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in new york to do these kinds of bonds but wanted to do trump a faber. the guy's name is hankie, which is funny because we're talking about hankie painky. >> oh, lord, dave. it's not even 6:00 a.m. >> sorry, ali. there's a former judge, retired judge barbara jones. he gave her extra jurisdiction, oversight to look at who's paying the pond and where's the money coming from. the public should get more information about mr. hankie and this bond, who gets paid by donald trump, who actually works for the people. >> there's that case. i want to turn to the other case we're seeing movement in and have been watching closely, trump's hush money criminal