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clear sort of what the defense is here. this is a very unusual case, two charge this these types of cases usually aren t charges standalone matters. so i think frankly, not that hard to prove so i d like to hear the defense words and see where what what tractor they re going to try to get with the jury is sympathy. a defense or a useful defense at times for defendants i mean i think it s sort of not said outright, but certainly you want to engender that empathy from the jury. it is you know, there s certainly a possibility that you can in gender enough, enough empathy that you get essentially jury nullification. the jury says, okay, we think that the defendant on trial here did this crime, but we are not comfortable convicting him of that. that is generally not a defense. you want to lead