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solidarity with my palestinian brothers and sisters they would say to me. they would just refer to me to al jazeera if i want more information. i remember one notable time there were a couple of students selling them and i asked them what's the symbolism of it for palestinian people? and they had nothing to say. >> it is so sad and ricky you left nyu and said this experience at columbia is what left this kind of education. >> i can now sniff the foundation on the institutional level a while ago at nyu and i thought there was a problem with radicalization festering under the surface and i think post october 7th has been a wake-up call for people who haven't been on campus, this is absolutely out of control and students are such extremists at this point. >> martha: we have to go but put those professors on the wall on the way out of here because these professors teaching the