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BBCNEWS The July 3, 2024

Were infected with hepatitis c and hiv after being given contaminated Blood Products and transfusions between the 1970s and � 90s. The high court in london has, at least for now, blocked the extradition of the wikileaks founder, Julian Assange, to the United States. It granted him permission to appeal against the order that he should stand trial for leaking military secrets that endangered lives. Donald trumps one time lawyer is today finishing his testimony at the former president s Hush Money Trial in new york. Michael cohen has been a witness for the prosecutors, who hope to establish that mr trump knew about the payments to buy the silence of the adult film star Stormy Daniels and efforts to cover them up. Good evening. The chief prosecutor for the International Criminal court, karim khan, is seeking Arrest Warrants for Benjamin Netanyahu and yahya sinwar, the hamas leader, on charges of war crimes and crimes against humanity. He is also issued separate warrants for yoav gallant, the Israeli Defence minister, and two other top hamas leaders. The decision ultimately will rest with the court pre trial chamber, a Panel Ofjudges that will decide in the coming months, whether there is enough evidence to support warrants. Notably, his list does not include any Israel Defense forces officials, for now. The warrants are focused solely on the political decision makers. The charges he is seeking against mr netanyahu and mr gallant include starvation used as a method of war against civilians and wilful killing intentionally directing attacks against a civilian population as a war crime. The Arrest Warrants for three leaders of hamas include charges of murder, on october 7th, the taking of hostages, mr khan said he was acting on the recommendation of an expert panel who had looked at the evidence gathered. Lets take a listen to what the prosecutor had to say. | translation its alleged that these i crimes were committed in the context of the ongoing Armed Conflict and as part of a widespread and systematic attack against the civilian population of gaza pursuant to a state policy. Unfortunately, these crimes continue to this day. My office submits that these individuals, through a common plan, have systematically deprived the civilian population of gaza of objects indispensable to human survival. The Arrest Warrants for three leaders of hamas include charges of murder, on october 7th, the taking of hostages, rape and other acts of Sexual Violence used as crimes against humanity, and also as war crimes in the context of captivity. And in the last hour, the israeli Prime Minister released a video statement. The outrageous decision by the icc prosecutor karim khan to seek Arrest Warrants against the democratically elected leaders of israel is a moral outrage of historic proportions. It will cast an everlasting mark of shame on the International Court. Israel is waging a just war against hamas, a genocidal terrorist organization that perpetrated the worst attack on the jewish people since the holocaust. Just for clarity i should remind you the icc, the International Criminal court, is nothing to do with the icj, the International Court ofjustice, even though they both sit in the hague. The icj is part of the un, its a civil court, it is there to resolve disputes between states. That is the one hearing the South African Genocide Case against israel. The icc, quite separately, is a criminal court with jurisdiction over individuals in states that have ratified the rome statute which established it. Great to have you on the great to have you on the programme, great to have you on the programme, susan. Can we talk about the statement the secretary blinken gave today saying, he will do nothing to help and it could jeopardise ongoing efforts to reach a Cease Fire Agreement that would get hostages out and search humanitarian assistance in. We have heard from guests in the last hour who said two things about that, one is that they think that karim con has pressed these warrants not because the situation on the ground is not getting any better and that undermines that argument. The second is we have heard from our correspondent who said that it is always difficult to find a balance between the legal side in the search for peace and this is always been a problem with the icc, i wonder what you make of that. fit problem with the icc, i wonder what you make of that. You make of that. Of course great concern in you make of that. Of course great concern in the you make of that. Of course great concern in the united you make of that. Of course great concern in the United States you make of that. Of course great concern in the United States but l concern in the United States but what is happening in gaza and to sympathy and outrage for what is happening to palestinians there, the palestinian civilians. But the icc has managed to do something that has been difficult in recent days which is getting the Us Government directly behind netanyahu. President biden has become increasingly critical of netanyahu has he has been unyielding in the prosecution in this war but he put out a Statement Today using the same words that netanyahu would use calling it outrages to bring these Arrest Warrants against the is involved the statement did not mention hamas warrants with Arrest Warrants against them. I think the us believes this makes things tougher, it has been hard enough to get israel to compromise as it takes steps that make it more likely for it to come to a cease fire, and release hostages that are still alive. And that this is a complication. It also, by the way, helps undermine support for the icc and congress will stop the us is not and congress will stop the us is not a member of the icc and you heard an enormous criticism of this action today on capitol hill. This enormous criticism of this action today on capitol hill. Today on capitol hill. This is the real issue. Today on capitol hill. This is the real issue, kim, today on capitol hill. This is the real issue, kim, that today on capitol hill. This is the real issue, kim, that there today on capitol hill. This is the real issue, kim, that there is i today on capitol hill. This is the | real issue, kim, that there is an enormous political pressure right now on the icc and when you look at the allies that israel has in the west, obviously the United States is not a signatory to the icc but the uk definitely is. Downing street said today that this will do nothing to help reach a pause in the fighting, but there has been a row in the comments this evening because the shadow foreign secretary david lammy has questioned whether they should be undermining what he called, a cornerstone of the International Legal system. It is going to put the British Government in a tight spot at these warrants are upheld. It in a tight spot at these warrants are upheld are upheld. It absolutely is. Remember. Are upheld. It absolutely is. Remember, far are upheld. It absolutely is. Remember, far from are upheld. It absolutely is. L remember, far from ducking are upheld. It absolutely is. Remember, far from ducking out of support remember, far from ducking out of surmort for remember, far from ducking out of support for the icc, we were strong permits support for the icc, we were strong permits of support for the icc, we were strong permits of it when it was setup. It has suited permits of it when it was setup. It has suited us quite well for example when has suited us quite well for example when it has suited us quite well for example when it was has suited us quite well for example when it was going after some of the leaders when it was going after some of the leaders in when it was going after some of the leaders in serbia and croatia during the wars leaders in serbia and croatia during the wars in leaders in serbia and croatia during the wars in the balkans in the 1990s the wars in the balkans in the i990s~ 50 the wars in the balkans in the 19905. So at that time we were all behind 19905. So at that time we were all behind it 19905. So at that time we were all behind it. But it was inevitable at some behind it. But it was inevitable at some point that the icc would do something that did not suit us. Understand, completely white number ten i5 understand, completely white number ten is saying that this is unhelpful. It is unhelpful in terms of the unhelpful. It is unhelpful in terms of the timing. If there is still a potential of the timing. If there is still a potential for a cease fire and some exchange potential for a cease fire and some exchange of hostages going on. But it has exchange of hostages going on. But it has been exchange of hostages going on. But it has been coming, this kind of thing it has been coming, this kind of thing. There is a lot of people in the International Legal community, notiust the International Legal community, Notjust British the International Legal community, not just british lawyers, the International Legal community, Notjust British lawyers, but other respected Notjust British lawyers, but other respected International Lawyers who had been respected International Lawyers who had been election that both sides of the work had been election that both sides of the Work Committee in gaza. War crimes the Work Committee in gaza. War crimes committed in gaza. This has been crimes committed in gaza. This has been written in the stars. Let crimes committed in gaza. This has been written in the stars. Been written in the stars. Let me ut u been written in the stars. Let me put up the been written in the stars. Let me put up the conservative been written in the stars. Let me put up the conservative writer. Been written in the stars. Let me put up the conservative writer on j put up the conservative writer on twitter weighing in of israel saying. Which is, to what you were speaking aboutjust now, susan. Is the support, the Quick Support that came from the Secretary Of State and the president today political in an Election Year . Election year . Everything is olitical Election Year . Everything is political in Election Year . Everything is political in an Election Year . Everything is political in an election Election Year . Everything is political in an Election Year. Election year . Everything is. Political in an Election Year. I dont think that is the question. Here is what struck me today and the reaction on capitol hill, a cam not only from conservative republicans who have long not supported the icc, it came from some democrats as well who are among the strong supporters, John Federman for example the senatorfrom pennsylvania. That is John Federman for example the senator from pennsylvania. That is a warning flag for supporters of the International Criminal court. For what might be ahead. The United States, is not a signatory to the icc, so its not like something can be done about that, but they could be done about that, but they could be us sanctions against icc officials or other steps taken that would lead us to controversies that do nothing to help solve or ease the situation we see happening in israel and gaza. Just situation we see happening in israel and gaza. , ,. , and gaza. Just in terms of the timin , and gaza. Just in terms of the timing. And and gaza. Just in terms of the timing, and it and gaza. 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There is sort of action, not to criticise the icc, there is a british lawyer on the councii icc, there is a british lawyer on the council will have made a judgment and it will be remain to seeing judgment and it will be remain to seeing whether that will be endorsed by the seeing whether that will be endorsed by the leadership of the icc, but this well, by the leadership of the icc, but this well, i by the leadership of the icc, but this well, i think put pressure on the members of the israeli war cabinet the members of the israeli war cabinet who are publicly criticising netanyahus leadership and the lack of planning for the phase after war. Put pressure on them to come into line because this will be seen as an attack line because this will be seen as an attack on line because this will be seen as an attack on israel as a whole. So in that sense, attack on israel as a whole. So in that sense, i attack on israel as a whole. So in that sense, i think it is also unhelpful. Irans Supreme Leader has called for five days of mourning following the death of the president and foreign minister. The hardline president , who was seen as an outsider to succeed khamenei once the 85 year old passed away, was killed on sunday when his helicopter crashed into a mountain as he returned from a visit to azerbaijan. Their bodies have since been recovered from the crash site. Its thought another seven people were on the helicopter, which came down in thick fog and rain. Throughout the day, iranian people have been gathering in the main squares of tehran carrying pictures of the late president. Although there are plenty of messages online in which the opponents of the regime are celebrating. An election to find a successor to president raisi will take place within the next 50 days. Raisis death is not expected to disrupt the direction of irans Foreign Policy orjolt the Islamic Republic in any consequential way. And already in line with protocol, mr raisis deputy Mohammad Mokhbar has been appointed as the interim president. I always thinks when there is instability in iran that means more pressure, what did you make of the speed of which they acknowledge the death of the president and the replacement that was brought into takeover. Ihla replacement that was brought into takeover. , ,. , takeover. No suggesting that the us was behind the takeover. No suggesting that the us was behind the helicopter takeover. No suggesting that the us was behind the helicopter attack, i was behind the helicopter attack, that was a relief. For quite a catastrophic event, the United States us officials ive heard from today do not seem to think this will be a very consequential one. They dont think it will change policy in iran. It is hard, the United States in iran, very much, and although not without some contact with one another behind the scenes, i was struck particularly since the October The 7th attack in israel how iran behind the scenes has tried to make the case to the us that it does not want a wider war in the region. So us officials seem to think that this is a great disaster for iran, it may cause a period of some instability, but maybe not much change when it comes to its relations with the United States and the rest of the world. I relations with the United States and the rest of the world. The r

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