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about. it seems like more and more often black and brown bodies are the ones that are being killed. >> you are in ferguson are on the front end of some of this movement as it evolved and grown and matured and here you are now in new york. i'm struck by just the visual differences. it's young people but the visual differences between what we saw on the streets in ferguson and now what we see in new york. what do you think the key difference is? >> i think ferguson is a special kind of racism. it's unchecked. there's no checks and balances. there's no accountability and transparency and it's been going on for years. it's a place where when martin luther king came, they didn't let him speak. it's a place where the scott case -- all of those things have never even been reexamined. so we have to live under that constant racial scrutiny all the time even when voting. we have officers sitting out in voting polls. people go to pick up their kids,