“Nobody rides life on a high,” Michelle Obama said recently during an appearance on the The Late Show with Stephen Colbert. “And I think it’s important for young people to know that… No, you’re not going to feel great all the time and there are moments in all our lives—particularly in the middle of a pandemic and racial unrest—you’re going to feel a kind of way about it, so give yourself a break.” In August last year, the former first lady opened up about experiencing low-grade depression on The Michelle Obama Podcast. “It’s turning off the noise that is upsetting, you know, knowing that I can’t keep reading all the feeds that are fuelling my anxiety and taking a break from it,” she continued, adding she used a similar coping method while she was living in the White House. Going for walks, exercising and being surrounded by friends and family are all things that make her feel good, too, she said.