Transcripts For ALJAZ The Stream 2018 Ep 24 20180209 : vima

Transcripts For ALJAZ The Stream 2018 Ep 24 20180209

A job today those are the latest headlines from us here at aljazeera coming up next is the story. Facing realities growing up when did you realize that you were living in a special place the socalled secret city getting to the heart of the matter while you activist to live in jail just because she expressed herself hear their story on talk to aljazeera at this time. For me ok i really could be protests politically motivated arrests and a state of emergency in the mall so what does it mean for the countrys future this show really has a community buzzing on twitter and if youre joining us live on you can join the conversation as well and you to be in the street. A political crisis is unfolding in the mood just this week president abdullah i mean declared a state of emergency the situation escalated in part because of a standoff between president you mean and the Supreme Court last week the court threw out a terrorism conviction against the countrys former president Mohamed Nasheed the justices also ruled that a number of other political prominence had unfairly been convicted and ordered their release on tuesday Security Forces stormed the Supreme Court building and arrested two of the five justices who president mean accused of plotting to overthrow him so what happens now joining us to talk about this in doha rashid shes an aljazeera journalist and former editor of more deaves independent in mali jeffrey why hed hes the deputy ambassador to the United Nations in geneva or same ali abdullah shes a representative of the more deaves Democratic Party and a member of parliament. Is a journalist after center for channel thirteen. News outlets in the more days welcome everybody good to have you and like i said. Start so we are in the midst of a fifteen day state of emergency we being the motives and thats our topic today this is what sharon on twitter had to say about that the sit emergency was invoked only to strengthen the president s grip on power he has a fact of lee paralyzed judiciary cedes the parliament and with the support of a few Security Officers he has hijacked the entire state some really big accusations there on twitter evolve from your perspective break this down for us who is president and does he stand accused do you agree that he has done all these things that he says hes done. Theres no doubt about it you cant deny the fact of the matter. On february first the Supreme Court ruled the Supreme Court ruled and ordered the release of a number of Political Prisoners glued in former president Mohamed Nasheed immediate and the rain statement of twelve m. P. s who had been unconstitutionally sacked by the Elections Commission president ya mean immediately cracked down on and said and he defied the Supreme Court ruling and said he would not implement the Supreme Court ruling and this is where the standoff started the president ya mean then declared a state of emergency he had the military and the police stormed the Supreme Court and dragged the chief justice the chief justice of the country he had the chief justice dragged across the floor and jailed the chief justice and another judge at the Supreme Court and president ya mean refuses to comply with the Supreme Court ruling this is where the standoff started and the same evening president yama arrested leader of the political opposition president mahmoud of the you would rule the country before president the shed president ya me had has also used the state of emergency for a page i would call it a purge on the purge on the political opposition a purge of the judiciary which is. To comply with him and a purge on the parliament and of the entire opposition so i guess let me share with you what jeffrey tweeted out jeffrey i picked this up of you to defeat the presidency of more days present state of emergency look at some of the reaction here thank you mr president save our nation thank you mr president please stabilize the country and align the Supreme Court so that our life can go on as usual one more hear another thank you we want to stable country where the Supreme Court rulings are along with the constitution exclamation mark jeffrey when you had about the state of emergency your reaction was what. See we have to keep in mind why exactly a state of emergency was put in place in the first place you know it all comes down to the Supreme Court decision that you didnt mention on the first of february let me put things into perspective for a second if the United States Supreme Court one friday evening ruled that all of a sudden the president ial election the last twenty sixteen president ial election was nullified no one asked them to weigh in there was no case before them and this is exactly what happened with our Supreme Court verdict the verdict came out of nowhere it was decided on a weekend there was no cross examinations no hearings and out of it Judges Chamber all of a sudden the secure the Supreme Court all the republican the maldives decided to absolutely use the tortie of the difference themselves to usurp absolute authority on themselves now what that decision on the first of february did it did two things the first thing it did was it consolidated absolute power in them by in validating the role of Digital Services commission now this is a commission that has a primary mandate to regulate to destry and the second thing that it did is that it took a number of dubious political positions including of course releasing a number of high profile former politicians were accused of grave grave crimes ranging from arson to keeping arms to to embezzle meant to kidnapping to attempting to assassinate the president of the into the level at which theyve gone is absolutely ludicrous and you dont like well its not well doesnt that mean in order to be just a host the attorney general ready for trial i hear a vote of the supreme telerate and talk to them to get rid of it if i want to ask questions later. Yes i would actually like to ask after this when the Supreme Court of the board if they actually did not fight an election in two thousand and thirteen when your father ran and won just five percent of the vote when Supreme Court nullified election why did we get the same response from you and why is president ya mean refused to comply this one ruling from the Supreme Court when for the four years of his predecessor youre talking about a moment in our history we nearly i know that as we can only. Good the nation ever think that he goes back and yet i know that every effort. I hear the that i am i dont hear the specific type you call a time from my lead so what do you want to at the head. Im curious. Why do you say that the Supreme Court ruling and could prove first notified the president yemens president i fear nothing of the thought it could to could two main things one is a reinstating the opposition members to problem and then the Political Prisoners it made no mention of saying that what was said to them since you tional crisis a constitutional crisis which required which required a state of emergency how does the stormers you know the president was forced implementers about the balance of power theres in shrines that are going to have to learn can argue National Crisis over rightly asshole title where i made any one very clearly yes this is i just make your point very clearly and then were going to move on. My point is that there was absolutely its actually incorrect to suggest that the Supreme Court not to fight the election that brought president yob into power that is absolutely incorrect. I dont mean i do you disagree so he no i hear you making that point so i want to bring in one other voice into this conversation and that is a voice of someone you all know a former supreme great guest also this is Mohamed Nasheed he is the former president of the mall deaves and he was the first democratically elected president heres what he told the stream about this crisis presently i. Was arrested the Supreme Court justice which has imposed martial law. Over the state. He almost lost all the democracy gains that he had. But you dont listen to me you dont have to take my word for it. You have a high commissioner for human rights resign. Clearly the same president as to the british nothing he says. You are going to be able to stage a coup institution and stability to the independent from. So les im curious about your opinion there because even if you dont want to take it from the former president he does quote the u. N. High commissioner for human rights who says that the current president has usurped the authority of the state does that give you pause no. Plus therefore was asking a lot the abduction of a forward judge for the high court. A court. Heard him use in america using the National Defense force but this case president yoweri is in this administration there rest said that according to the course for us to begin with the what is called a serious error said. And i are. You know in that theyve got their justice according to reversal of bribery the question is should i go to every single everett the constitution was suspended when i just stated agent im not going to let you go let me only let everybody go out of uganda and i can. Just check a no no he now has been reporting. Now youll just get to some of those communities who are i met suspended by the state of emergency like me a bit. So you know has a constitution be suspended on a Tipping Point on this fall out is there several articles of the bill of rights have been suspended and initially the president also suspended articles relating to the to the judiciary the one that states that the Supreme Court is the chief arbiter of all the requests to do sion when you have chief when you have the chief justice accused of taking millions of dollars worth of bribes it fundamentally violates. What you learned. The french and all that mean that you jason. His wife thinking look. Hes heres what im thinking. Moving off on a little bit how do you get out of the situation. With the multitude of members jailed. For the state of emergency. How to get out of the situation its a good resolution. To go detainees youre talking about. To begin with. Detainees in our local. Court but. These people who were arrested who were convicted they convicted as i guess relationally of. Kidnapping. People that was in. The state of emergency which was declared to bring the. Country for example. The. President. Was a respite and he. Was a firearms and trying to imagine that a president so if the Supreme Court. Ruling was. Implemented. Partner who will for the for national thread will be our audience really like a person who has a sas. Itself. These are people who for national threat. I do think the yemeni religion the. I think the nine. I think president ja maybe we should go forward president. Doesnt mean im going to have written you a little dry im on. Stage and we imagine that. Jeffrey in saying that crimes have to be investigated as thats one way out of what are you hearing so another. Thing that people are putting forward on line is that perhaps there needs to be international how to get out of this crisis this is not they who says india and sri lanka have the political clout to twist the arms of president i mean first start imposing these restrictions on political appointees of the government or someone else who has called for International Help and that is the former president mohamed the sheet you heard earlier but he got a response on twitter from Mohammad Nabi who says why are you calling other countries to come in because the people of the maldives are happy with our president and his decisions to keep us safe let us decide our leader by boat geoffrey what do you make of the calls for International Players to help india china for example were always happy to work with International Players but thats not what the former president the former president called specifically for Foreign Military intervention in our country and this is the thing no leader of our nation were there in the opposition or otherwise should ever ask for a Foreign Military presence to come into our country all in brazil three that as a small. History i look over and it was a little while and i know now. That it will never go well that inevitably im going to let you know you are going to fight for my heart of the country and that is iowa hold tight for a moment right here you join us. For the moment is how can he want to sell tied into. Resolution is very clear president must go president must resign we have a president who would invoke a state of emergency just because he feels insecure or this state of emergency is unknown this year emerge not a protected economy not actually sure not gentle green actually tied behind i was there and i could see you respond to give me a moment referring to Natural Disaster in the country the state of emergency was called for because a desk or take paranoid ruler feel increasingly insecure as we approach the elections and the Coalition Opposition coalition is gaining momentum and supporters and the Opposition Coalition of all right shows no sign of breaking and this is why the state of emergency because president feels paranoid and insecure and the only ones that are left over for your good that we are you are where were very good that you are the problem with some sources is that truth doesnt matter it doesnt matter the fact that what the facts are on the ground because time and time again we see the logic. Of the uncanny every time you want to get so tight for a moment i mean hearing good point because i have a look at the cia and i hear you beautifully no one else is hearing you well so i dont want to waste your time i dont waste your time like your i know youve got something to say like all going to say it no one else is going to talk over her head. Youre going to give it i want all if you would let anybody who cried for her out of. Your pool when youre. Also other youre also lets hear the answer even if its somebody first of all if somebody tried to assassinate me i would like them to be tried in a free and fair process even if that even if the target was me it has to be a free and fair process and not a political prosecution. I guess hold tight for what i meant was that for my own thank you thank you you asked a question just just gimme a minute so i want to bring it out only community they really want to join in your conversation as well we come right back to the whole time so people are still kind of focused on how do we resolve this Current Situation and theres a couple of ideas here going to throw this to you this is one person who says will there be an election because there is an election that was scheduled for later this year some talk of early elections but heres what people think about that novelist says all the opposition leaders have been imprisoned there are sufficient disincentive for anyone still seeking to stand for election against the mean another person writes and on twitter are some says he isnt going to allow a Fair Election so he needs to be removed by other means hes already doing an example of casting your vote for temporary needs and as far as im concerned he needs to step down now is the he now what do you make elections early elections do you see that happening will it matter. Of actions will not happen in the country president you mean. President so at the moment the Elections Commission theres a lot of criticism against it because its not going to be independent and this is one of the reasons why that is so is because its stripped twelve members a proposition from the problem and not all of the five members of the Election Commission William Party so i dont think there will be any election but the question of an election will happen and it will be free and fair is also in doubt. Let me share with you guessed this comment here from his saying his son hes the chief justice a lawyer and he says here the chief Justice Informed his lawyers that immediately after the Supreme Court warning on probably the first he received a number of threats including of course saying they would cut him to pieces unless he reverse the ruling so let me just bring you back in here because you made a hypothetical what if your life was at risk now if this is happening to members of the judiciary how do you get out of that situation how does this resolve itself. I dont think is happening. He just has. To bribe money from the present moment and then now we also he called he was inside the Supreme Court and called out before intervention being the chief justice he called alpha for intervention i dont think that is so. He had been easy to say was also the issue we have to take home and he is calling out f

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