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to 2020, most of that democratic field was mostly saying that what republicans and donald trump was doing were bad, not really offering an affirmative vision that hasn't really been able to hold for democrats while in office, you've also seen after that sin and bipartisan compromise fail, the white house sable voters will blame republicans and donald trump for nuking this deal. >> and we haven't seen that really baer route and data to the point where we do see the white house making this action. and i think it's right to point out before the debate to be able to give the president something that insulate himself from republican attacks. the big tell is also that those down ballots and the democrats have been running away from biden on this issue. they've been breaking an axiom for a harsher border enforcement. and so that shows the kind parties language on this issue has shifted, but to the point about the advocates, they've been upset for awhile. do they feel like the top levels of the party have ceded a little ground, a little more ground, a little more ground to the right-wing activists on this issue to the point where it is now the mainstream democratic position to be enforcement first. >> so that is definitely true when you talk about the