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president can be immuned from prosecution even for ordering a murder. >> a president who ordered seal team six to assassinate a political rival who was not impeached would be subject to criminal prosecution. >> if you were convicted first. >> so your answer is? >> my answer is qualified yes. >> and just let sink in. an argument that would let a pr get away with murder. if that is up. joining me now is the former prosecutor who is an nbc legal analyst and host of the justice matters podcast. also with me, mark joseph stern, senior writer for slate. glen, mark, thank you both for being here. mark, you're here at the table, so we'll start with you. you were initially skeptical of the manhattan district attorney's case, but you have come around. what's changed her mind about the importance of this trial? >> well, you know, over the