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paula, i don't know how you feel when you hear a prime minister say, having heard what you are going through, the plan is working, it's right. —— it's all all right. i meet so many people who are struggling with their bills and the prime minister keeps saying — he lives in a different world. listen to this exchange on the nhs waiting list where the audience laughed at the prime minister. we are making progress and the waiting list sucked me down but what keir starmer didn't mention, which you did. this is a guy who said he's good at maths. , ., ., . ., this is a guy who said he's good at maths. , . ., . ., ., 7.2 million when you said you'd get them down, now 7.5 million. they are coming down from where they were when they were higher. laughter and both offered direct answers to this question. if you had loved ones on a long waiting list for surgery, if you thought it was the only way forward to use private health care,