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ALJAZ NEWSHOUR July 13, 2024

On reforms. And the bodies of. Board the passenger jet accidentally shot down by iran arrive home to a solemn ceremony in kiev. Is back in the cage after 15 months away and it takes him just 40 seconds to defeat the pope. Hello we begin this news hour in berlin thats where libyas warring leaders and powerful outsiders who back them are at a summit aimed at ending years of chaos and conflict so the chancellor Angela Merkel is hosting 12 World Leaders including the president s of Turkey Russia and france as well as the u. K. Prime minister Boris Johnson their priorities are to curb Foreign Military interference and solidify a cease fire or Russias Vladimir Putin met turkeys regift earlier on they back rival sides russia supports war lords. While turkey is helping the u. N. Recognize governments have to is fighting against their previous ceasefire efforts have broken down. We have been trying on a number of occasions to have a cease fire agreement signed the National Government of accord signed a cease fire agreement yes it wasnt signed by the other possibly by hostile if we failed to have a cease fire in place and if we failed to have an agreement signed we will never see how fatahs hostilities coming to an end we go with. We think both the parties for coming to moscow as they both had heeded our calls and they had both responded to our demands of a ceasefire now we are in berlin we hope for more success in this particular crisis. Well back in libya fighting has continued near the capital tripoli and there have been reports off artillery fire thats have tied his forces try to take an area south off the city. Who is standing by in tripoli to tell us more about that well speak to him in just a moment but 1st lets cross over to standing by for us in berlin and jamal with many different players and different stakes in libya what are the chances of success and what should we be looking out for. Well it depends what you mean by success really durian i mean if were looking for some sort of solution to this civil war essentially thats been going on for several years now then thats close to impossible from this meeting if were looking for maybe at least the outline of a political process that might get us closer to finding some sort of a solution then yes there is some sort of reserve optimism that is being expressed but lets look at some of the signs that have come out for example both the Prime Minister of the u. N. Recognize government and star in berlin however the Prime Minister refused to sit down on the same table with saying that he cannot sit down with somebody who essentially has the blood of libyans on his hands and continues to. Break the cease fire thats was agreed to in moscow several days ago but this is as much about the countries that are not libya about the players that arent libyans as it is about the libyans themselves so as you mentioned there you have russia on one side you have turkey on the other we have so many other players who are either directly involved or those who are trying to regain some sort of influence in what is an extremely strategic country both economically and youll politically so you have the United Arab Emirates you have egypt that have been militarily involved in libya who see in libya. Their vision of the middle east one that is essentially ruled by specifically dreams that are against the arab spring going against all that it represented then you have other countries on the other side for example that are necessarily looking gets the demarcations of their influence of the countries by that kind of promise we have things like algeria morocco and tunisia who also are impacted either directly because the border with libya or because of their influence in north africa and then you have the europeans weve got the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom burst on so you have. Italians with their history in libya you have the french who have been accused of selling weapons to how theyre trying to regain their influence. Through this conference as well so all of this taking place all of these different cards being played by the different players how theyre going to come about some sort of a solution were waiting to find out but thats all happening behind closed doors all right so once they open these Doors Germany what should we be looking out for talk us through the next couple of hours. Well were getting weve got these draft resolutions that have been coming through and then we kind of read out a couple of them some of them are expected lot where they say you know participants reiterated their commitment to the sovereignty independence territorial integrity and National Unity of libya obviously cynics would kind of laugh at that considering that participants have actually been actively supporting different sides in a civil war and have been they are Foreign Countries and therefore that integrity and National Unity and sovereignty of. Question but lets look at the more significant ones here and the most important i think and this is probably the most tangible thing that will come up comes under the band of follow up these are points 5 point 5. 00 in this draft resolution where theyre called upon the secretary general of the United Nations special envoy on libya. Chair of the berlin process and the outcome of this and from this they see the Operational Group will be set up what theyre calling the international follow up committee or the i. F. C. And that will be under the coordination of the it will basically will coordinate the aftermath of the berlin summit will be under the chair of the special envoy the u. N. Special envoy as well as a real teaching chairmanship what we guess is between the countries that are here in berlin which will look. Different aspects to different. True it one of them will be looking at the political process and the other one will be looking at. The escalation and the arming of the different factions and so forth but beyond the regional implications and as a regional players im sure well hear from more than tripoli. Remember how many weapons flooded into libya in the arab spring with the fight against but dunphy remember the makeup and the social fabric of libya in terms of the tribal factions that exist or about further complicates the situation and makes it such a tool tall so to expect some sort of a solution notwithstanding all the different parties in all the Different Countries from china to the United States trying to agree on some sort of way forward ok jim out thank you for that update from berlin were going to put some of these points to our senior political analyst Madeleine Bashar hes joining us here in the studio hi my one and just to pick up on what jamal was saying that last point in the draft communique that i have right here so theyre calling on the creation of an international follow up committee in order to maintain coordination in the aftermath of this berlin summit going on right now is that achievable is this a good step i think it is and i think it is a good step in the sense that this is the logical step because one thing is to say i want ceasefire and im having a cease fire another thing is to talk about a long term truce as was in vision from the United Nations early on meaning you need an extended time of a certain seizing of fire. Up until a political process can mature allowing for whatever it is either of conciliation new constitution study showing all the National Army and sold so forth so its not enough to depend on the whims of the parties for a ceasefire you need to take certain logical steps including. Exchange of prisoners including a special commission that will have an oversight over who is respecting the ceasefire and who isnt about suggesting and implementing a number of confidence Building Measures all of that is necessary in order to allow the process to endure and for a political process to begin heres the things that the draft communique also some of the headlines that are coming out of fed are theyre calling for a cease fire theyre calling for an arms embargo and return to the political process is the same a different from the political agreement that we saw back in 2015 with the straight out agreement does this build on that or is this a new framework altogether well i mean you would hope it builds on that but the problem is that since that was agreed on and especially over the last year there was a certain complicity a certain appeasement to a warlord that basically acted fault against the agreement of 2015 and in fact the the foreign minister of morocco spoke to our sister channel al jazeera arabic explaining why and why and how this figures in terms of the 2015 agreement clearly the europeans and the russians and others have started to appease the renegade general huffed against that accommodation of the United Nations that there is a you and recognize government in tripoli and i think that appeasement that complicity with the warlord is the thing that allowed the war to continue over the last 8 months and it was only and this is the thing that we all need to bear in mind as this process takes hold is that this is all started with turkey. When turkey decided against the complicity in that piece meant of many of the partners europeans the russians certainly the egyptians and others and said look we have a United Nations recognized government and no one is supporting it and we are the turks are going to support the United Nations because nice government against the onslaught of a warlord called Khalifa Haftar that is not necessarily recognized neither by this fraud or any other process that is legal under goodness international and that turkish move plus of course the russian complicity stirred fears and anxiety among the europeans who for a long time many months now thought you know what lets just leave it to the warlord well have another sisi of egypt in libya that can guard our interests that ensure the flow of oil and that can fight terrorism and stop that a few jews for us and hell with democracy and human rights in libya well the turks disagreed they moved in and since then we have a whole new dynamic whether this dynamic would copy the surat or it will bring in a whole new process that takes in consideration the changes in the ground remains to be seen raisen says it will take into consideration whats going on in the ground you see it ok you might have a new dynamic yet the facts are that you have many different players supporting different players on the ground and they have very stakes in libya from what youve seen in the past couple of weeks and the movement when it comes to libya are these gaps getting any closer so do you see any chances of a breakthrough from this and then i think thats a great question and im not sure i can answer it in a minute or 2 but clearly. Going to give iran the let me give iran the figure lets say. What drives the various parties there are none libyan parties and berlin is not libya what drives them is their own strategic calculus and they have or now paid attention that their disagreements their appeasements their complicity sitting on their hands have allowed the situation in libya to deteriorate and now theyre going to move in to try to consolidate so the french and the italians who disagree now are agreeing the germans and the french who are more or less sitting on their hands now theyre getting up and doing something the turks and the russians who are standing on the different sides of the equations have come together in moscow and decided that they will work towards a ceasefire because it does serve both of their interests so there is some consolidation for the time being where there are different parties are seeing that they all have a stake in calming the situation in libya and for all of them to have a stake not in that deterioration but they could have a stake in the reconsolidation in libya and that in and by itself is a good thing ok. Thank you very much. Well lets find out whats happening on the ground in libya and bring in what ive done well head now hes joining us from tripoli and we are hearing that there may be some fighting ongoing in the south of tripoli. Is the ceasefire thats meant to be in place actually holding while these talks go on in berlin. Will jury in the civil war let violations by have to us forces on the ground have been documented by the government of National Accord including. Targeting the areas saw that in an area called the book rain but today here in the capital tripoli we have been hearing sounds of heavy fire and did the Government Military sources say that have those forces tried to advance a couple of axes and southern tripoli but they say they have very pilled. Up attack they also say that have to the forces that used to live the fire and mortar rockets in that attack meanwhile the situation remains very chaotic in the east of the country has located of 5 major Oil Terminals by forces loyal to the world a lot of money for have to continue and service south of the country we have been getting get reports from the south saying that tribal men have been trying to block 2 major oil fields. And theyll feel in the south of libya it seems that as their peace talks are going on and believe but both rival factions on the ground out of not abiding by the Cease Fire Initiative proposed by the key and russia 10 days ago the lack of trust is a key expression here seems that book. Factions need a long time and effort in order to build trust between them all right thank you for that update from tripoli. And just to let you know that were waiting for the post summit Media Conference out of berlin and once that happens well take you back to the german capital to hear what the leaders there have to say for now we have the rest of the days news coming up right here on the aljazeera news hour and Police Officers are beaten up by protesters arrested after a violent end to what had been a peaceful rally in hong kong. We join the Philippine Coast guard trying to convince villagers in a volcano evacuation zone. And in sports a late late show to rescue for ac milan peter has the show coming up a little later. For now though we take you to lebanon and Security Forces there have reportedly fired tear gas at crowds of protesters gathering for another day of rallies it happened near the Parliament Building in beiruts antigovernment protesters are frustrated over the worsening financial crisis and the impasse over the formation off a new government on saturday months of peaceful protests descended into rioting leaving nearly 400 people injured. Lets get an update from santa joining us from beirut and we understand that tear gas has been used once again to Disperse Protesters right outside the Parliament Building what more can you tell us. Yeah thats exactly where we are outside Parliament Building a short while ago Security Forces used tear gas protesters threw stones at them the situation is now called but tense a concrete slabs and barbed wire really separates both sides a few 100 have been here over the past 2 hours we are expecting a much larger crowd its not clear why. People really didnt show up is it because of the bad weather conditions or were people afraid of what they saw last night running battles in the streets of South Central beirut to almost 400 people injured both Security Forces as well as protesters even though yesterday protesters. Defiance they vowed not to back down and they said that their movement will only escalate in order to bring about a change in leadership. Revolution the revolution but so far those in power the Political Parties which have been in power for the last 3 decades remain in power and are refusing to make any concessions. Rage in the streets of the capital in what might be a new phase in an uprising against lebanons leadership that is now in its worst months fierce confrontations between antiriot police and. Protesters turned downtown beirut into a war zone this is the epicenter of a protest movement that until a few days ago was relatively peaceful running battles began when demonstrators who want the Political Class they blame for mismanagement and corruption to leave power try to storm Parliament Building Security Forces responded with tear gas. Protesters and that they cant win and i think that the message of at. The biggest thing here is that the more violence they face the more. Lebanons economy has been in turmoil for months a proposal to tax whats up calls which should be a free service triggered the protests in mid october unemployment was rising and the lebanese local currency was losing value we are in an economy crisis everybodys going to get hungry everybodys going to need to do this so. I dont have to convince anybody about whats happening today its clear whats happening who can get hold of their money in the banks we lost everything jobs finally everything this is good with 5000 years of history it is an amazing country they took everything we have nothing left this is our only option is to go down on the streets and violence we have to use violence we are fighting a 40 year corrupted government. There is anger at banks which imposed caps on withdrawa

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