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i want no quid pro quo. reporter: now we can hear giuliani set out his offer. so if he could make some statement at the right time and make this a fair honest working system and that these investigations go wherever they have to go, it s going to be run by honest people, that would clear the air really well and i think it would make it possible for me to come and make it possible for me to talk to the president and see what i can do about making sure that whatever misunderstandings are put aside and maybe even i kind of think that this that this could be a good thick for having a much a much better relationship where we really understand each other. to moy factual knowledge they approached reporter: one former ukrainian official who was listening in on the call understood all too well. he spoke to cnn last month of his outrage as he heard giuliani