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Where west ham have comfortably beaten freiburg to reach the last eight of the competition. West ham put themselves 2 0 up at half time, to take a 2 1 lead on aggregate in the tie, but went on to win 5 0, Mohamed Kudus with a brace, to win the tie 5 1. It means david moyes has led the team to a european quarter final for the third year in a row. Elsewhere, rangers are out after being beaten 1 0 on the night by benfica at ibrox. While liverpool scored four in the opening 15 minutes against Sparta Prague they won the first leg 5 1 rememeber, so safe to say theyll be in the next round. Brighton dont look likely to bejoining them, 4 0 down against roma from the first leg. It is goalless there. And Bayer Leverkusen Versus Karabec is also goalless. In the europa conference league, aston villa v ajax. Ollie watkins escort for aston villa and i can tell you as well Ollie Watkins has just gone off injured but aston villa are leading i o. Rory mcilroy has had a great start to the players championship in florida. Mcilroy is in a share of the lead after his opening round on seven under par. He hit his tenth birdie of the day at the last hole to join Xander Schauffele in first place. Canadas nick taylor is a shot behind them on six under. The Afternoon Groupings are all out on the course and you can follow that and all the days sport on the bbc sport website, that is it for me from the moment. A uk Government Spokesperson has confirmed that a Royal Air Force Plane Carrying the defence secretary grant shapps had its signaljammed as it flew near the russian territory of kaliningrad this week. This image, released by the ministry of defence, shows mr schapps on the plane during the journey in question. The electronic interference is understood to have happened on wednesday evening. Mobile phones could no longer connect to the internet and the aircraft was forced to use alternative methods to determine its location. The uk government says it isnt unusual for aircraft to experience this when flying near the russian territory. Heres our Diplomatic Correspondent paul adams. Can we start with the significance of the place they were, kaliningrad, the most Westerly Point On Russian Territory was to mark its important to look at the map because. Its to look at the map because. Its important to look at the map because. Its important to to look at the map because. It� s important to look at the map because kaliningrad is what it is all about, the Plane Carrying grant shapps and a Small Company parted took off from any polish airfield a short distance south of that, an area of russia the colleton exclusive, a fragment of russia separated from the rest of russia, as you can see, by belarus and lithuania. It is an area of great strategic importance, part of russias axis of the baltic see and it is an area thought to be home of some of russias Nuclear Missiles and let us not forget what is happening in the last 12 months. Sweden and finland have both become members of nato, turning the Baltic Into A Neato back yard, so kaliningrad becomes even more significant for the russians and it is thought that they have significant Electronic Warfare capabilities stationed in kaliningrad as part of air defence measures designed to protect them against any incoming threats they would perceive from nato. And grant shapps a month to complete the picture, was returning from the airfield close to the border from one of the largest nato exercises to take place in recent years, so i think that is the context in which this episode took place. It is part of a wider pattern of russian electronic interference in notjust military traffic, and this was kind of a hybrid, the plane was at raf plane but it was a corporate jet, but the russians are using this kind of mechanism to interfere with military and commercial traffic, both in the air and at sea. That is a cause of concern. To both in the air and at sea. That is a cause of concern. Both in the air and at sea. That is a cause of concern. To protect their assets. A cause of concern. To protect their assets 50. A cause of concern. To protect their assets 50. It a cause of concern. To protect their assets. So, it would a cause of concern. To protect their assets. So, it would be a cause of concern. To protect their assets. So, it would be a a cause of concern. To protect their assets. So, it would be a routine i assets. So, it would be a routine procedure and theres suggestion they would know the defence secretary was on board. Im they would know the defence secretary was on board. Im quite sure they knew secretary was on board. Im quite sure they knew the secretary was on board. Im quite sure they knew the defence secretary was on board. Im quite sure they knew the defence secretary was on board and maybe they felt missing her around with his light in not albeit harmless way would cause some irritation, that was for them to the good, but again this was a flight coming in re flight, close to kaliningrad in an environment in which the russians are not routine any using Electronic Warfare to mess with commercial and military flights. Its also a mechanism, a tactic, they are using to great effect in ukraine. Part of their ability to turn the tide of the word there. Electronic warfare, the ability to jam the signals both for manned aircraft and drones and all manner of weaponry, is a key part of modern warfare. Manner of weaponry, is a key part of modern warfare. Thank you very much, paul modern warfare. Thank you very much, paul, all is well modern warfare. Thank you very much, paul, all is well that modern warfare. Thank you very much, paul, all is well that ends modern warfare. Thank you very much, paul, all is well that ends well modern warfare. Thank you very much, paul, all is well that ends well but paul, all is well that ends well but clearly slightly unnerving if all the instruments went off and you are flying at 35,000 feet, anyway the defence secretary is back safely. A former lieutenant with east germanys secret police, the stasi, has gone on trial in germany, for allegedly shooting dead a polish man who attempted to flee to west berlin nearly 50 years ago. The 80 year old, whose name has not been officially confirmed, denied charges of murder in court today. The shooting was witnessed by a school group from west germany one of the pupils who was then in her mid teens is set to testify. The incident happened nearly 50 years ago, its come to trial in part because of new findings from the stasi archives including a medal which the defendant appears to have been awarded for his role in the suspected killing. Lets speak to katja hoyer, a german british historian and author of this weeks sunday times bestselling novel, beyond the wall. A book about east germanys history from 1949 1990. Thank you for being with us. This polish man, he was shot as he tried to escape from east berlin, and apparently had been to the bullish embassy in east berlin that day and thought he was set to go, so what happened . Thought he was set to go, so what ha ened . N. Thought he was set to go, so what hauened . , thought he was set to go, so what happened . Thought he was set to go, so what hauened . ,. , happened . According to the stasi on files, he happened . According to the stasi on files. He was happened . According to the stasi on files, he was alleged happened . According to the stasi on files, he was alleged to happened . According to the stasi on files, he was alleged to have files, he was alleged to have carried a fake bomb, basically, and threaten to ignite that unless he was allowed passage into west berlin, so a plan was made behind the scenes to pretend to let him go on it for the stasi to go and assassinated, or thats the case made by the prosecution currently. How did they track down the man who is on trial and how much work is going into the stasi archive . That was art going into the stasi archive . That was part of going into the stasi archive . That was part of the going into the stasi archive . T� isgt was part of the problem which is why it is taking 50 years, the stasi left lots of files about which you can imagine, one of the most efficient Surveillance States in history, so there are still about 70 miles or so of files, historians have direct through, and it was quite a task to find this man in the first place and piecing together the different parts of that story, including in the polish archives as well but since the victim was actually polish, so it took a white for historians to find out who this man was so that now he could be put on trial, even though he is now 70 night years old and 50 years apart. When we talk about the Second World War crimes that are investigated, lots of those who would be involved are now dead and would never have justice, but the stasi it was around much later after the Second World War, so do you suspect the more they go through these files we will get more cases like this . Part go through these files we will get more cases like this . More cases like this . Part of the roblem more cases like this . Part of the problem isnt more cases like this . Part of the problem isnt dissimilar more cases like this . Part of the problem isnt dissimilar because | problem isnt dissimilar because some of the people here were already dead, for example the deputy boss of the stasi who wouldve approved this killing according to the file and those findings actually died during the gdr era, even before the berlin wall came down, so he cannot be charged, and so the problem is the same but there are more people left. I think there was a bit of a sense there would be a cutoff point for there would be a cutoff point for the last big trials of those finish about ten years ago or so, with the last border killings being investigated, and this is a rare example of a big case that is only now coming to light. Example of a big case that is only now coming to light. Thank you for cominu in now coming to light. Thank you for coming in the now coming to light. Thank you for coming in the programme, now coming to light. Thank you for coming in the programme, katja. Coming in the programme, katja hoyer. Around the world and across the uk. This is bbc news. Hi, im nellie, im 11 years old and im from lincoln. Ive just done the english championships and in few weeks time, ive got the british championships, which is quite big for me. Yeah, its just exciting. Hi, imjojo, im13 and im from lincoln. It feels like youre flying and you just feel so much better. Hi, im lexie, im13l and im from lincoln. You just get to do flips and its amazing how fun it is. Its satisfying to know all the hours of hard work theyve put in actually comes to fruition. Weve got three qualified this year, hopefully, we can keep that going. Youre live with bbc news. You are watching the context. It is time for our our new minted segment ai decoded. Welcome to ai decoded, it is the time of the week when we dig deep into some of the most eye catching stories in the world of artificial intellligence. We begin this week with this from tech radar and a stunning achievement in humanoid robotic development. Open ai and the start up Robotics Firm figure ai have released a video this week demonstrating the real Sci Fi Capabilities of a new visual language model, and well be showing you the clip in just a minutes time the medical x press details how ai is being used to detect Heart Defects in newborns. The model they have developed gives the correct diagnosis in 80 to 90 of cases. Fortune says Artificial Intelligence is supercharging the threat of election disinformation worldwide, making it easy for anyone with a smartphone to create fake but convincing content, aimed at fooling voters. The mirror says russia is already using ai deepfakes to spread chaos in third countries, a significant threat says a new Us Intelligence report to the 2024 election. The intercept reports there is now a network ai powered autonomous surveillance towers. 1,000 of them have been put up along americas southern borders, a system that gives Border Guards a unified vision of unauthorised movement. And finally in the guardian, what does the eus new ai bill mean for us the consumers . Well give you the low down later in the programme. Sitting alongside tonight our ai commentator and Technology Author stephanie hare. Fresh back from paris, nice to see you. Lets start with the glimpse of the future that is already here, quite fascinated. A pretty remarkable example of the promise of Artificial Intelligence, lets take a look. I see a red apple on a plate in the centre of the table, a drying rack with cups and a plate, and you standing nearby with your hand on the table. Great. Can i have something to eat . Sure thing. Great. Can you explain why you did what you just did while you pick up this trash . On it. So i gave you the apple because its the only edible item i could provide you with from the table. Great. So based on the scene right now, where do you think the dishes in front of you go next . The dishes on the table like that plate and cup are likely to go into the drying rack next. Great. Can you put them there . Of course. Remarkable, isnt it . Everything i have been showing so far in the world of ai, the avatars i have seen which are on screen, they are instructed by text, the difference with this is that it is seeing and tasting and feeling its environment which blows my mind. I tasting and feeling its environment which blows my mind. Which blows my mind. I thought it was fascinating which blows my mind. I thought it was fascinating that which blows my mind. I thought it was fascinating that the which blows my mind. I thought it was fascinating that the voice, which blows my mind. I thought it was fascinating that the voice, a l was fascinating that the voice, a fake voice probably taken from real samples but melded together, but it had a vocal fight, samples but melded together, but it had a vocalfight, i often have samples but melded together, but it had a vocal fight, i often have that because i have asthma and after cough a lot, is not a pure tone but sounds hoarse, they even put that into make it sound like a real human, which is crazy. Into make it sound like a real human, which is crazy. I was in last week that one human, which is crazy. I was in last week that one thing human, which is crazy. I was in last week that one thing that human, which is crazy. I was in last week that one thing that was said l week that one thing that was said to me with someone who interacted with these models is that they feel empathy, and that is why they feel empathy, and that is why they feel empathy because the voices colloquial, as you say, it feels real, theres a slight drag and pause as it processes, but as it gets quicker, it would be the sort of thing some people prefer to hang out with. Of thing some people prefer to hang outwith. Its of thing some people prefer to hang out with. V. , of thing some people prefer to hang out with. � ,. Out with. Its an ethical question in terms of out with. Its an ethical question in terms of how out with. Its an ethical question in terms of how we out with. Its an ethical question in terms of how we design out with. Its an ethical question in terms of how we design this | in terms of how we design this robot, its a choice to make it look and sound and feel human, he doesnt have to be that way. We could design robust to be explicitly not human, other, so why they have taken someones voice, and even the accents and the grammar, is specific to the United States west coast, and the robot goes on its, and very american way of speaking which wouldnt translate globally, so im sure what you can do is i would speak with a french accent or in mentoring and do exactly that thing, to make you feel a connection to it. All of that is manipulative as well. Its called artificial general intelligence, to explain the technicals the people, normally we talk about text to speech, this is speech to speech, so as well as seeing its environment, it is able to process a bit like alexa in our kitchens, it is able to process what you are saying. Kitchens, it is able to process what you are saying kitchens, it is able to process what you are saying. Yes, i noticed even watchin you are saying. Yes, i noticed even watching it you are saying. Yes, i noticed even watching it again, you are saying. Yes, i noticed even watching it again, these you are saying. Yes, i noticed even watching it again, these are you are saying. Yes, i noticed even watching it again, these are quite i watching it again, these are quite long pauses between the Human Interrogator and the robot and the human is given really clear and short and specific instructions, so with that work well in the real world context where people are asking a robot to do something do it like human beings sometimes ask a question not clearly and get angry or frustrated with each other, how would that work . It is great, the potential is clearly there and you can imagine what would that would mean if we get the robots up and running with minimal length time, could they replace humans in certain jobs postop of course, to take that on a peg, obviously the database is growing and it is also with write and rewrite its own code so as it makes mistakes it will learn and develop. Makes mistakes it will learn and develo. � , makes mistakes it will learn and develo. � ,. , makes mistakes it will learn and develo. � ,. , develop. And his language patterns will crow develop. And his language patterns will grow and develop. And his language patterns will grow and evolve. Develop. And his language patterns will grow and evolve. It develop. And his language patterns will grow and evolve. It almost will grow and evolve. It almost reminds me will grow and evolve. It almost reminds me of will grow and evolve. It almost reminds me of how will grow and evolve. It almost reminds me of how children i will grow and evolve. It almost i reminds me of how children learn language and study from those around them, its learning from us, as with all machines. If} them, its learning from us, as with all machines them, its learning from us, as with all machines. ; ,. ,. ,. , all machines. 30 years from now when im a all machines. 30 years from now when im a pensioner. All machines. 30 years from now when im a pensioner, it all machines. 30 years from now when im a pensioner, it will all machines. 30 years from now when im a pensioner, it will be all machines. 30 years from now when im a pensioner, it will be putting i im a pensioner, it will be putting me to bed, i can already see it. Maybe that is the solution to our social care programmes. Talking of which, i have chosen the story tonight because im conscious, there are a flood of stories that we were the people tonight, but there is so much good in Artificial Intelligence and there is a good example here, it cant affect Heart Defects in newborns which is important because primary hypertension, if you catch it early and treated, then the prognosis is good. This it early and treated, then the prognosis is good. It early and treated, then the prognosis is good. This is a classic case of ai being prognosis is good. This is a classic case of ai being good, prognosis is good. This is a classic case of ai being good, is case of ai being good, is health care, youre looking at patterns and spotting anomalies or things that are good, and to reach reassure everyone, it would always be a human doctor making a final called client this is a tool to help them diagnose better. The percentages on some of them, the correct Night Diagnoses and some for 80 to 90 cases, that is good, able to detect diseases and certain chances, maybe you dont want to bet the farm on it but always had the by human intervention, and it shows how it is making the decisions and it was short the doctor its work and what to check. And learning from that overtime should make it better. Thinking of how many children go to hospital with holes in heart and only find about them later in life, it took 92 newborns, hundreds of Video Recordings from different angles as well as diagnosis by experienced paediatric doctors and 80 to 90 is extraordinary we have a Senate Intelligence briefing this week, the director of National Intelligence was talking about the threat that eia poses two elections in the super election year. Think of around 50 of the world is going into elections. How will ai affect what we hold so dear . Into elections. How will ai affect what we hold so dear . What we saw a coule of what we hold so dear . What we saw a couple of years what we hold so dear . What we saw a couple of years ago what we hold so dear . What we saw a couple of years ago with what we hold so dear . What we saw a couple of years ago with the what we hold so dear . What we saw a couple of years ago with the royal couple of years ago with the royal of insight with spreading with social media with spreading misinformation, but what we are seeing now is different, it is called deep fix, so illegitimate many position and Video Manipulation with good quality and one that is difficult to detect is audio, which in that case it might be a call that rings you. People are less under guard about that, and until recently, thats of the image and video defects you could kind of tell it wasnt quite right and something off, but is getting her better and better all the time, and he are people who believe whatever they see on facebook, though they have been given plenty of evidence not to, but it would be a real Public Health Education Campaign we would all have to do to be like how do we instill the Critical Skills people need to access this and it becomes a question of who is the arbiter of truth. ,. , question of who is the arbiter of truth. ,. ,. , � ~. , truth. The cost of it, i dont know if eole truth. The cost of it, i dont know if people followed truth. The cost of it, i dont know if people followed the truth. The cost of it, i dont know if people followed the el truth. The cost of it, i dont know if people followed the el robo i truth. The cost of it, i dont know| if people followed the el robo call in New Hampshire to conclusion, the guy behind it was a democrat and spent 150 getting an artist to do an impersonation ofjoe biden, and there was £5 million 5 million of investigation and resourcing was put into it, just to deal with one called, which shows how big the problem is. He called, which shows how big the problem is problem is. He said he did it to initiate the problem is. He said he did it to initiate the risk problem is. He said he did it to initiate the risk of problem is. He said he did it to initiate the risk of using problem is. He said he did it to initiate the risk of using ai, i problem is. He said he did it to initiate the risk of using ai, so | problem is. He said he did it to i initiate the risk of using ai, so he was trying to prove a point. That was trying to prove a point. That was his defence. Was trying to prove a point. That was his defence. And was trying to prove a point. That was his defence. And then the mirror sorry about Russian Hackers and what they are able to do with the ai deep fix, i rememberthe they are able to do with the ai deep fix, i remember the special counsel investigation russian interference investigation russian interference in 2016, the find was that there was a farm in moscow pumping out all these bots and now you can presumably do all of this much more cheaply and with fewer people will stop this thing is, when i was in paris. ~. , stop this thing is, when i was in paris. ~. ,. ,. , stop this thing is, when i was in paris. ,. ,. Paris. When i was in paris, i read a book called paris. When i was in paris, i read a book called the paris. When i was in paris, i read a book called the wizard paris. When i was in paris, i read a book called the wizard of paris. When i was in paris, i read a book called the wizard of coming, l paris. When i was in paris, i read a| book called the wizard of coming, it was wonderful, i recommended, because it was all about how putin came through the ranks and one of his top Media Advisers who has a background in theatre, the bbc has done a show on him, the goal in Election Interference is not to change the mind on how to vote, it is to undermine your trust in the entire process, so you do not know what to believe, what is fact or fake and was as a point of origin, who cares, thats how you undermine marcus e. Who cares, thats how you undermine marcus e. � , who cares, thats how you undermine marcus e. � ,. ~ marcus e. Democracy. Lets talk about the marcus e. Democracy. Lets talk about the towers marcus e. Democracy. Lets talk about the towers along marcus e. Democracy. Lets talk about the towers along the marcus e. Democracy. Lets talkj about the towers along the border, such a big issue, illegal immigration on the us border. Immigration is a big issue in a lot of countries, i dont want to particularly cut the size the unit does this for this but on the southern border in particular and also the northern border also weaker and in lots of cases many people get in, which upsets people for many reasons, so what to do . It is expensive hiring humans to patrol these use countries so instead invest billions of dollars, slip it into the home and Security Budget and build up machines that are surveying and hopefully in a unified way, the aim, starting with the two land borders and eventually the pacific and atlantic as well. The question is, does It Work Question Mark it might not and might be a massive waste of taxpayer money because weve invested in similar systems before. But if it does work, what does it mean . Less of people are fleeing these countries and coming to the United States because its the only option they have, i know its not politically correct for some people but there is a human rights as item piece and also a danger in crossing the borders. I dont know if this is the solution. Just quickly the thoughts on al and the bill put in place. [30 just quickly the thoughts on al and the bill put in place. The bill put in place. Do you think its a great the bill put in place. Do you think its a great thing, the bill put in place. Do you think its a great thing, its the bill put in place. Do you think its a great thing, its good i the bill put in place. Do you think its a great thing, its good but i its a great thing, its good but not the end, its a good start. We have Landmark Legislation which helps consumers and such a level Playing Field in the european union, the higher the risk, the greater regulation, it will not affect most people but where does like predictive policing, social scoring and real time facial technology are banned, and a few exceptions for Law Enforcement in light terrorism, which youd want, but otherwise, a good start. We which youd want, but otherwise, a good start which youd want, but otherwise, a aood start. ~. ,. ,. Good start. We got through them all, but a really good good start. We got through them all, but a really good analysis good start. We got through them all, but a really good analysis for but a really good analysis for all his theories around on al, hope you join us next time next week, thank you stephanie, well be back on the other side of break, our panel will be here. Hello. Whilst many of us did have a lot of cloud and showery rain on thursday, not everywhere. We had some welcome drier and brighter weather across parts of the south east of england, east anglia, too. This was the picture in suffolk. I think over the next couple of days, were still staying unsettled, though. So, through the day tomorrow, for friday, showery rain for some of us. Still quite mild, particularly towards the south, slightly cooler air across the northern half of the uk. You can see the blue colours here, but the yellows and orange still with us further south and quite a few different Weather Fronts just drifting their way slowly eastwards. So, showery rain for this evening and tonight across much of scotland, a few showers for Northern Ireland, northern england, too. Further south, some clearer spells, bit of a Breeze Blowing in later in the night. The next rash of heavy showers will work into wales, Southern England as well. Now, with the breeze, cloud and showers around, its going to be a mild night 10 11 in the south. Further north, could just see A Touch Of Frost in the most prone spots for scotland, but i think generally, theres going to be too much cloud and those outbreaks of rain. Tomorrow, even a little bit of snow over the very highest mountains. An improvement in the weather for parts of Northern Ireland, into wales as well, certainly compared to today, but there will be a rash of sunshine and showers just drifting eastwards across england and wales through the day. So a really hit and miss day not as wet as thursday across scotland. Still looking at 15 degrees down towards the south east and east anglia, but single figures further north. Now, its through friday evening and overnight into saturday that most of the showers clear away, and under these clearer skies, its going to be a cold night. Were likely to see a bit of frost across scotland, Northern Ireland and northern england. Temperatures in the towns and cities here close to freezing, but in the countryside, it could be 3 or 4. So, a bit of frost and some mist and fog patches here and there to start your day on saturday. Then more cloud rolls in from the south west, throwing a few blustery showers into Northern Ireland, perhaps wales and south west england, whereas further north and east, youre more likely to stick with the sunnier spells for longer. So, 8 13 degrees, so a touch down perhaps on what weve seen on thursday certainly. But as we head towards the second half of the weekend, weve still got a few Weather Fronts with us into sunday, so a bit of rain, i think, initially for eastern areas. That should clear away fairly quickly. Therell be more showers working in from the west later in the day, but i think in between, with the southerly breeze and some sunshine, shouldnt feel too bad. And temperatures more widely across the board in those mid teens, around 14 16 for most of us. Bye bye. Hello, im christian fraser. Youre watching the context on bbc news. A fresher and this will, europes credibility a fresher and this will, europes credibility will be reduced to zero. If credibility will be reduced to zero. If russia we will be waiting and dying with our troops on a battlefield in europe if we fail to give ukraine what it needs because putin will keep going. Translation what is happening in the west now isjust frenzy. I they say they have no right to let ukraine lose and russia win. The more furiously the west begins to speak out, the worse things happen at the fighting front. Finally back with a programme. on our panel tonight is Nathalie Tocci the Director Institute for International Affairs in rome and joe walsh former republican president ial candidate and host of the � white flag podcast. Will get