department, i am very embarrassed by you bringing that up. but thank you. let me ask about your decision to post this sort of guide for your constituents. you've posted a lot of connect-the-dots information about this russia investigation. >> a lot of work on this issue is classified. i wanted to let my constituents know that russia is not our friend. a lot of young people think they're just a cold war adversaries but we posted a lot of atrocities in syria and ukraine. then we walked through the trump-russia ties which are growing everyday. from there we point out the different changes in positions we've seen from trump officials from jeff sessions to the platform committee's changes and the president himself and then, of course, we point out the interference campaign russia ran and lead everyone to the independent commission that i and elijah cummings for and every democrat has supported in congress. we wanted to walk them through so they understand bit by bit what the evidence is in this case so you have called, as you mentioned, for an independent commission. a 9/11 style commission to make it out of the partisan-controlled committee process and to investigate this as a non-partisan independent thing. i think my take on this increasingly and as far as i can tell from feedback from my viewers, people who i talk to, i think a pretty widespread feeling about this investigation is that if it is conducted by the justice department, which is run by trump campaign official jeff sessions, if it is run by the intelligence committees which are run by two trump campaign officials in richard burr and your chairman in the house, there's not much confidence that those investigations will be both aggressive and independent that said, nobody seems to be biting on the republican side about your idea of for independent commission. should we be worried these won't be independent investigations? >> i'm worried because the trump team and many of my colleagues failed to show impartiality on this issue. as each day goes by we know russia is sharpening their knives. that's a finding in the intelligence report and we know other adversaries with similar capabilities will look at what is the united states going to do? i have to give credit to one republican, walter jones, he's joined our call for an independent commission and he's put country before party before. he was the first one to speak out against the iraq war. >> one of the things i'm starting to feel like is going to become a further avenue of investigation is whether or not if there was quid pro quo between the trump campaign and the russian government. if there was, in fact, collusion or cooperation, if they knowingly interacted with russian officials who were attacking our election in this way they must have promised something, they must have offered something. there must have been a thank you they planned to deliver and that may not have been during the campaign. it may have been something they plan to deliver during the administration. is it your understanding that the intelligence investigations would extend to encompass what's going on now in the administration? whether any of those favors might be being paid back in the way the u.s. government is being run now by president trump? >> it has to and it has to look at what the consideration may have been because all the dots here in this investigation continue to connect and the biggest question, of course, is were any of these contacts or ties that the trump team had with russia, were they working with russia as they ran the interference campaign and now what we're looking at is whether u.s. policy toward russia is also changing. that would be pretty powerful evidence that they were working with russia and that russia is now getting something in return. congressman eric swalwell, member of the house eric swalwel man who represents the town where i grew up, which is just a coincidence. sir, thank you very much for being here. i really appreciate it. >> thank you, rachel. >> all right. we'll be right back. stay with us. 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than that. kim jong un has departed from his grandfather and his father, who wanted nuclear weapons to preserve the regime. kim jong un has come to a different calculation. therefore, his strategy is different. he believes the only way to preserve the regime -- there's only one country that would change it. the united states. the only way to stop the united states from doing that -- he's paranoid about the united states -- you have to hold the american people at risk. that's why we have this accelerated program of ballistic missile development and intercontinental ballistic missiles that have the capability to deliver nuclear warhead. furthermore, he strategizes this way, once he achieves that capability -- in his mind -- the united states will acquiesce and accept that capability much as the united states accepted the development of nuclear weapons h as the united states 40 years ago except to china developing it's unfortunate this rhetoric is going back -- i think we should stay out of the rhetoric business with north korea and stay measured in terms of what our response is. >> dana: >> dana: greg gutfeld. >> greg: hey, general. i don't know, this is the first time i've ever seen a western leader respond to north korea using their actual language. i wonder if this is another way of president trump negotiating from a very powerful point of view. one that they understand, using words like -- but are easily translatable -- like fire and fury. if they strike first, is completely over for them. if we do nothing, theoretically, nothing happens. am i right? >> that certainly -- that's the equation people want to believe. the problem we have is because of the kind of regime that north korea has, we cannot treat north korea the way we treat other great power competitions. namely the soviet union in the past and now russia and also china, who possess significant amount of nuclear rise icbms. the north korean regime, we don't believe and i don't know anybody that does except people on the far left, that you can use mutually assured destruction as the determinants for north korea ever using those weapons against the united states. we don't believe that. what we want to happen is that they don't get the capability and that's the path we are heading on. the path to them not having this capability, nuclear rise icbms -- it's china. we are on that path but we are not close to getting where we need to be. we are on a collision course with china. you are going to see us get really tough with china because i don't think china will behave necessarily in a way that ambassador haley wants them to behave. i think they are going to come up short and we are going to have to really go after china and their interest with korea but also their interest in the region. we will have to put significant geopolitical and economic pressure on china. >> dana: jesse watters. >> jesse: general, it seems like there are a few options here. united states either accepts a nuclear rise to north korea and is somewhat like the soviet union where you live under that blackmail scenario. or, our defensive capabilities, the subs. that just obliterates them and a huge crisis. or third option, a coup or an assassination attempt. what you think the chances are of a targeted assassination attempt, a decapitation strategy in north korea? >> there is a possibility of that happening. that would be something that was engineered by the chinese. they want to change out the leadership, thinking that the leadership is not responding to them. listen, this is what we've got to recognize. north korea has nuclear weapons because the chinese wanted them to have nuclear weapons. they wanted them to be the dominant power on the peninsula. north korea has intercontinental ballistic missiles that looked remarkably similar to the chinese. portable missiles. i bet anything if we went up and pulled off the label, we would see "made in china" during those parades. yet understand how close these countries are. the intellectual property they are using is chinese. china has their hands all over this thing. at the path through this has got to be through china. there's a possibility, because of the pressure that china will start to put on north korea, if they get resistance, that would lead them to make the regime change. in other words, assassinate them and put somebody else in his plated that is complicit and would respond to their guidance. that's still a reasonable option that could be down the road. >> dana: richard fowler. >> talking about those delivery systems, what options do we have with destroying those delivery systems? our air force to actually destroy so they can use the warheads? >> the best way to deal with the delivery system is to destroy it before it lifts the missile off the launch pad. that way are guaranteed the destruction of that capability. kim jong un is no fool and what he has said to us is if anyone conducts an unprovoked attack, it's a war on the peninsula. i will conduct an immediate invasion of south korea with every rocket and missile i have and also nuclear weapons. that is the threat that he is holding over us to prevent us from exercising that kind of a military action. that's offensive a new terror. the rest of our military action is dealing with a delivered system, defensive. should the system down -- shoot it when it's up in space. using the ground-based midcourse missiles, 44 of them that are in alaska and also in california. that's not an option we want have to use because that's a system that's heading towards some population center in the united states and we are totally dependent on a bullet killing a bullet in thin air. we have capability to do it but we also have missed 50%-60% of the time with the system i am describing right now. >> dana: their moms and dads that are trying to explain this to their kids tonight. kids that did not grow up in cold war. minus a couple here. we were used to this idea that this is new to them and the anxiety is really high, there was a cbs poll tonight that says 72% of americans are actually concerned and starting to get scared. what would you advise them tonight, with talking to their kids and calm the situation down? >> here are some things we should take solace with. president trump, although he is inexperienced with foreign policy and national security, he has great instincts about it and in intuitive sense. i know that from personal conversations. secondly, he has one of the best national security teams wrapped around him that this country has ever had. steady, calm, measured people that have been in and out of crisis all their adult lives. this is good news for us. i believe that we will avoid war with north korea. because we are going to take the action necessary with china to force them into a position that will create change. it's the only option that makes any sense and once china understands that, then we are going to make some real progress with them. i was watching on a previous show on fox, by the way, fox has got this story absolutely 100% correct. by comparison to other channels. i asked one of our senior guys what is the percentage of going to war? 50%-70%. come on, this is a crisis. it's dangerous but we've got study people here who know what they are doing. >> dana: i'm glad i asked the question. another crisis from the trump administration ahead. the opioid epidemic. at the president said we will win the battle to save american lives from addictive drugs. that's next. ♪ liberty mutual stood with me when this guy got a flat tire in the middle of the night. hold on dad... liberty did what? 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>> richard: big pharma is a big problem here. a couple things have to happen. we know that prevention is just part of it but you've got a deal with those individuals that are already addicted to opioids. the first thing you've got to do and i am happy the president is dealing with this but the first thing that has to happen is some sort of program, people that are already owns heroin -- a needle exchange. people that are using dirty needles, intravenous drug use, hiv/aids. there should be needle change across the country. dr. adams who is now in the queue to be appointed to surgeon general -- i hope the president will give him the latitude of surgeon general to get the job done. talking about how doctors can be part of the solution by urging patients to bring their prescription drugs back. when you have opioids prescribed to you and you have 20 percocets under your bed, you bring them back to the doctor's office instead of keeping them in her house. the third thing is finding alternatives to opioids. instead of prescribing opioids, maybe we should talk about how we legalize marijuana in the used to treat pain. it's not addictive -- as opioids are. going after big pharma. >> kimberly: you know people are addicted to marijuana. >> richard: is not as addictive as opioids. >> dana: people going after big pharma all the time -- i don't think it's necessary the right one. i understand the state of new hampshire, they are the ones that created the oxycontin but doctors -- they swear an oath. >> richard: doctors are part of the problem. >> dana: i'm disagreeing with you. obviously there are some bad doctors but attorney general jeff sessions just did that whole prosecution against not only doctors but some insurance companies they were sulking money from the federal government. but you can go after big pharma but then you are not going to get the alternative. this afternoon on social report, this program is using different types of medicines like lidocaine patches that would go directly on broken ribs instead of providing opioids. if you just want to target big pharma, you will get all tied up. you will be able to treat any actual people. >> richard: i hear that, dana. the point i am making is that when i had four wisdom teeth removed, they gave me 45 percocets. you don't need 45 percocets. >> kimberly: where are they now? >> richard: i got rid of them. i don't need 45 percocets. >> dana: doctors are taught to treat people's pain. what are you going to do? i understand there's a briefing, calling for a national state of emergency? what is that turn into? governor huckabee said actually, let the states decide. sometimes the best solution is actually in and initiative. go back to those places. i think that be a good thing. >> jesse: i'm going to play greg gutfeld. what you do about the opioid crisis? >> greg: we have to address the fact that everything we have said has been said about every drug since the invention of drugs. the fact is, people up or use this drug because the drug is effective. people don't sit around and do flintstone vitamins all day. they do this because it feels good and life is hard. life is painful. people have a right to their oblivion. people have a right to relieve pain. the one thing we don't talk about -- we are forgetting that there are people who need these drugs. people are in pain. millions of people are in pain. i don't know how many, 20,000 people die every year. 88,000 people die from alcohol abuse and we don't do that story. we do this story because the flavor of the month. there are people that are definitely in trouble and that need help. the fact is, it's because this thing is so powerful and so effective that it makes you question your survival mechanism. it affects your breathing, you don't wake up. it's so good that you just keep doing it. you have to figure out how to manage this. expecting somebody to turn their drugs and when they are that good -- forget about it. i wouldn't. >> dana: >> kimberly: friends au for them. >> greg: who would ever do that? if we are okay with the risks of firearms, the risks of alcohol but suddenly, we are not okay with the risk of of something that helps millions of people. we should be addressing the balance, while reducing the risk. you have helmets for bicycles, seat belts for cars, we have to know how to effectively maintain the use of this drug while preventing the overdoses. they are overdoses but millions of people that are watching right now that use this drug. >> kimberly: since 1999, the amount of overdoses of opioids has quadrupled. >> greg: they've gone up. give them something better. what are you going to give somebody in pain better than that? hugs? i don't think so. i think you can use both. >> richard: okay. >> greg: this is a good question. the psychological and physical pain overlaps. the same part of the brain. people want to admit that opioids are not just treating physical pain. they are treating depression. a lot of people are taking this drug for depression and it's more effective than antidepressants and we don't want to admit that. if we formulated the drugs people could use it and deal with their psychological pain, you might have a real change in the way people live their lives. >> richard: i'm talking about therapy. there's nothing wrong with therapy, folks. i have a therapist. there's nothing wrong with it. >> jesse: the meeting between bill clinton and loretta lynch. concrete proof. the evidence, ahead. ♪ 'saved money on motorcycle insurance with geico. goin' up the country. later, gary' i have a motorcycle! wonderful. ♪ ♪ i'm goin' up the country, baby don't you wanna go? 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"the new york times" described the public affairs director -- he had been pressed into service to write about it. the tone is of an apologetic teacher who doesn't like giving the tension but does because others do. the doj said they aren't interested in this story, even if fox -- evil fox -- runs with it. it's like they are saying they are still on your side, unlike fnc who still thinks the story mean something. this doesn't mind-blowing at all. they did the story anyway. it gives you a peek into the mindset of people who don't just write these stories but shape the agenda. they try to persuade viewers, like benghazi and the irs scandal like playing up others like russia, or in russia, or russia. they aren't presenters of news but curators. manipulating the significance of a story by controlling its exposure. the fact is, everyone play down the tarmac story in order to help hillary. the good news, it didn't work. >> a clear example of media bia. am i right? >> i disagree. >> than i am out of here! >> greg: the only way to win an argument is when i leave. >> dana: maybe it was the abc producer saying it. of course, we do this here. every news station had an assignment editor. deciding what to cover. if you look at what a couple news reporter said, reporters always do this. like 10:00 p.m. on a saturday, i am so sorry, my editors are really frustrating me. as a way for them to prevent themselves from being yelled at. >> greg: they knew you were home. >> dana: all. probably. >> greg: i couldn't resist. >> dana: they always apologize for bothering people. and lead to the semirecusal of loretta lynch. >> greg: this story was bigger than watergate. >> jesse: yeah, but they can cover it. the media bias isn't about what they report, it's about what they don't report. usually if the covers for republican scandals but they play up democratic scandals -- if this happened in a vacuum, that's fine. at the wikileaks shows they collude with democrats all the time. these reporters were sending up stories for democrat politicians to edit before they went to be published. we know their whole industry did that and they were exposed for it. >> dana: i'm talking about -- the c block. >> jesse: i'm talking about it in a broader perspective. so that the people can understand it at home. why when reporters are asked about this correspondence, the fbi said there was no emails about it. it turns out, there were hundreds. it was just an innocent meeting, i did it generate hundreds of pages of email correspondence? if it's just a casual unscheduled meeting, why did the security details of lynch and bill clinton coordinate the meeting? why did loretta lynch use an alias email address when she's talking about generating talking points? and told congress that she never used an alias email address? >> kimberly: why did she only have one and eric holder had four? >> dana: they all did it. >> jesse: the fbi agent told people that witnessed the meeting not to take any pictures and not to record. why did bill clinton wait on the tarmac for lynch's plane to come in and then poured the plane? he said they talked about golf. does loretta lynch play golf? there's no record of him playing in phoenix that day, it was 108 degrees. >> dana: you need a chalkboard to write everything down. >> richard: quite a fishing expedition, jesse. >> jesse: i just got a big one. >> greg: would reporters be apologetic if they were talking about russia? i don't know. i think their enthusiasm would take over. >> richard: is a nothing fish. >> jesse: you can't use that phrase, nothing burger. >> richard: i said nothing fish. >> jesse: to close. >> richard: the journalist said i'm being dragged to cover this because i usually cover the white house and the doj reporter is not in. i'm being forced to cover this because i don't cover this assignment. i'm filling in for somebody. like i'm filling in today. just saying. the point i'm making -- all of these organizations covered this ad nauseam him. wall-to-wall coverage about this tarmac meeting. let's not forget that everybody covered comey's press conferences, where he cleared clay clinton and when he said we are checking emails that almost cost her the election. when he said oh, we found all these other emails other emails. at >> kimberly: we have to cover it. >> richard: the media didn't cover it up. they covered it. >> greg: we know for a fact that they did not want to do the story because it wasn't something that fit into their narrative. >> kimberly: absolutely. it's not so shocking because this is what we saw during the obama administration and remembering when ben rhodes was laughing and blocking the media about how gullible they were? calling them useful fools? wow. what a way to bum your day when someone calls you that. >> greg: i'm used to that. >> kimberly: you are charming, at least. this is no surprise to me. they would absolutely rather cover an end crossing the street than anything that would be detrimental 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tuned to fox news for development as they come in. also developing tonight, two psychologist, the enhanced interrogation program post 9/11 are headed for trial next month. the aclu is suing dr. james mitchell and bruce jetson. one who died in custody, the suit claims the men had an extreme mental torture program for the agency. mitchell once interrogated the mastermind of 9/11 and earlier this year, he maintained she and jetson will be cleared if the case went to trial. >> those things that were done by the cia and the immediate aftermath of the 9/11 attacks were judged not one time but four or five times by the department of justice to be legal. i never heard two of these people who are suing me. until the lawsuits showed up in 2015. >> kimberly: dana, you have some strong feelings about this. >> dana: he doesn't know the people that are prosecuting on their behalf. i find the aclu defending them is shameful. this is definitely a left-wing attack on these two men. they were public servants and asked by the government to do something very difficult. none of us would want to do that but they did. i know and i am confident that their actions saved lives. especially that one interrogation. if this was a criminal case, i would recommend the president to issue a pardon. it's not, it's a civil case. that's probably why they did it this way. they cannot bring a criminal case against these guys. i think the president should comment on this. i think it merits his attention. i think you should offer them his support. to build goodwill he needs with the intel community. it would show people like the aclu that we are going to stand behind our men and women in uniform and the intelligence community when they need to do the very necessary things they do to protect us from terrorist. >> kimberly: absolutely. they didn't do anything illegal. they were doing their jobs. it's an excellent point, dana. the president should stand up on their behalf. do a tweet, make a public statement. do something to show his support. in regard to the service they did for their country. >> greg: one of the problems is that people don't know how to form the war on terror. they act like when you're fighting the war on terror, you are fighting something like childhood obesity. fighting terror requires different rules and fighting other things. terror actually wins if you follow traditional rules. they expect you as a civilization not to do the thing that might actually win. liberals on the left will tell you that if you torture, you sacrifice the values that your country is based on, to which i would say "shut up." trying to save hundreds of thousands of lives is of value. if that requires doing some things that don't follow the rules -- i mean, there is no normal protocol when you are fighting demons. we have to understand that and deal with it realistically. these guys were charged with doing something that they could go to jail for, maybe. they still go and did it and so would you if you knew that somebody's kid's life was on the line. >> kimberly: absolutely. it jesse. >> jesse: these psychologists are patriots and the aclu make me sick. leon panetta, republican and democratic both have said that it enhanced led to intelligence that led to the assault on the bin laden compound. it also broke up terror cells and preventative mass casualty attacks and also enabled us to gain knowledge of the infrastructure, network, and financing of the al qaeda network. this is not you hammering a nail into someone's hand or breaking bones like they do in many other countries. water boarded. jose rodriguez, who ran the cia's counterterrorism center for about three years after 9/11 said it's not ports torture when you are making someone feel pain so they have to scream out what they know in order to stop the pain. this was in order to change their behavior and make them more compliant. to give them a sense of hopelessness and despair so in order to make it stop, they will then squeal. obama carved out an exemption when he banned enhanced interrogation. he said we are going to ban it but if there is a ticking time on situation, i reserve the right to water board someone. it can't be that bad, given that obama was going to do it. >> kimberly: that establishes the veracity of it. it works if he still carved out an option to do it when there was exigent circumstances. richard. >> richard: i don't agree with enhanced interrogation but you changed my mind on this particular case, dana. he didn't know the individual. that's what changed my mind on this particular case. i don't agree with enhanced interrogation because i believe in article three of the geneva convention that says torture and inhumane treatment -- coast before they are not covered over the geneva convention. >> richard: i believe as americans, i don't care what it is, the ideal that we can't change who we are because of terrorists and we can't cower to terror -- >> jesse: max before you are not cowering when you -- >> richard: we have to continue being who we are. >> jesse: it could have been a lot a lot worse. it's be to wait a minute. >> jesse: sleep deprivation? >> richard: our judeo-christian values have to continue to persist no matter what happens to our country, period. >> greg: . -- >> richard: that's not torture, waterboarding, breaking people's bones to get something out of somebody. but dana's argument changed my opinion on this particular case. >> kimberly: bill maher -- making a mockery of a 9-year-old who supports president trump. the outrage is ahead. ♪ control just about anything with an app. your son is turning on all the lights again! you can do the same with your car insurance with the esurance mobile app. esurance. click or call. atmore than one flavor, oruch texture, or color.ing. a good clean salad is so much more than green. and with panera catering, more for your event. panera. food as it should be. with toothpaste or plain water. and even though 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no news. that's as good video. look at this dog licking a stick. >> dana: is not a meme? >> kimberly: i don't get it. >> dana: kimberly. >> kimberly: i actually have one that's good. country music star glen campbell has died at the age of 81 after a long and courageous battle with alzheimer's. his family announced with the heaviest of hearts, grandfather and father, legendary singer and guitarist -- glen campbell. at the age of 81. his battle with alzheimer's. he is a legend behind the hits "wichita lineman" and "by the time i get to phoenix." his final studio album, he was diagnosed with alzheimer's six years ago. he sold more than 45 million records. 75 chart hits. "rhinestone cowboy" and "southern nights." >> dana: that's a great song. let's play that tomorrow. richard. what's her name? richard. sorry, richard! and >> richard: both my parents are jamaican, that makes me a jamaican american. this past sunday, we joined with millions across the world celebrating 55 years of independence. >> kimberly: . >> richard: the most notable jamaican, the fastest man in the world -- >> jesse: at the americans just beat him, though. sorry about that. >> richard: naomi campbell, the supermodel. and at the legendary reggae artist, bob marley. happy independence day, jamaica. >> dana: jamaican my day by being here, richard. >> kimberly: that was fun. >> dana: anyone else have anything to say? >> jesse: waters world, saturday, a big show the saturday night. >> greg: he beat me by 3,000 people. >> kimberly: jesse watters

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you seem to even be enjoying it. >> juan: when he's doing the thing like you want to have my daughter? how about my cousin? that's what goes on. >> greg: it you have to understand, being critical of him during the primary, running against people -- until you realize he's not a politician. he's a performer. a performer at heart and when he gets up in the audience, when you hear the jokes, when you hear the fact that he used expletives, we realize he's not like other people. he is a performer, he is don rickles, not just donald trump. >> kimberly: trump speaks tonight. coming right up. e ♪ polident's unique micro clean formula works in just 3 minutes, killing 99.99% of odor causing bacteria.

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