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continue. >> but i think we also have to say biden so-called pressure on it, then you will clearly it's not had much of an effect because he keeps on defining it because biden refuses to put any red lines are product, natalie. yeah. yeah. >> you mentioned the cycle and it's true i was just talking about this with cedric leighton. i mean, israel says it's retaliating for iran's launch of missiles and drones, which iran says was retaliation for israel bombing its embassy compound in damascus a few days before that, the question is, where does that retaliation stop? and will it's dark before things really get out of hand? >> well, again, if the iranians down play this and then treat it as something that does not deserve to be responded to. >> an an open, escalatory cycle will end the conflict between iran and israel will continue. >> unfortunately, but it would likely go back into the shadows where it once before there's fin, a shadow war going on between the two of them are

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