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karen fáfreedmant( served as th chief assistantçó district attorney in the manha(ép d.a.s office.w3 both joined me now. michael cohen testified that trump had a lengthy relationship. have a listen. >> i was involvedñr in several these catch-and-killçó episodes. these catch-and-killt( scenario existed between david pecker and mr. trump along before i starte1 working for him in 2007. >> karen, explainxd us to the significance of david pecker coming back to testify to the g...

>> tim, i want to askxd you abo david pecker,ñi but given what karen just said, i have to ask if donald trump is getting arrested this week after his false claim of being arrested last week, if hes getting indicted this week, you know thd man, youve been in legal proceedings with the man, what now? >> well, i think hese1 deeply afraid. everything -- i thinkñr theres two things motivating what hes doings7■ rightñi now. every donald trump action can either be explained through a self-preserva...

Going after,jf he mentionedt( violence. trumps thr% új againstfá ñrbra image, the degenerate t(u$ and hes been saying over thelp las seven to ten days, is t( ú illegal? can you call thatñi incitement? is it just free speech? >>fá so,jf a lot of what he sayd free speech, bu,d when he did that, when he held the baseball bat to alvin braggs head, next to each other, v># he called -- within t(hours, !u■also, talkedt d9á! will be death a the streets, to me, that went from speech to conduct, ...