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russians. not the full-scale, all-out offensive, throwing everything they have at the ukrainians. it's mainly the capabilities of the front line. which is significant since these front lines haven't really shifted since we've seen the beginning of this offensive over the past few days. there's been no breakout, these lines are holding, no real ground given up by the ukrainians, but this could be a preview of what's to come. i don't think this will be a conflict, this latest campaign in the east, that will be solved or conclusions made over hours or days. we're talking about weeks of pro tra protracted battle between the two sides. the russians seem to be pretty strong as are the ukrainians defending their homeland. kate, how this plays out in the next few weeks which will come up soon is what we'll be wa watching very closely, but for now, not a ton of movement on those front lines. >> there is this obsessive claim