Foresee for its its use in the e. U. Can you see it for instance begin to influence what appears to be the fairly insidious and creeping russian influence in European Political Affairs im thinking of russian money allegedly used to prop up the. Populist government in italy also suggestions of russian money being involved in breaks it. Tell me about the european angle well so your key United States is the most powerful country in the world but if you get the United States doing saying sions and europe not then then these guys are all going to the south of france and buying villas in the hotel in front of the hotel du koppen in marbella in sardinia and so the so europe has to has to conform with the rest of the world in order for this to be an effective policy and europe up until now hasnt now in december we had a breakthrough in europe where they were finally after 9 years of my campaigning they finally agreed. In principle to do it but it in principle and having a law theres a lot of dots to connect and the devil is in the details and the one thing i can say is that europe is where the russians are most active they find lots of corrupt politicians and officials in the United Kingdom in italy and in spain everywhere and they corrupt them and so europe is a very hard place to get this legislation passed theyre fighting like hell behind the scenes right now to try to stop it and theyve got countries like hungry in italy who are sort of at the moment sort of expressing objections. And even if it does get past getting 28 countries to agree on who to sanction is a very hard thing to do but it is the big prize if we get europe then we got them where they where it really hits them which is the villas the all that kind of stuff let me ask you about surrogate magnitsky now he was your lawyer in russia. As you explained he died in. Prison in 2009. And all of these global. Acts of legislation are in his name do you feel responsible for his death well i feel extremely responsible for his death he wouldnt be dead he wouldnt have died he wouldve suffered some horrific torture if he hadnt been my lawyer they effectively tortured him and killed him as my proxy and and so he was a young truly amazing great man with 2 children great great life ahead of him and he was cut short in the most horrific way at the age of 37. 00 and for me every day i feel terrible about that and thats that is that feeling of guilt and that feeling of responsibility and the feeling of anger that drives me for nearly a decade to devote my entire life to getting justice for him well youve talked about revenge who at what point do you imagine you might feel. Vengeful but its not about revenge as it is about justice but you know just revenge revenge is something he has were told its part of justice its thats what justice is you dont let people get away with with murder its going well beyond sort of a magnitsky you know other many other victims come to me with their issues and their problems in thats its become his legacy to to try to try to create a tool. A tool of fighting impunity in his name and so its not just about justice for revenge or any of those things its also about his legacy you talked about the 1000. 00 gawks you talked about the trillions of the stole taking you back to your time at the beginning in russia as the soviet union fell you also made a fortune in a fund that was investing in the privatizations of the day taking advantage of century of the collapse of the soviet system isnt that exactly what they did definitely not what they did so 1st of all what i did was i when when they pride. Ties the country had a stock market and i invested in the stock market and i vested in Big Companies in the stock market and what i did which is totally different than what they did was that the oligarchy and these corrupt officials were stealing from gas prom the biggest state company lukoil etc and i came up with an Investment Strategy which was to help to try to stop the stealing and to expose these guys as i was doing just the opposite which is they were stealing from the state from the people from their companies and i was researching how they were doing the stealing and then exposing the research the International Media to get them to stop it which is how they which is why the regime turned on me and went after me in such a vicious and horrible way but isnt there a gap in timing here initially you made your money and then you. Turned to criticizing know the regime initially you made your money in much the same way they did by taking advantage of a collapsing system well they only similarity is that we were both investing in the system at the very same time the difference was that almost immediately after i started i started exposing corruption which is which is i think that anybody who knew me in russia at the time said thats what russia needs thats a very brave thing to do and its a good thing for russia nobody said its a bad thing to do to invest in companies and i was doing it for money i wasnt doing it for the goodness of the state but to invest in companies expose corruption and try to stop it that definition only is is a good thing well given what was going on at that time then it could have come as much of a surprise to you when the rug was pulled out from under your feet because it did happen to Mikhail Khodorkovsky and other all the guards hes now a friend in our viewers here in london he stuck his nose into opposition politics he criticized the kremlin and he had his wings clipped as did all the others you mustve seen that and thought what if i carry on like this the same fate befalls me all or did you feel somehow sort of immune as a phone well that arrogance is arrogance it was stupidity it was bad bad judgment. But it was also circumstance so for a while i could get away with doing it for a very weird reason which was that when Vladimir Putin came to power he he was he was really sort of powerless because the oligarchs were stealing power from him and so every time i was exposed one of these all of arcs he would come to my aid this is at the very beginning around the year 2000 he would come to my aid and and and theres this expression your enemys enemy is your friend and so for a while it was on my side you know cleaning up russia the problem was that he wasnt trying to get rid of the oligarchy he just wanted to become the biggest oligarchy itself and. Effectively did that by arresting Michael Horta kosky the richest man in russia you put the richest man in russia in jail and you for any one of the Television Cameras to film him sitting in a cage whats your natural reaction going to be as another all of arc is is you dont want to be in a cage and that was the moment that the oligarchs came to him and said what we have to do flatter me or to not sit in this cage and he said 50 percent and so at that moment then that was and late 20032 going into 2004 that was the moment that Vladimir Putin. Turned in turn into the biggest oligarchy and that was the moment that my activities became intolerable to you no longer useful to him and indeed i mentioned you arrest in madrid last year interpol warrants 2 convictions in a censure do you fear for your life. Well i i live in a very precarious position where any day i could be killed or arrested illegally rendered back to russia but i dont spend my life living in fear because if i did that they would have already achieved 90 percent of their objective and so i take precautions. When and how i can i know that probably all the precautions i take can prevent the russians from killing me if they really want to kill me. And. I carry on doing what im doing im not going to im not going to stand down while youve chosen quite some place in which to do it london the u. K. A country in which 121314 estimated russian critics have lost their lives have come to a sticky end in dubious circumstances in just recent years why here why are you in london why are you living such a public existence well as i said im not the person whos going to live in fear im not the person whos going to withdraw not the person whos going to go into hiding my reaction is to go straight back at them and. Im not going to change locations. And you know the fate may or may you know deal me a very ugly blow but but thats the decision ive taken well from from the perspective of being in london. And in the context of the wider european question which we mentioned earlier why do you think these things keep happening in britain is it the case that britain is itself compromised in terms of its ability to deal with russia because of all the money parked here because of braggs it because it cant in a sense afford to alienate countries like russia well what ive seen is that the British Government on a regular basis doesnt create consequences for really horrific crimes committed by the russian government in this country and. Xander living in co was murdered with radioactive polonium in 2006 and it was discovered that was the russian government who did this russian f. S. B. And there was no serious consequences just a few diplomats expelled alexander polygyny a whistleblower in our case was killed after jogging outside his home in surrey the police didnt even investigate it as a murder. And then of course the script all poisoning where high grade military chemical weapons were used in in a cathedral town in the center of the u. K. And the only thing that happened was 23 diplomats were expelled and those 33. 00 diplomatic slots are now being negotiated to be replaced so some pretty undiplomatic language passed between the 2 but the diplomatic language words are cheap there is there was no consequences and so its created an environment to allow this to happen and then the question is why and the answer is that this country is compromised because there is russian money thats polluted the political process here and ive seen it up close and personal where members of the british establishment into british law making bodies are taking money to support russians in the magnitsky case and other cases take lord barker. Hes a member of the house of lords its hes a lawmaker and hes on the parent payroll of all legged or pasta running around the world trying to reduce sanctions on em. Why is that not illegal maybe it is illegal i dont know but thats outrageous and thats allowed to happen and nothing is nothings being done about it youve described to me of putin not as a man of conviction or ideology but as a modern day public he didnt doesnt have hes not hes not like Joseph Stalin hes not doing all these crimes for some communist reason hes not hes not doing this for some religious reason hes doing this for money hes a kleptocrat all he cares about is money and staying alive but and that makes him much more similar to a public escobar than a Joseph Stalin or at all hitler the problem is that you give pablo escobar. The powers of a sovereign state with military and Intelligence Services and Nuclear Weapons and thats a stream a scary combination well speaking of staying alive and we certainly hope you do do you feel that the efforts that youve put in place now are unstoppable even potentially come a day when youre not around to loping constantly in that cause the absolutely the the magnitsky act is now turned into a viral phenomenon its jumping from country to country to country theres magnitsky proposals all over the world in different parliaments and governments etc and of course i can help and i can stir up the pot make things happen but without my presence they would happen at the same time and in addition to that the the Money Laundering investigation the who got the 230000000. 00 and Sergei Magnitsky was killed over has led to a Massive InternationalMoney Laundering investigation which is snared danske a bank nor dia banks where Bank Credit Suisse u. B. S. Banks all over the world are 16 countries with Money Laundering investigations going on as a result of the making its case and its march much much larger than just the 230. Bill browder thank you for talking to aljazeera thank you. In a country with high youth unemployment one again i say sure helps turn School Children into entrepreneurs look on tell us what i mean by the word fundraising empowering them to reclaim their futures week to shut them out of this story by sheer size how to make the best face and build more prosperous communities some of the invest the money into the business of school for life uganda part of the rebel education series on aljazeera. 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In the last few hours Israeli Police have moved in to the al aqsa mosque compound in East Jerusalem the 5 sound grenades during a standoff with palestinians at one of the gates to the holy site lets go straight live now to our correspondent i meet who joins us from East Jerusalem others just walk us through whats going on there was the atmosphere like. Certainly you can actually feel the tension even from my violent Vantage Point which is why the most compound is just behind me there now what we have been witnessing over the past hour or maybe a little bit more is this ebb and flow of people running you hear the blasts of stun grenades weve seen some smoke which i presume would have been some tear gas shot now we did speak to a police Israeli Police spokesman and he said that contrary to the decision that was taken earlier in the day not to allow the. Jewish. Religious nationalists rather to enter the compound they reversed that decision around 11 oclock our time this morning g. M. T. Simply because the number of muslims had diminished. Considerably and so they decided to let in. Religious nationalist and they say that they will continue letting them in ever wants to access. Can do so that obviously will create and anger a lot of muslims have been a lot of tensions in the day leading to today the 1st day of. The muslims but also religious commemoration for the jews when that happens not very often but on this day it happened earlier in the day this whole esplanade was covered with thousands and thousands of worshipers now they have gone home to celebrate with their families still a few young people there we sowed Israeli Police enter the compound at this particular moment it seems to be quite calm all i can see from my Vantage Point is some of the paramedics but as we understand it still the standoff between the 2 sides is ongoing and the gates being closed when people are leaving the compound holder are they closing the gates behind people to ease tensions to stop people in country of the people or are they doing it to stoke the tensions because they know the people will be angry because they cant get back into the compound. Well i think probably your last point would be the right one what the police are saying is that they havent kicked anyone out of the complex but to every leave is not allowed to come back that would they would they would justify that as a security reason to ease the tensions but certainly it would be a move that will anger a lot of muslims simply because on the other hand while youre not allowing them to come back in you are allowing religious nationalist jewish religious nationalists to come in in the numbers they want to certainly it is a situation that is unfolding and as we all know each time these 2 sides come face to face skirmishes very quickly into violent clashes so certainly a situation that is being looked very closely by not only thirtys but also the palestinians thanks very much lets talk now to rami khouri whos a senior fellow and professor at the American University of beirut he joins us from the running theory welcome but good to have you back here on aljazeera what do you make of how the authorities are handling this potential flashpoint situation. Theyre handling it in a pretty typical way as theyve done for the last 45 years of occupation they use a restrictions they close areas they use violence they use tear gas they use live bullets. They try to use every possible means they have to make it clear that this is an area where the jewish people the Israeli Citizens the zionist believers have more rights than the indigenous palestinians some of whose families have been there for 800 or 900 years so that its a pretty typical situation where the passions are inflamed on the palestinian side when theyre prevented from going to pray at the one of their holiest sites in order to allow a small group of oprah right wing jewish nationalists who would probably be the equivalent of the White Supremacists in the United States today if youre looking for a political equivalent these right wing jewish nationalist say that this is a jewish la