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lawyers can get into that if if that were to come up but the thing that all of those three categories of evidence but ellie described having common is they all concern his honesty, his truthfulness is reliability, right? the defamation is about him lying about e. jean carroll, the civil fraud cases about him lying about his financial assets, the frivolous hillary clinton lawsuit is about him being reckless with regard to the truth. all of those things, i do think would bear on a defendant's credibility if they took the stand if he takes the stand, do you think the judge will allow all that to come up? >> i think most, if not all, really very interesting, kristen, or why do you think trump is so insistent on testifying, taking the stand, even though his lawyers probably you're telling him don't do i'm not sure that he says early so insistent on taking the stand. >> i think he's so insistent on saying that he might take the stand and donald trump wants to control the media narrative. and if he continues to say that he might take the stand, there will be a whole will he won't he back-and-forth? i will remind you what this is not the first time that he said he's going to take the stand only to later changes mind say that his lawyers talked him out of it.