We will talk about the potential threats to National Security. No refunds. Airlines may be refunding customers, but many airbnb customers may be out of luck. We have the details. We begin with the volatile state of the Global Economy as the coronavirus widens. Italy went into lockdown and u. S. Virus cases spiked. The dow jones entered a bear market wednesday, the s p tumbling into their market into bear market territory after President Trump announced a ban on travel from europe. To keep new cases from entering our shores, we will be suspending all travel from europe to the United States for the next 30 days. The new rules will go into effect friday at midnight. That talkedch, about how much companies would lose on the downturn and uber and lyft shares fell on the reality that customers are sheltering in place. Wednesday i asked Wedbush Securities dan ives for his take on the volatility. Dan you need to put goal post around in terms of demand. When i look at the core names, a lot of the faang names, to me, we continue to believe these are buying opportunities and you navigate the volatility. Whatw it as you look upon in normalized environment will be, even if you stress test the models in terms of the economic hereto down take, right you by apple and you by , microsoft. Lyft areer and down and these are names you think might benefit people dont want to take public transport. How bad is it for them . Dan you have to look at the separate risk profile. I look at names like microsoft, apple, some of the cloud. These are names that are golden opportunities. Lyftyou look at uber and guilty until proven innocent , stocks that will continue to punched across the board. They came out and said it they have not seen any changes. Property will still be there. Still very volatile names. I still like them longterm, but in the near term, theres no floor in terms of the stoxx. Emily is there any specific name you are particularly worried about . We can look out the june, out to the fall, but we do not know what is going to be happening at that point. Dan look, that is why i think when you look at security, cybersecurity, you have to separate out some of what i view as the nonessential purchases, versus what you need to spend on. When i look at names in cybersecurity, those names are in a stress test model. You look at nonessential purchases, especially these private companies that are going to struggle, i think it will form what i believe will be a surge of m a across cloud and tech over the next three to six months given some valuations we are seeing. Emily where are we going to see that m a . Are people going to be making big buys right now . Dan i firmly believe if we sit here four to six weeks from now we have already seen a handful of m a. In terms of corporate look at , microsoft, google, gcp, ibm, you go across the board, adobe. Right now, they are continuing to look to expand their cloud empire. If you look at the private and public side, a lot of these stocks that are down 30 , 40 , 50 . Look at the valuations. That is why i believe strategic as well as financial buyers are going to put in the floor of software over the coming months. Emily dan ives there. According to bloomberg, the impact the coronavirus on advertising demand could drive first half revenue losses of over 3 billion for google. 2 billion for facebook. Despite the frenzy to by Hand Sanitizer and bleach wipes online, even amazon profit estimates are at risk. We look at it from two lenses. One is the impact see on the sector in january and february was none. Impact chinese internet saw we are going to see a , greater effect in q2. From how hard travel was hit in general. That takes a chunk out of that, but if you look countryspecific. What does the italian quarantine mean for the countries. How much revenue is the drive . As these concerns spread outside of china, u. S. , germany, france, italy, these countries account for a majority of revenues for these companies and that is why we feel a pullback coming from key verticals and Key Countries can lead to u. S. Companies seeing what the Chinese Companies saw in 1q. U. S. Impact would be in q2. Emily lets take a look at amazon. A very interesting case. On the one hand people are flocking to amazon to get Hand Sanitizer and bleach wipes. You can imagine that is driving a lot of business. On the other hand, amazon is the epicenter of the u. S. Coronavirus outbreak. They just closed seattle area public schools. They are fighting counterfeiters and price gouging. I have heard people are worrying about getting coronavirus from amazon packages. What does this mean for amazon . Jitendra a lot of uncertainty on that front. If you look at the Distribution Centers in the u. S. , there is a high concentration in california the tristate area and, obviously, seattle. But we have not yet seen the effect to the supply chains. The report next week will give give us good insight. When supply chain gets overwhelmed, costs tend to rise. What that all means is eventually also you have to pay for employees when they cannot show up to work and things like that the sum total of this is they are unlikely to meet profit expectations for this year. So what we see happening is expectations for the entire sector really gets probably a reset at the end of april, and that reset then sort of gives them the room for outperformance in the second half if we see the development for the rest of the world follow what china did in the last two months. Emily coming up, hacker alert. Malicious hackers are trying to exploit fears of the coronavirus outbreak. We hear from a cybersecurity expert. And if you like bloomberg news, check us out on the radio, listen on the bloomberg app, bloomberg. Com, and in the u. S. On sirius xm. This is bloomberg. Emily as the coronavirus spreads, hackers are trying to take advantage. Cybersecurity firms have reported surges of phishing attacks and malicious actors praying upon peoples fears to trick them. For more, i spoke to a Senior Vice President at a Cybersecurity Firm wednesday. You have a series of capable actors who are looking to use the epidemic to spread malware. To get into peoples email because they are interested in clicking on things about the coronavirus and to distribute ransomware in the current threat environment. Emily talk to us about the threat level in cyberspace, given what is happening, the uncertainty, so many people working from home. Is there a threat to our National Security right now . Jamil i think there is. As we know, there has been a longterm threat from andllectual property threat threat to infrastructure. As people start to work from home, a lot more of the economy depends on highly secured cyber infrastructure. That is what we are utilizing now to conduct our daytoday business more and more, even more so now. People recognize this is a situation, and criminal actors are exploiting this. We will see what nationstates do going forward, but they know they are going to use longterm hooks. Emily what are companies and individuals supposed to do if they are working from home . They may be do not have all the security protocols. Jamil one of the keys for companies is to use vpns. For individuals you can buy vpn software and at least your information is secure. You can also leaves the latest in behavioral Threat Detection to protect your networks if you are a company. Part of this is Companies Working with one another in a collective defense posture to defend against these threats as we enter this new environment where we are all working from home, and recognizing this is just how it may be for a while to come. Emily you are at the rsa security conference in San Francisco a couple weeks ago, the same conference that now three people attended and have now tested positive for covid19. One of those folks is sadly in a medically induced coma. This is a huge gathering for your industry. I am curious how this is impacting folks in your industry right now. Jamil people are taking wise precautions. There were 36,000 people at the conference. Only a handful apparently have this issue. But the concern is you did not want it spreading, you do not want to be a point of spread. So a lot of people are working from home. We have seen Major Tech Companies announce they are going to have your staff stay stay home. Ir staff just more generally, a better precautionary measure. At least for this industry, you want to be cautious and careful. We will see what happens. We are now about 12 days out from rsa ending, so the incubation period is 14 days. By this weekend we should know better if there are further cases, but it is better to take precaution then not. Precaution. Than not. Emily that said, the disease is continuing to spread. Earlier today cbs was evacuated. Two of its new yorkbased employees tested positive for coronavirus. They are asking employees to work from home. This is certainly going to get worse before it gets better. What are you most concerned about from a National Security perspective . Jamil honestly, one of the things is people overpanicking and getting too worried and not engaging in their normal daytoday business or economic activity. This is a challenge. We have seen a lot of public spaces be left behind, people staying at home. But you can still get your work done. This is not the zombie apocalypse, as it were. The thing to do is just be safe, take normal precautions. And in the cyber arena, take smart precautions. But do not stop doing business. The general variables of the economy are good and solid. We want to avoid a panic here. Emily that said, what would you like to hear from the white house at this point . Some of the panic might be tied to the fact that we are not getting a lot of information. The president has been set to unveil a plan but that has not happened. The Daily Briefing today by the Vice President was canceled. What should we be hearing from the white house . Jamil the w. H. O. Today declared it a pandemic. 114 countries affected. This is a huge concern. It has been a pandemic since h1n1 years ago. We want the white house to come out and tell us the plan. Tell us that they are going to stimulate the economy. We know this will happen, we know the fed will continue to cut rates to the extent they are able to do so. For all we know, they will engage in quantitative easing. I think the economy will stay strong. I think the government will do the right thing. All we need for the white house and leadership in congress to do is to step up and say we will do what is necessary to keep the economy going and keep the countrys work moving. As long as we get that i think we are in solid shape. Emily that was jamil jaffer at iron net. If you are trying to cancel a trip, dont expect a refund from airbnb. We have all the details and disgruntled travelers next. Schools and universities around the world continue to shut down. How can kids keep learning at home . The push to get Classes Online is next. This is bloomberg. Emily travel is being hit by the coronavirus, but if you booked through airbnb, you may be out of luck. Unless you have booked a stay in china, italy, or south korea airbnb is enforcing no , Cancellation Policy unless you are in certain countries, leaving 97 others where the coronavirus has spread. I got details from olivia carville. Olivia we are seeing a lot of frustration at the moment from guests, people who booked trips years in advance and really want to go. Unfortunately, now as it has spread across the world and has reached pandemic status and Health Authorities are advising people against travel and families we are talking about think it is in their best interest to protect their family in terms of safety, but also to try and avoid actually spreading the coronavirus. They dont want to take the trip anymore and are trying to cancel. The airline and hotel have both refunded them. Unfortunately, airbnb has a different position. They said that according to the cdc guidelines, they can still safely travel to japan according to the cdc guidelines, the from their families position, they have a 10yearold son and dont think it is safe. We are hearing from a lot of people who feel that airbnb is putting the families at risk by giving them Incorrect Information and not offering a refund. Emily i heard the response that if the cdc conditions are followed,cautions are you can safely travel to japan. Well, nobody knows if they could safely travel are not. Airbnb has responded to all of the frustration, saying we are a twosided marketplace. It is not the travelers but the hosts who are the customers. Tell us more about airbnbs side of the story. Olivia airbnb is in a difficult position. We know that the travel sector has been the hardest hit. Airlines are canceling flights, hotels are closing, businesses are per happening travel, and events are being canceled across the world. While airlines and hotels only have to do with the customer, airbnb is a twoway platform. On airbnb, you have a host who will rent out a home, and you have a guest who intends to stay there. From their perspective, every time it gets canceled, the host is least outofpocket. Traditionally, airbnb has always had a refund policy that was kind of up to the hosts discretion. They could choose whether they wanted a flexible refund policy, which means you could cancel up 48 hours before you arrived, or , meaning noicy refunds at all if you cancel. The problem we have here is you created this extenuating circumstance around coronavirus that only applies to three countries. A lot of people are traveling beyond those three and do not feel safe. Emily in some cases you found anecdotal stories where perhaps the host would refund the money but airbnb still took its fee. Meantime, this is a company that was planning to go public this year at 30some billiondollar valuation. If you look at a company like marriott that is a 33 billiondollar market cap, do we buy the idea that airbnb cannot cover for these travelers in a crisis like this . Olivia we know that they have been cash flow positive and they have turned a profit in 2017 and 2018. We believe they did lose in 2019 but that has yet to come out. We do know that for airbnb, they were founded in 2008 during the Global Financial crisis. This is the second biggest challenge the company has faced. And unfortunately, it is coming in the year they intend to go public. Emily bloomberg technologys olivia carville. Tesla overtook boeing wednesday is the most valuable industrial company. The electric carmakers market cap topped boeing by 10 billion. I spoke to bloombergs ed ludlow. Ed it is as much about boeings pain as teslas gain. Boeing has a double whammy where it is dealing with the coronavirus, the impact on travel globally, people are traveling less, definitely flying less. Emily and continuing to deal with the 737 max. Ed we are approaching the oneyear anniversary of that being grounded. If you look at the decline of boeings shares so far this year, that is how tesla has managed to creep up. To be fair to tesla it is , amazing we are even to be fair to tesla, talking about tesla in the same breath as boeing. This legacy, huge industrial name with 80 billion of revenue last year. Tesla get 25 billion of revenue last year. It is a crazy concept that investors have been talking about. They have been talking about how tesla has been coming a quote, unqoute real company. They are producing real things and factories. There is a growth story. Tesla shares are up 55 year to date. It is expanding its Production Capacity to 500,000 new vehicles this year. Its increasing its base of industry. Already up and running in china, plans for europe next year. Perhaps a new factory in the u. S. As well. Emily tesla has been a real company for a long time, lets be honest. Theres an irony in that elon musk tweeted last week the coronavirus panic is dumb. Meanwhile today, talking about opening new factories in the u. S. Ed on the coronavirus we did not know how it is impacting tesla. On january 30, the cfo said it will delay production in china by 1. 5 weeks, but we have not heard much more. We do not know what the situation is over the fremont factory over the water from us. Elon tweets, he draws attention away perhaps from the company and onto himself. But they are looking at this new potential factory here in the United States to produce the cyber truck, and even a model y factory they hope will be on the east coast, according to another tweet. Emily tesla has not been immune to the volatility. The Stock Plunged almost 14 monday, regained about half that yesterday, down again today. You have to think if there is a broader economic downturn, that impacts a carmaker. Ed there are two schools of thought. The first is where is teslas demand coming from. This ties into the cyber truck debate. There are signs that the demand for what was once a concept vehicle is strong. In a market of pickup trucks, which is entrenched with three players, analysts raise is it just the diehards, the people who really believe in a concept and will go for it, or is it this idea that if the world is going to shift to a renewable energy, sustainable source of energy and electric vehicles, that tesla has first mover advantage . Even in a recession people buy vehicles. Yes, used do better than new in a recession. But tesla is pretty much the sole player, so it depends on what kind of support to get. Support they get. Emily does tesla have an advantage over other carmakers in this moment . Ed we have done some reporting around this. Part of the big gain this year comes from this idea that technologywise, tesla could be three to five years ahead of the big germans. This is what is incredible about the story. We talk about teslas market cap and it is greater than volkswagen, it volkswagen reduced 10 million vehicles last year. What investors are looking at is look at the range, look at actually the volumes they are producing. No matter how many billions of dollars these legacy european makers are putting into evs, they have yet to build a single viable competitive vehicle. Emily bloombergs ed ludlow there. Bloombergs ed ludlow there. Coming up, as the coronavirus spreads globally, workers had home en masse. Could