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they are interested in influence and they realized that politicians are cheap and so they can get a lot of influence by giving them small amounts of money. and i mean $30 million is nothing to these people. they're very wealthy and so no, he was talking about someone else. >> there's always been conservatives in silicon valley. it's never been as liberal as people think it is. especially at the top up and there's been a long history. meg whitman, john chambers at cisco, and everything else. these are just people who are sort of trying to get in on the game and they realize how easy it is. there's another group of people like reid hoffman, mark cuban, ron conway, who are very supportive of biden and have been previous things. shamatha was a big supporter of of obama and hillary clinton. and so i think it was with hillary clinton two, but they just shift. they just want influence. this is what's in handwaving and then they play the victim there was the richest people in the world must be nice for 30 million, not to be a lot of things. i want to tell our viewers. and i want you to talk about some of