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Addis ababa on the prime ministers comments. These, talking about the higher western part of the great region that is the near the border. If you will be a has with a trailer on the sudan, hes talking about thomson cities like a group which has been the city and the nation. I give them and which has got a lot of his total core value to you, your pm then also areas not far away from their korean border, that inflection there and shoot out over as well as homemade out, which is a crossing point into the sudan border theres been International Criticism over a new rule from china that saw for opposition. Politicians in hong kong disqualified both the u. K. And us have said they would consider sanctions. The u. S. Has recorded its west daily death toll from code 19 since may and Health Experts are warning the pandemic is accelerating. Nearly 2000 more americans died on wednesday, taking the number of fatalities to more than 241000. It was also the 9th straight day that the number of new cases topped 100000. Rival faction in libya have agreed to hold elections within 18 months. The un hailed the deal as a breakthrough. Both sides signed a cease fire agreement last month in geneva. At least 8 peacekeepers are reported to have died after a Helicopter Crash in egypt. The black hawk aircraft went down over the sinai peninsula. It belonged to the Multinational Force of observers that monitor the 40 year old Peace Agreement between israel and egypt. 6 americans were among the dead, and french and czech nationals were also said to have been on board. Those are the headlines and ill have more news for you here on out of there after the bottom line. Stay with us. I am Steve Clemons and i have a question with the election behind us. Will the Republican Party dump truck, lets get to the bottom line. Even though he was voted out of the white house, most agree that donald trump and trump is and are not going away. The vote was close, the senate is still republican controlled, and republican members of congress defeated democrats all over the country. So even though he lost the election, trump is still the Major Force Driving his base and his party. What does it mean for the future of republicans over the next few years . What lessons is the party learning from this election . And how would they deal with the Incoming Democratic administration led by joe biden. And camila harris. Joining me is former senator chuck hagel, who has served this defense secretary in the Obama Administration. He was a conservative senator from nebraska and a lifelong republican, well known as one of americas lead bipartisan voices. Thank you so much for joining us today. Youre part of a group called the National Council on election integrity. Weve just had this major election more americans voted in this election than have voted in a century in this country. Theyre back, theyre back at it. A lot of people are saying that election is not over. You are a republican, but one who does not support donald trump. What do we need to achieve at this point to get a sound secure trustable election result that more americans will believe in that are that are on the case now. Steve, thanks for having me on. Ive always believed the essence of democracy is a trust and confidence in our a free fair, secure our elections. And if most americans feel that this past election was fair and was secure and was honest, then thats a big thing. Thats a big deal because thats where you start. If the citizenry of this country dont believe that the elections were fair or if they were stolen or if they were fraudulent, theyre not going to believe anything new, not going to believe in their leaders are not going to believe what their leaders say. So i think to a great extent, weve accomplished a good deal of that. I know there are lawsuits. There will be more i know there are recounts, but weve always had recounts its in the law. You can have recounts. But i think what weve got to do is try to find ways and leaders have this responsibility. Ready to really answer readjust americas confidence in its institutions. Again, you do that not by saying it or talking about it. But by showing that they can trust their institutions of governance. And by the way, not just governance, the media all has to to sions, higher education, religion, journalism, the law congress, politics and no, its not a perfect picture, but i think thats where you start. And i think if joe biden can accomplish that, and in the 1st few years of his administration, he will have brought this country back a long way and thats, thats what we have to do. Weve got to trust the system. Then. Then we can ever have base and we can have our differences then we can fight it out. But, but that trust and confidence is the number one baseline for tomorrows sector hegel. What failed. I remember covering you in the United States senate and you didnt always like my covered sometimes, you know, you would duck me, but i would, i would, i would, you know, ask you in the sense that you were unpredictable to me on occasion. You were not a predictable vote in one column, particularly in Foreign Policy issues. And im just wondering, one, are you bothered by how predictable votes have become voters on the Supreme Court votes in the United States senate . You know, im just wondering where the thinking in introspection is, you know, and i think secondly, what happened to that kind of republican, why have you failed and your colleagues failed to keep the Republican Party a thoughtful party . Well, obviously i cant speak for my former colleagues or anybody in office now, but for me, steve, answer your question. I always had a northstar. It didnt mean i was always right or i had the right answer, but i had a northstar. I knew why i was there and i used to say, and you heard me say it and i said in the form of a cite and speeches when i was being i was being ridiculed. So my republican colleagues as a rhino republican name all mean i was, i was disloyal to the Republican Party. I used to say, we take an oath of office to the constitution. We dont take an oath of office to a Political Party or a president or anybody else, just the constitution. And as long as you have that privilege of serving this country in some capacity in elective office, your focus, your northstar should be what you think is the right thing to do for your country. Obviously who you represent your state. But for your country. And i never got confused about that again. Didnt mean i was any better than anybody else where i was right all the time. But i think weve lost some of that and i think we lost over the years. I dont think it was just President Trump. I think he put a fine point on it the last 4 years, but this idea of you got to be all republican or all democrat and support everything the democrat says, or their vote and say, or youre not a Good Party Member is nonsense. Weve never been that way. Theres no corner on the market on good ideas or honesty or the right thing by one party and the other party is excluded. So thats a democracy. Thats the way democracies work. You come together, you listen, each other struck each other. You debate out your differences, you subtler you compromise and you move, you move the country ahead for the good country. You know, youre well no as a Foreign Policy realist. And for those who want to quick dose of what real is a means, that means you see the world as it is not the world youd like it to be. You know, as you see, other foreign leaders looking at our leadership right now, both in donald trump and this change to joe biden. In the white house, from a realist perspective, what are they seeing . Do they see the United States as a pushover . Do they see the United States as in strategic contraction and not going to matter as much im interested in and this is your world. How do, how do you think they see us . Well, i think the last 4 years, and ive talked to many, many ambassadors, foreign ministers, defense ministers, prime ministers. And so this is not just my opinion. This is in talking with a lot of people i think because they see it as they see this in a way that its confusing to them. Certainly since world war 2, this country has engaged the world. Weve engaged other countries. We lead in building a new world order after world war 2, the liberal trade order that built institutions of common interest, united nations, general green on tariffs and trade world bank, i. M. F. , collective security, nato says so on and so on. And so the been confused as to who we really are the last 4 years because weve pushed back, weve not engage, weve essentially tariffed, unsanctioned our own allies. Weve questioned their friendship. We had a president who said, im not sure we need nato there. They have lived off of us, weve supported the world, were not going to do that anymore. Thats confused. Our allies, s. Confused the world, and i think in biden they see a whole different approach because 1st of all they know, but biden was in the senate 36 years Foreign Relations committee, 36 years 8 years. As Vice President , theres hardly any leader in the world today. He does not have a personal relationship with they know, and they trust that. Dont always agree with him, but the coin of the round in any business, but especially in Foreign Policy and politics is trust. You trust that persons word, you may disagree with him, but you trust him. I think they trust joe biden. They know that joe biden is an engagement, a person who as president will engage us again, will bring america back. I think weve kind of found ourselves the last 4 years on an island. I think weve isolated ourselves and where america is, i slid when america is off balanced. The world becomes more dangerous. I mean, not to every problem in the world is our fault, or we need to deal with, not at all, but we are the one. I know this is a trait expression. Started by president reagan, but we are truly the one beacon in the world. Theres no other country like ours as many mistakes as we make it in where imperfect and do dumb things sometimes. But the world world trust that and when thats gone, theres no other beacon and people get lost, get confused, and bad things happen when you were secretary of defense and again, you know, just reporting on you at that time. There wasnt always a consensus in the Obama Administration about how to deal with a problematic country, like syria or what to do in response to russia. Or, you know, chinas growing influence in the sights South China Sea and globally. And so im wondering what you think is going to be the case around joe biden, when he comes in because theres a wing of Foreign Policy, you know, in lot of bernie sanders, supporters who, who in their own view sound pretty similar to donald trump, that they dont see that Global Engagement pays off. Is, is joe biden going to be caught in a vice between these same kinds of groups that often created some confusion in president obamas Foreign Policy . Well, i dont know about caught in a vise, steve, but there are differences. As you know, and you noted in a democratic party, there are differences in the Republican Party on Foreign Policy. Joe bidens going to have to navigate this very carefully. But i think based on his experience, based on people who know and both international leaders, both leaders here in this country and in his own party, they know who he is. They know what he represents. They know his history and i think is long as he deals with everybody directly. And honestly, he listens to everybody listens to bernie sanders, us and everybody. Then he, then hes president. Hes got to decide he has to make the decisions. Hes going to have to do what he thinks is the right thing for this country. And i know i know hell do that. Its not always, its not always easy. The world is, is different. Certainly then was 12 years ago when joe and barack obama became the president and Vice President , some problems are still the same and theyre worse. I think the middle east is in more chaos. Other parts of the world a little better. Maybe north korea. China has risen over the last 12 years, so its going to take, i think, a new evaluation, a new review, i think youll see. And by an effort to review our, our security interests in the world review our policies in the world. I think thats probably under way now, you know, bringing an experienced people who can bring in the best people. He will feel the team of people who were all, can trust United States can trust. And that will be his, his Foreign Policy, but at least based on what certainly is good for the United States. And good for the world are, those are not mutually exclusive. Matter fact, all those institutions we built live lead in doling out to or to work mutual consensus, institutions of mutual interests, common interests, institutions. If, if the world was more peaceful, that was good news for everybody. Draped education, change programs more freedom, more opportunities, more hope. So this is not a one way street and i think President Trump some, i was gotten confused over the years about what Foreign Policy isnt a gauge mitt. Its not a one way street. It is. Its a 2 way street. Its we can or all as global citizens as all part of a Global Community benefit from a state prosperous, peaceful world. And i think that that would be joe bidens approach. You know, one of your other Close Friends has was jim mattis, you know, who secretary of defense, you know, a successor in your job of course. And so you know, his thoughts and views. Well, hes put them out there. But another person who just got terminated, that position is mark esper. He was fired by tweet, secretary defense, you know, really remarkable moment. And secretary asper, you know, went out and said, if donald trump gets a yes man in that position, you know, god help all of us. What do you think our def, con level should be regarding concern, or what mark asked for shared . Well, 1st i have great confidence in our National Security enterprise, our institutions and our, our leaders, our uniformed military leaders from the chair of the joint chiefs all away down to the joint chiefs of staff, all our leaders. They will follow the law, they will protect the constitution regardless who sent the sector defenses, regardless who the president is. And they are school in how to do that if they jack to an order, whats the process . So im not too concerned about any of that. I think estrus comments are comments that should be taken seriously, and that matter of fact, mark s. For work for me in the senate. But i think in any secretary of defense would, would probably approach it the same way. Ask for again in ways what he said yesterday in those nos remarks, but i have confidence in our system, our people, the enterprise that will be ok regardless of who the president is. It might be messy, it could be messy, it could result in a constitutional crisis. But our military leaders are not going to lay the thing happened in this country. You know, one of the other things that occurs to me because cyber erekat, whom you knew well, has just died from coded. And so it puts, at least for a moment, you know, a spotlight back on the fact that nothing has been achieved in terms of the Palestinian Statehood issue or, you know, autonomy issue in quite a long time. Do you think that is you is one that can just be ignored forever brushed under the rug . Or do you think, fundamentally, for stability in the region, a middle east, that palestine, israel problems got to be solved in a way that were not it, you know, attending to right now . Well, i think we are going to have to Pay Attention to it. And obviously the last 4 years, we did everything to essentially just show it out of the way and make it more difficult and more complicated. But it, but its going to have to be dealt with. And if you just look at the middle east today, i think the middle east today is more volatile, more explosive, more out of balance, than we, weve seen, probably since the, the 1973 young to poor war. And thats dangerous, because you look at the centrally nonfunctioning governments in the middle east, syria, libya, yemen. Iraq still got deep problems. 11 on essentially has no government. Thats not going to get better. Thats not going to get better and i dont lay it all at the feet of the palestinian israeli issue. But it, but that is part of the larger framework of issues. And i think biden is always been a leader in this area. And hes always been smart about it and hes tough. And i, i would suspect hes going to probably dress this up in his 1st 4 years. Now its, i know every president sees it as a no win situation. Why would i want to get involved . Why would i want to do this . Why would i want to go there . But i dont think that you can walk away from the United States has to take some responsibility in helping facilitate the agreement there. And my guess is that biden will do that. I think the priorities and his Strategic Thinking and his Foreign Policy as it develops is a i necessarily put the palestinian issue at the top. But i think its going to be on the agenda right now. Were presuming International Criticism<\/a> over a new rule from china that saw for opposition. Politicians in hong kong disqualified both the u. K. And us have said they would consider sanctions. The u. S. Has recorded its west daily death toll from code 19 since may and Health Experts<\/a> are warning the pandemic is accelerating. Nearly 2000 more americans died on wednesday, taking the number of fatalities to more than 241000. It was also the 9th straight day that the number of new cases topped 100000. Rival faction in libya have agreed to hold elections within 18 months. The un hailed the deal as a breakthrough. Both sides signed a cease fire agreement last month in geneva. At least 8 peacekeepers are reported to have died after a Helicopter Crash<\/a> in egypt. The black hawk aircraft went down over the sinai peninsula. It belonged to the Multinational Force<\/a> of observers that monitor the 40 year old Peace Agreement<\/a> between israel and egypt. 6 americans were among the dead, and french and czech nationals were also said to have been on board. Those are the headlines and ill have more news for you here on out of there after the bottom line. Stay with us. I am Steve Clemons<\/a> and i have a question with the election behind us. Will the Republican Party<\/a> dump truck, lets get to the bottom line. Even though he was voted out of the white house, most agree that donald trump and trump is and are not going away. The vote was close, the senate is still republican controlled, and republican members of congress defeated democrats all over the country. So even though he lost the election, trump is still the Major Force Driving<\/a> his base and his party. What does it mean for the future of republicans over the next few years . What lessons is the party learning from this election . And how would they deal with the Incoming Democratic<\/a> administration led by joe biden. And camila harris. Joining me is former senator chuck hagel, who has served this defense secretary in the Obama Administration<\/a>. He was a conservative senator from nebraska and a lifelong republican, well known as one of americas lead bipartisan voices. Thank you so much for joining us today. Youre part of a group called the National Council<\/a> on election integrity. Weve just had this major election more americans voted in this election than have voted in a century in this country. Theyre back, theyre back at it. A lot of people are saying that election is not over. You are a republican, but one who does not support donald trump. What do we need to achieve at this point to get a sound secure trustable election result that more americans will believe in that are that are on the case now. Steve, thanks for having me on. Ive always believed the essence of democracy is a trust and confidence in our a free fair, secure our elections. And if most americans feel that this past election was fair and was secure and was honest, then thats a big thing. Thats a big deal because thats where you start. If the citizenry of this country dont believe that the elections were fair or if they were stolen or if they were fraudulent, theyre not going to believe anything new, not going to believe in their leaders are not going to believe what their leaders say. So i think to a great extent, weve accomplished a good deal of that. I know there are lawsuits. There will be more i know there are recounts, but weve always had recounts its in the law. You can have recounts. But i think what weve got to do is try to find ways and leaders have this responsibility. Ready to really answer readjust americas confidence in its institutions. Again, you do that not by saying it or talking about it. But by showing that they can trust their institutions of governance. And by the way, not just governance, the media all has to to sions, higher education, religion, journalism, the law congress, politics and no, its not a perfect picture, but i think thats where you start. And i think if joe biden can accomplish that, and in the 1st few years of his administration, he will have brought this country back a long way and thats, thats what we have to do. Weve got to trust the system. Then. Then we can ever have base and we can have our differences then we can fight it out. But, but that trust and confidence is the number one baseline for tomorrows sector hegel. What failed. I remember covering you in the United States<\/a> senate and you didnt always like my covered sometimes, you know, you would duck me, but i would, i would, i would, you know, ask you in the sense that you were unpredictable to me on occasion. You were not a predictable vote in one column, particularly in Foreign Policy<\/a> issues. And im just wondering, one, are you bothered by how predictable votes have become voters on the Supreme Court<\/a> votes in the United States<\/a> senate . You know, im just wondering where the thinking in introspection is, you know, and i think secondly, what happened to that kind of republican, why have you failed and your colleagues failed to keep the Republican Party<\/a> a thoughtful party . Well, obviously i cant speak for my former colleagues or anybody in office now, but for me, steve, answer your question. I always had a northstar. It didnt mean i was always right or i had the right answer, but i had a northstar. I knew why i was there and i used to say, and you heard me say it and i said in the form of a cite and speeches when i was being i was being ridiculed. So my republican colleagues as a rhino republican name all mean i was, i was disloyal to the Republican Party<\/a>. I used to say, we take an oath of office to the constitution. We dont take an oath of office to a Political Party<\/a> or a president or anybody else, just the constitution. And as long as you have that privilege of serving this country in some capacity in elective office, your focus, your northstar should be what you think is the right thing to do for your country. Obviously who you represent your state. But for your country. And i never got confused about that again. Didnt mean i was any better than anybody else where i was right all the time. But i think weve lost some of that and i think we lost over the years. I dont think it was just President Trump<\/a>. I think he put a fine point on it the last 4 years, but this idea of you got to be all republican or all democrat and support everything the democrat says, or their vote and say, or youre not a Good Party Member<\/a> is nonsense. Weve never been that way. Theres no corner on the market on good ideas or honesty or the right thing by one party and the other party is excluded. So thats a democracy. Thats the way democracies work. You come together, you listen, each other struck each other. You debate out your differences, you subtler you compromise and you move, you move the country ahead for the good country. You know, youre well no as a Foreign Policy<\/a> realist. And for those who want to quick dose of what real is a means, that means you see the world as it is not the world youd like it to be. You know, as you see, other foreign leaders looking at our leadership right now, both in donald trump and this change to joe biden. In the white house, from a realist perspective, what are they seeing . Do they see the United States<\/a> as a pushover . Do they see the United States<\/a> as in strategic contraction and not going to matter as much im interested in and this is your world. How do, how do you think they see us . Well, i think the last 4 years, and ive talked to many, many ambassadors, foreign ministers, defense ministers, prime ministers. And so this is not just my opinion. This is in talking with a lot of people i think because they see it as they see this in a way that its confusing to them. Certainly since world war 2, this country has engaged the world. Weve engaged other countries. We lead in building a new world order after world war 2, the liberal trade order that built institutions of common interest, united nations, general green on tariffs and trade world bank, i. M. F. , collective security, nato says so on and so on. And so the been confused as to who we really are the last 4 years because weve pushed back, weve not engage, weve essentially tariffed, unsanctioned our own allies. Weve questioned their friendship. We had a president who said, im not sure we need nato there. They have lived off of us, weve supported the world, were not going to do that anymore. Thats confused. Our allies, s. Confused the world, and i think in biden they see a whole different approach because 1st of all they know, but biden was in the senate 36 years Foreign Relations<\/a> committee, 36 years 8 years. As Vice President<\/a> , theres hardly any leader in the world today. He does not have a personal relationship with they know, and they trust that. Dont always agree with him, but the coin of the round in any business, but especially in Foreign Policy<\/a> and politics is trust. You trust that persons word, you may disagree with him, but you trust him. I think they trust joe biden. They know that joe biden is an engagement, a person who as president will engage us again, will bring america back. I think weve kind of found ourselves the last 4 years on an island. I think weve isolated ourselves and where america is, i slid when america is off balanced. The world becomes more dangerous. I mean, not to every problem in the world is our fault, or we need to deal with, not at all, but we are the one. I know this is a trait expression. Started by president reagan, but we are truly the one beacon in the world. Theres no other country like ours as many mistakes as we make it in where imperfect and do dumb things sometimes. But the world world trust that and when thats gone, theres no other beacon and people get lost, get confused, and bad things happen when you were secretary of defense and again, you know, just reporting on you at that time. There wasnt always a consensus in the Obama Administration<\/a> about how to deal with a problematic country, like syria or what to do in response to russia. Or, you know, chinas growing influence in the sights South China Sea<\/a> and globally. And so im wondering what you think is going to be the case around joe biden, when he comes in because theres a wing of Foreign Policy<\/a>, you know, in lot of bernie sanders, supporters who, who in their own view sound pretty similar to donald trump, that they dont see that Global Engagement<\/a> pays off. Is, is joe biden going to be caught in a vice between these same kinds of groups that often created some confusion in president obamas Foreign Policy<\/a> . Well, i dont know about caught in a vise, steve, but there are differences. As you know, and you noted in a democratic party, there are differences in the Republican Party<\/a> on Foreign Policy<\/a>. Joe bidens going to have to navigate this very carefully. But i think based on his experience, based on people who know and both international leaders, both leaders here in this country and in his own party, they know who he is. They know what he represents. They know his history and i think is long as he deals with everybody directly. And honestly, he listens to everybody listens to bernie sanders, us and everybody. Then he, then hes president. Hes got to decide he has to make the decisions. Hes going to have to do what he thinks is the right thing for this country. And i know i know hell do that. Its not always, its not always easy. The world is, is different. Certainly then was 12 years ago when joe and barack obama became the president and Vice President<\/a> , some problems are still the same and theyre worse. I think the middle east is in more chaos. Other parts of the world a little better. Maybe north korea. China has risen over the last 12 years, so its going to take, i think, a new evaluation, a new review, i think youll see. And by an effort to review our, our security interests in the world review our policies in the world. I think thats probably under way now, you know, bringing an experienced people who can bring in the best people. He will feel the team of people who were all, can trust United States<\/a> can trust. And that will be his, his Foreign Policy<\/a>, but at least based on what certainly is good for the United States<\/a>. And good for the world are, those are not mutually exclusive. Matter fact, all those institutions we built live lead in doling out to or to work mutual consensus, institutions of mutual interests, common interests, institutions. If, if the world was more peaceful, that was good news for everybody. Draped education, change programs more freedom, more opportunities, more hope. So this is not a one way street and i think President Trump<\/a> some, i was gotten confused over the years about what Foreign Policy<\/a> isnt a gauge mitt. Its not a one way street. It is. Its a 2 way street. Its we can or all as global citizens as all part of a Global Community<\/a> benefit from a state prosperous, peaceful world. And i think that that would be joe bidens approach. You know, one of your other Close Friends<\/a> has was jim mattis, you know, who secretary of defense, you know, a successor in your job of course. And so you know, his thoughts and views. Well, hes put them out there. But another person who just got terminated, that position is mark esper. He was fired by tweet, secretary defense, you know, really remarkable moment. And secretary asper, you know, went out and said, if donald trump gets a yes man in that position, you know, god help all of us. What do you think our def, con level should be regarding concern, or what mark asked for shared . Well, 1st i have great confidence in our National Security<\/a> enterprise, our institutions and our, our leaders, our uniformed military leaders from the chair of the joint chiefs all away down to the joint chiefs of staff, all our leaders. They will follow the law, they will protect the constitution regardless who sent the sector defenses, regardless who the president is. And they are school in how to do that if they jack to an order, whats the process . So im not too concerned about any of that. I think estrus comments are comments that should be taken seriously, and that matter of fact, mark s. For work for me in the senate. But i think in any secretary of defense would, would probably approach it the same way. Ask for again in ways what he said yesterday in those nos remarks, but i have confidence in our system, our people, the enterprise that will be ok regardless of who the president is. It might be messy, it could be messy, it could result in a constitutional crisis. But our military leaders are not going to lay the thing happened in this country. You know, one of the other things that occurs to me because cyber erekat, whom you knew well, has just died from coded. And so it puts, at least for a moment, you know, a spotlight back on the fact that nothing has been achieved in terms of the Palestinian Statehood<\/a> issue or, you know, autonomy issue in quite a long time. Do you think that is you is one that can just be ignored forever brushed under the rug . Or do you think, fundamentally, for stability in the region, a middle east, that palestine, israel problems got to be solved in a way that were not it, you know, attending to right now . Well, i think we are going to have to Pay Attention<\/a> to it. And obviously the last 4 years, we did everything to essentially just show it out of the way and make it more difficult and more complicated. But it, but its going to have to be dealt with. And if you just look at the middle east today, i think the middle east today is more volatile, more explosive, more out of balance, than we, weve seen, probably since the, the 1973 young to poor war. And thats dangerous, because you look at the centrally nonfunctioning governments in the middle east, syria, libya, yemen. Iraq still got deep problems. 11 on essentially has no government. Thats not going to get better. Thats not going to get better and i dont lay it all at the feet of the palestinian israeli issue. But it, but that is part of the larger framework of issues. And i think biden is always been a leader in this area. And hes always been smart about it and hes tough. And i, i would suspect hes going to probably dress this up in his 1st 4 years. Now its, i know every president sees it as a no win situation. Why would i want to get involved . Why would i want to do this . Why would i want to go there . But i dont think that you can walk away from the United States<\/a> has to take some responsibility in helping facilitate the agreement there. And my guess is that biden will do that. I think the priorities and his Strategic Thinking<\/a> and his Foreign Policy<\/a> as it develops is a i necessarily put the palestinian issue at the top. But i think its going to be on the agenda right now. Were presuming President Trump<\/a> does finally leave the white house. Reluctant as he may be. Do you think that your friends in the Republican Party<\/a> establishment are going to have an opportunity to do an autopsy of the party, or do you think the party where it is the base is firmly going to carry on with this. Trump, this track are there, is there a chance for folks like you and your ilk to come back and play a role in rebuilding and resuscitate ing the Republican Party<\/a> . Well, i know this is difficult for the trump supporters. I mean, after all, mr. Trump received over 71000000 voters support so i know its tough to lose and these, these people strongly support him. So right now its still inflammatory still. Busy charges of fraud didnt all the rest that we see every day playing out in lawsuits that well that will ease our stabilize once we get certification of a new president. And the confirmation of that, when the electors meet either in december 14th and then then we can move on. But, but to your point, i think the Republican Party<\/a> is going to have to take, a look at itself. What happened here, especially b. , you got the republicans actually picking out seats in the house. It appears theyve got a good shot at continuing to control the senate pending on the new georgia cities. But yet they lost an incumbent president by over 4000000. 00 votes. So what happened, i mean were on the wrong track. Theres another factor here that the republicans are going to look at. And thats demography. Look at texas, look what happened in georgia, arizona, nevada. Those demographic shifts are not in favor of republicans. Theyre moving toward the democrats and i remember when i was the lead sponsor of president george w. Bushs Immigration Reform<\/a> bill in the senate. And in fact, i took president bush out omar and we kicked off his Immigration Reform<\/a> initiative in south on i remember, i think it was 2004 in our tuesday Republican Caucus<\/a> luncheon. There was a big debate about it. Course it was a big debate about it. I remember kay, Bailey Hutchison<\/a>, senator kay, Bailey Hutchison<\/a> from texas got up and she said if the Republican Party<\/a> does not get right on Immigration Reform<\/a>, we will be a Minority Party<\/a> in texas in the not too distant future. Well, her word right through her words rain true. So Republican Party<\/a>s got some real soul searching to do and i think theyll have to go through that. I hope theyll go through that. I hope theyre right. Theyll bring in some other voices to take to take a look, but thats the only way you can understand what went wrong and what you have to do to get it right. And whats where, wheres the future going . Right. What a final question secretary hagel, i know that you have probably already written a letter to president elect biden. I know that preselect biden will if he hasnt already reached out to you by phone and talk to you, i just, i just know that to be true. What is that pop piece of advice you would offer a president like joe biden, coming into this role at this time in history. Whats the most important thing . Whats the north star . He has to have . Well, i would start with the north star, which in all my time around joe biden, and i know anyone who worked with him in different capacities for 25 years. Ive been all over the world, wouldnt been situations where leaders with him. Hes always, hes always stayed true to his north star. Thats where i would start. The other advice i would give him is and he knows this too, but we all need to be reminded. Sometimes its and listen, be inclusive. And in reach out. I think those are very important qualities in a president , and hes already said i intend to be a president for all americans. Republicans, democrats, and i believe he will do that, and he needs to stay true to that. And the humanity that joe biden represents the dignity the decency dont, dont ever allow that to go away. You are anchored by that decency and that dignity. And we need a new in clear infusion of dignity and decency in the white house. And i think that may may be his biggest challenge in the end, the biggest accomplishment that he can make in 4 years. If he can do that, he will have gone a long way in putting this country back on track and having confidence in each other and our institutions because a country cannot survive. If we lose confidence in our institutions, the very government institutions in our society that holds together, if that isnt there, were doomed. If he can do that, then i think along with other things that hell do, you know, had a very, very productive, successful, 4 years. And that be my advice. Well secretary, chuck hagel, thank you so much for spending time with us the day and sharing these thoughts. Thank you. Actually. So what is the bottom line . The genius of donald trump was the marquee leitz turn his back on the rest of the world, shout about how he was fighting for the hard working men and women of america, and pander to the fears of the white majority as us demographics keep shifting. This makes for a formula that almost won this election, and theres nothing indicate now that republicans are suddenly going to dump trump. In fact, the opposite seems true, as many senators and house members are trying to prove their loyalty to him out there by supporting the possibility that fraud gave the win to joe biden and stole it from trump. Even a President Joe Biden<\/a> will have to make compromises with trump ism, as part of his daily diet when he moves to the white house next january. And that the bottom line the us is deeply divided. Millions of americans feel disaffected and ignored by both Political Party<\/a> and the Political Class<\/a> is point scoring. The game is a dangerous game, but its a game of the sick list for kleins examines the political currents ripping through American Society<\/a> in a description for a novel, the publisher would send it back and say its too unbelievable. Trump versus biden, the race to the white house on a 23 year is, musson has collected objects he finds along the coast. Enough to fill his museum enough to break a Guinness World<\/a> record. With a story for every object. 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