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i didn't even see the recording. all i know is i did nothing wrong. we had a lot of papers, a lot of papers stacked up. in fact, you could hear the rustle of the paper, and nobody said i did anything wrong, other than the fake news, which of course is fox too. >> what do you make of this response from the former president, kaitlin? >> it's interesting to hear him referencing the rustling of the paper, that is what we have been talking about, where he is telling those gathered around him, "look at this," and you can hear him pause as he does move the paper around and seems to be showing it to them based on what you can hear in this audio recording. and so he's responding to that. "a," that undercuts what he said to fox news a few days ago, last week when he said he didn't have a document per se. he very clearly is referencing one from this audio recording. but also the entire premise of this undercuts the defense that he and his legal team have been making in court filings. also in public for several months now. which is that he had the power