Transcripts For CNNW CNN 20240704 : vimarsana.com

Thank you so much for joining us tonight. Cnn prime time with laura coates starts right now. Hey caitlin, im telling you, if you thought august was winding down. This is heating up. Until your vacations, anyone watching. Did you have a vacation plan, kaitlyn . What is the thing called vacation . Do you go someplace . You dont work . I wonder how that goes . One to answer that one i would think. We are not, i will do a staycation right here. Im laura coates, everyone, thank you so much for joining me. Listen, tonight, donald trump is bracing for two more indictments. You heard that right. One potential counsel, jack smith, for efforts to overturn the election. Another in hot lana, for trying to overturn the results in georgia. And yet, that phrase teflon don . It continues to be one of the oddest juxtapositions in all of politics. As his legal problems start to pile up, guess what, so does his poll numbers. Take a look while it is still early of course. He is crushing the field. Look at the numbers there, the percentages, and there is a note where the trend when it comes to his cash. Because his fundraising spikes whenever he is charged. Or whenever he is indicted. Or whatever he is arraigned, for that matter, he has already been indicted twice now and experts expect to have a third soon for his efforts to overturn the election. Take a look at the no revelation, everyone, his Political Action committee, look at this number. He has spent more than 40 million just this year alone on legal fees. Put that in your mind for a second. 40 million this year alone, and its not even august the same pack spent less than half of that on lawyers for all of last year. Its kind of like his campaign is almost designed to bankroll his legal fees. Which frankly, will only grow. I want to talk about this now, and all the legal developments with former federal prosecutor, jean rossi, in just a moment. But everyone, first, i want to go to cnn correspondent Jessica Schneider with the news. Jessica, he had a georgia judge rejecting trumps efforts right now to disqualify fani willis. She is the dea down in fulton county. So what do we know now tonight, about where that case stands . Well laura, so that ruling by that Superior Court judge, it was definitely a win for the District Attorney moving forward here. The judge they disregarded these claims that the District Attorney should be disqualified, the judge really applauded the dea for staying nonpartisan, non political throughout this two and a half year investigation. And fani willis does plan to announce whether there will be any indictment against the former president before september 1st. So right now, in georgia, there are currently two Criminal Grand Juries convened in fulton county. They are meeting several days this week, and the District Attorney will either this week or next, then present her case to the grand jury. So the grand jury will then vote on any indictments, whether it is against trump or any of the associates who tried to overturn the 2020 Election Results in that state. And laura, what we know is that Law Enforcement authorities in atlanta, they are already prepping their Security Measures in place around the local courthouse. And Law Enforcement agencies in that state, in that county, they actually observed the scene in miami after the former president was indicted in the classified documents case. So they are ready for anything that could come down in the next few weeks here. In fulton county, georgia. Lets talk about this gene, because you think about that. All that she has laid out there. The preparations being made. They looked at miami which we know resulted in a course of indictment. When you look at this, know that she has the promise of. By september 1st, i want to tell you what the deal is going to be. Is there an indictment looming in georgia . Yes, and i want to think of a word named League Reading tea leaves. I sleep with a dictionary by the way. But my prediction is this. Probably next thursday, Thursday Next week. Or the week after, you will see an indictment from funny wellness. Because a reporter is probably going to testify tuesday of next week and. They meet one day, or tuesday, with a grand jury out there. Yes, and she was at an event saturday or sunday. And when you have a prosecutor that makes a statement that quote, we are ready to go . I think that is a red flag that we are going to be seeing some really serious charges. But i could be wrong. I could be around. She was at a Backpack Event for kids getting ready for school. Shes out in the community, saying work is accomplish, we are ready to go. And everybody is saying, what does this mean . In terms of everything going on . Especially because, you cant look at it in a vacuum. Donald trump has got that potentially looming, the two indictments, as superseding indictment in florida. That he might be arraigned for, thats a lot to consider, to have the work accomplished already. And then still have a grand jury subpoena . I think maybe theyre just tying up loose and, because i think that this reporter came out of the woodwork. But if that reporter allegedly says what we think well. Which is what . He walked into a meeting in mid december, at the georgia capital, or nearby. And he came upon people meeting to develop a slate of fake electors. That is a crime, number one, number two that could be part of jack smiths indictment. Which means that he may call this person to the grand jury and push back his indictments just a little bit. Im predicting, i could be wrong. What was that phase again . We learned stuff everyone. Jessica, going back to you here. I want to go to that special counsels document investigation. Were learning Surveillance Footage is charged to the no obstruction footage. Also in recent weeks. What can you tell us . This is new information. This is coming from the finally from the special counsel. Theyre saying, that, theyre telling the judge they have this surveillance video. That theyre saying in the filing, quote, pertains to the no obstruction allegations, those of course are the new charges made last week in that superseding indictment against trump. Also walt nauta, and the new defended in the case that we saw in the court today, Carlos Carlos de oliveira. And the court today has the new allegations that all three of them engaged in a conspiracy to delete security ferreted. And the footage wrapped plants in the filing was obtained in the last few weeks. Its not clear what the newly obtained security footage shows, but the latest filing that we are just seeing from the special counsel, it does make clear one thing. That this investigation is still very much ongoing, despite the charges that came down last week. And it also shows how this case against former president trump, it continues to grow, all as we await potentially another indictment related to january 6th and experts to subvert the 2020 election. So a lot going here, as he continues to be even more legal peril. When youre a defendant, and you hear newlyobtained evidence . And you already have an indictment . Are you shaking in your boots . Our wet . Im not sleeping at night. Lets put it that way. I was a prosecutor for many years, not a defense attorney. I do have to say this though, when i was prosecuting. Presumption of innocence was cherished to me. It was sacred. And of course as a defense attorney, it also is. Here is what concerns me. We could have four indictments against donald trump, the Due Process Clause kicks into me, and also a speedy trial act. We have to be careful that he is given enough time because he is presumed innocent. To fight these charges. So these cases have to be spread out. Do i think that the first two indictments, the one from maralago, and manhattan, the Manhattan One is not the strongest one in my view. But the one in maralago is just a slam dunk. If he gets indicted by fani willis which appears to be a strong case, the allegations, and he gets the january 6th indictment. Which i think is going to be strong, i am still concerned about the timing. So the judges should get together somehow to talk about their schedules. Because you cannot just make, even the president of the United States, or another known person, fight for charges simultaneously. We talked about due process, but really are talking about, i have to have time to defend myself. And have time to prepare. He has a select, few number of attorneys. He appears to be very affluent, and have a number of resources at his disposal to maybe acquire additional council. It takes a learning curve. But prepare that to the average joe. Because people would say the, hold on a second, if you dont want to have four trials against you, then dont commit for different acts that would warrant probable cause by means of an indictment. Is that gonna have some means to say, so bad, too bad for you that you have to juggle that. But maybe its your own conduct . And i dont have to give you the same benefit of the doubt . You and i both worked the doj. And we had some great years. But there were many times when there was a state prosecution, and thens theres counting, or you know the feds and the state folks talk. Which trial goes first . How long is that gonna be . And then you can go second, or whatever. So there has to be some coordination between the fed prosecutors, and the state. The coordination does not mean more than just the calendar, or the schedule, it doesnt mean that theyre actually comparing notes and saying, here you go, heres all in one case. Thats not the same. Well, i have to add to that. I think theyre going to talk scheduling. But under the Due Process Clause of the constitution, prosecutors have to disclose and produce information. And so if the State Prosecutor has information that could hurt or helped a defendant, that may have to be turned over in the federal case, and vice versa. Its as they call it. So there may be some coordination between the state and federal prosecutors. And the judges to. They know their own docket as well. Please stand by, because cnns Melanie Zanona is also here to talk about some samira. On the hill today, and there is three house gop chairman announcing a hunter biden plea deal, on the same day that he testified on capitol hill. Melanie what are we learning tonight . This testimony from devin archer, a key Business Associate was highly anticipated by republicans. They have been trying to establish a direct leg between president joe biden, and his sons foreign business tears. That length that the white house has consistently denied. And it seems that republicans are still trying to come up short, improving that there was a connection between the president and his sons business deals. Now devin archer did testify that hunter biden put joe biden on speakerphone. At least ten times in the course of a twoyear period, in front of his Business Associates, but sources in the room today said that our churches to find that business was never discussed on those calls. It was more of a casual check in. Casual conversation. And sources also said that archer testified that he was not aware of any Bribery Scheme involving joe biden and a foreign national. That is something that has been alleged by republicans. But republicans say that they dont believe that it was just niceties discussed on the speakerphone calls. They say those calls in addition to a dinner that joe biden popped into at one point, i prove that joe biden did intimately have knowledge of his sons business deals. And they are vowing to continue digging in. The associates doesnt have concrete exits but its clear that biden was the target, and impeachment was also on the brain. Do you see evidence of high crimes . Misdemeanors . Or anything to justify . At this time, i dont see high crimes, or it misdemeanors. I dont even see a low crime. I see a son who is using his father to pop in on a meeting, on speakerphone, and give the illusion that i, hunter biden, have power. I have to say this. I dont care if youre a republican, democrat, or independent. If you are a prosecutor, and you have concrete evidence of quid pro quo, services violated, or any you scratch my back and i scratch yours. If there is concrete evidence of that. You have to investigate that. But based on what i know now, i see a lot of smoke. But i would never base my case, criminally, unjust devin archer. You need corroboration, and something concrete. I do not see it. Well we will see. Jeanne rossi, thank you so much. As we talk about trumps poll numbers going up, despite all of his legal troubles. There is actually an nbc report that says, get this, only four of his 44 Cabinet Members have even endorsed his latest run for president. That is for people, out of a possible 44. Former a. G. Bill barr telling nbc, when asked, who he would support in a trump and biden rematch, well, quote, ill jump off that bridge when i get to it. Unquote. I want to bring in john bolton, former Top National Security adviser who is also a former u. N. Ambassador. Ambassador, its really good to see you. I cant tell you, those odds of a one, not too good, four out of 44. Well get to that in a second. But you are pretty clear of your own critique and criticism of donald trump. But i wonder if you asked the same question that bill barr was asked, when it came down to a trump and biden matchup. What would you do . I would do the same thing that i did in 2020. I live in maryland, which permits right in voting. I always like to vote for a conservative republican. Between biden and trump, there was no conservative on the ballot. So i wrote In The Name Of a conservative, and i would do the same in 2024. Who is that name . I have not told anybody, but, someday i may. But i am not revealing. Tonight is a good night to do so, john bolton, we should just go ahead and share everything. Did you write your name in . Whats your own name written and . I did not write my own name in. No. It was a living republican conservative. The plot thickens. Let me ask you this. Did you foresee a time when your own name might be on the ballot for this 2024 race . Im still considering it. If you look at the New York Times poll that came out today, with trump at 54 , and only ron desantis in double digits. I dont think anyone has caught fire yet. Its entirely possible one or more of them will, by the time of the debate later in august. But, right now, i dont see that path. We should give him a chance. But i think august, late august could be a very important point for the republican party. I really think people should be saying that if the candidates have not shown a chance to defeat trump, they ought to can seriously consider getting out at that point. And maybe other people who had not entered the race should consider coming in. Well look to hear from you in august, perhaps, john bolton, on the very notion. But let me ask you, given the odds, four out of 44 former Cabinet Members supporting him . What should americans take away from that fact . This is stunning in modern, or really any american history, what do you take away from the fact that its four out of 44 . I do not know exactly who the 44 were who were surveyed, but i would say this, i think in private, on this conversations. Almost all of trumps Cabinet Members and other senior advisers would say that their conclusion after watching him during their time in office is that trump is not fit to be notn of the drama, or his personality, or Something Like that, its a question of his basic lack of confidence to do the job. And i think people really do not want to be out front endorsing somebody that they know cant do the job. Why do you think it is . Its one thing to talk about competence. The other thing to talk about maybe availability, for example, you know that he is facing a great number of legal troubles. On the overall bingo card of america, i cannot imagine a are in the hopeful who would have an opposing candidate who had been impeached twice, twice been indicted, maybe another one around the corner with mounting legal troubles and they cant capitalize, or criticize it. And hes only gaining ground around his rivals, even after all of this has come to and head. What is your view on that . And is it inevitable given these numbers, and given where we are right now that donald trump will in fact secure the nomination . I think it is far from and never the ball. I think this poll maybe has high point, i think the poll could turn out to be an outlier. I think that there are a lot more people who are willing to consider alternatives. I think they break the maga base too highly to, a large. I think that what people are looking for is a candidate who can take trump on and really demonstrate that to beat trump you have to go after trump. Some of the candidates are criticizing trump directly, but i think its not just a question of criticism. Ithaca it is a question of considering that a second trump term would be bad for the country. And bad for principles. Remember, trump cannot serve a third term. Which means he is freed from any electoral constraint. It wouldve been true if he had been elected if he was reelected in 2020, it would be true if he went in 2024. Whats free from the sensible decisions, people who think that he would be more conservative in a second term, are going to be very disappointed. John bolton, thank you so much for joining. Everyone, up next, the wife of the alleged gilgo beach killer. He is speaking out tonight as obsessed true crime fans are showing up to the home. Imagine that . The wife lori is going to join live. Plus we told you about the trend of onstage incidents . Well now, a singer who fought back is under investigation. The artist, cardi b right there, and also senator Tommy Tuberville is livid. After President Biden reversed that decision involving the space command. I will tell you about it next Political Action<\/a> committee, look at this number. He has spent more than 40 million just this year alone on legal fees. Put that in your mind for a second. 40 million this year alone, and its not even august the same pack spent less than half of that on lawyers for all of last year. Its kind of like his campaign is almost designed to bankroll his legal fees. Which frankly, will only grow. I want to talk about this now, and all the legal developments with former federal prosecutor, jean rossi, in just a moment. But everyone, first, i want to go to cnn correspondent Jessica Schneider<\/a> with the news. Jessica, he had a georgia judge rejecting trumps efforts right now to disqualify fani willis. She is the dea down in fulton county. So what do we know now tonight, about where that case stands . Well laura, so that ruling by that Superior Court<\/a> judge, it was definitely a win for the District Attorney<\/a> moving forward here. The judge they disregarded these claims that the District Attorney<\/a> should be disqualified, the judge really applauded the dea for staying nonpartisan, non political throughout this two and a half year investigation. And fani willis does plan to announce whether there will be any indictment against the former president before september 1st. So right now, in georgia, there are currently two Criminal Grand Juries<\/a> convened in fulton county. They are meeting several days this week, and the District Attorney<\/a> will either this week or next, then present her case to the grand jury. So the grand jury will then vote on any indictments, whether it is against trump or any of the associates who tried to overturn the 2020 Election Results<\/a> in that state. And laura, what we know is that Law Enforcement<\/a> authorities in atlanta, they are already prepping their Security Measures<\/a> in place around the local courthouse. And Law Enforcement<\/a> agencies in that state, in that county, they actually observed the scene in miami after the former president was indicted in the classified documents case. So they are ready for anything that could come down in the next few weeks here. In fulton county, georgia. Lets talk about this gene, because you think about that. All that she has laid out there. The preparations being made. They looked at miami which we know resulted in a course of indictment. When you look at this, know that she has the promise of. By september 1st, i want to tell you what the deal is going to be. Is there an indictment looming in georgia . Yes, and i want to think of a word named League Reading<\/a> tea leaves. I sleep with a dictionary by the way. But my prediction is this. Probably next thursday, Thursday Next<\/a> week. Or the week after, you will see an indictment from funny wellness. Because a reporter is probably going to testify tuesday of next week and. They meet one day, or tuesday, with a grand jury out there. Yes, and she was at an event saturday or sunday. And when you have a prosecutor that makes a statement that quote, we are ready to go . I think that is a red flag that we are going to be seeing some really serious charges. But i could be wrong. I could be around. She was at a Backpack Event<\/a> for kids getting ready for school. Shes out in the community, saying work is accomplish, we are ready to go. And everybody is saying, what does this mean . In terms of everything going on . Especially because, you cant look at it in a vacuum. Donald trump has got that potentially looming, the two indictments, as superseding indictment in florida. That he might be arraigned for, thats a lot to consider, to have the work accomplished already. And then still have a grand jury subpoena . I think maybe theyre just tying up loose and, because i think that this reporter came out of the woodwork. But if that reporter allegedly says what we think well. Which is what . He walked into a meeting in mid december, at the georgia capital, or nearby. And he came upon people meeting to develop a slate of fake electors. That is a crime, number one, number two that could be part of jack smiths indictment. Which means that he may call this person to the grand jury and push back his indictments just a little bit. Im predicting, i could be wrong. What was that phase again . We learned stuff everyone. Jessica, going back to you here. I want to go to that special counsels document investigation. Were learning Surveillance Footage<\/a> is charged to the no obstruction footage. Also in recent weeks. What can you tell us . This is new information. This is coming from the finally from the special counsel. Theyre saying, that, theyre telling the judge they have this surveillance video. That theyre saying in the filing, quote, pertains to the no obstruction allegations, those of course are the new charges made last week in that superseding indictment against trump. Also walt nauta, and the new defended in the case that we saw in the court today, Carlos Carlos<\/a> de oliveira. And the court today has the new allegations that all three of them engaged in a conspiracy to delete security ferreted. And the footage wrapped plants in the filing was obtained in the last few weeks. Its not clear what the newly obtained security footage shows, but the latest filing that we are just seeing from the special counsel, it does make clear one thing. That this investigation is still very much ongoing, despite the charges that came down last week. And it also shows how this case against former president trump, it continues to grow, all as we await potentially another indictment related to january 6th and experts to subvert the 2020 election. So a lot going here, as he continues to be even more legal peril. When youre a defendant, and you hear newlyobtained evidence . And you already have an indictment . Are you shaking in your boots . Our wet . Im not sleeping at night. Lets put it that way. I was a prosecutor for many years, not a defense attorney. I do have to say this though, when i was prosecuting. Presumption of innocence was cherished to me. It was sacred. And of course as a defense attorney, it also is. Here is what concerns me. We could have four indictments against donald trump, the Due Process Clause<\/a> kicks into me, and also a speedy trial act. We have to be careful that he is given enough time because he is presumed innocent. To fight these charges. So these cases have to be spread out. Do i think that the first two indictments, the one from maralago, and manhattan, the Manhattan One<\/a> is not the strongest one in my view. But the one in maralago is just a slam dunk. If he gets indicted by fani willis which appears to be a strong case, the allegations, and he gets the january 6th indictment. Which i think is going to be strong, i am still concerned about the timing. So the judges should get together somehow to talk about their schedules. Because you cannot just make, even the president of the United States<\/a>, or another known person, fight for charges simultaneously. We talked about due process, but really are talking about, i have to have time to defend myself. And have time to prepare. He has a select, few number of attorneys. He appears to be very affluent, and have a number of resources at his disposal to maybe acquire additional council. It takes a learning curve. But prepare that to the average joe. Because people would say the, hold on a second, if you dont want to have four trials against you, then dont commit for different acts that would warrant probable cause by means of an indictment. Is that gonna have some means to say, so bad, too bad for you that you have to juggle that. But maybe its your own conduct . And i dont have to give you the same benefit of the doubt . You and i both worked the doj. And we had some great years. But there were many times when there was a state prosecution, and thens theres counting, or you know the feds and the state folks talk. Which trial goes first . How long is that gonna be . And then you can go second, or whatever. So there has to be some coordination between the fed prosecutors, and the state. The coordination does not mean more than just the calendar, or the schedule, it doesnt mean that theyre actually comparing notes and saying, here you go, heres all in one case. Thats not the same. Well, i have to add to that. I think theyre going to talk scheduling. But under the Due Process Clause<\/a> of the constitution, prosecutors have to disclose and produce information. And so if the State Prosecutor<\/a> has information that could hurt or helped a defendant, that may have to be turned over in the federal case, and vice versa. Its as they call it. So there may be some coordination between the state and federal prosecutors. And the judges to. They know their own docket as well. Please stand by, because cnns Melanie Zanona<\/a> is also here to talk about some samira. On the hill today, and there is three house gop chairman announcing a hunter biden plea deal, on the same day that he testified on capitol hill. Melanie what are we learning tonight . This testimony from devin archer, a key Business Associate<\/a> was highly anticipated by republicans. They have been trying to establish a direct leg between president joe biden, and his sons foreign business tears. That length that the white house has consistently denied. And it seems that republicans are still trying to come up short, improving that there was a connection between the president and his sons business deals. Now devin archer did testify that hunter biden put joe biden on speakerphone. At least ten times in the course of a twoyear period, in front of his Business Associate<\/a>s, but sources in the room today said that our churches to find that business was never discussed on those calls. It was more of a casual check in. Casual conversation. And sources also said that archer testified that he was not aware of any Bribery Scheme<\/a> involving joe biden and a foreign national. That is something that has been alleged by republicans. But republicans say that they dont believe that it was just niceties discussed on the speakerphone calls. They say those calls in addition to a dinner that joe biden popped into at one point, i prove that joe biden did intimately have knowledge of his sons business deals. And they are vowing to continue digging in. The associates doesnt have concrete exits but its clear that biden was the target, and impeachment was also on the brain. Do you see evidence of high crimes . Misdemeanors . Or anything to justify . At this time, i dont see high crimes, or it misdemeanors. I dont even see a low crime. I see a son who is using his father to pop in on a meeting, on speakerphone, and give the illusion that i, hunter biden, have power. I have to say this. I dont care if youre a republican, democrat, or independent. If you are a prosecutor, and you have concrete evidence of quid pro quo, services violated, or any you scratch my back and i scratch yours. If there is concrete evidence of that. You have to investigate that. But based on what i know now, i see a lot of smoke. But i would never base my case, criminally, unjust devin archer. You need corroboration, and something concrete. I do not see it. Well we will see. Jeanne rossi, thank you so much. As we talk about trumps poll numbers going up, despite all of his legal troubles. There is actually an nbc report that says, get this, only four of his 44 Cabinet Members<\/a> have even endorsed his latest run for president. That is for people, out of a possible 44. Former a. G. Bill barr telling nbc, when asked, who he would support in a trump and biden rematch, well, quote, ill jump off that bridge when i get to it. Unquote. I want to bring in john bolton, former Top National Security<\/a> adviser who is also a former u. N. Ambassador. Ambassador, its really good to see you. I cant tell you, those odds of a one, not too good, four out of 44. Well get to that in a second. But you are pretty clear of your own critique and criticism of donald trump. But i wonder if you asked the same question that bill barr was asked, when it came down to a trump and biden matchup. What would you do . I would do the same thing that i did in 2020. I live in maryland, which permits right in voting. I always like to vote for a conservative republican. Between biden and trump, there was no conservative on the ballot. So i wrote In The Name Of<\/a> a conservative, and i would do the same in 2024. Who is that name . I have not told anybody, but, someday i may. But i am not revealing. Tonight is a good night to do so, john bolton, we should just go ahead and share everything. Did you write your name in . Whats your own name written and . I did not write my own name in. No. It was a living republican conservative. The plot thickens. Let me ask you this. Did you foresee a time when your own name might be on the ballot for this 2024 race . Im still considering it. If you look at the New York Times<\/a> poll that came out today, with trump at 54 , and only ron desantis in double digits. I dont think anyone has caught fire yet. Its entirely possible one or more of them will, by the time of the debate later in august. But, right now, i dont see that path. We should give him a chance. But i think august, late august could be a very important point for the republican party. I really think people should be saying that if the candidates have not shown a chance to defeat trump, they ought to can seriously consider getting out at that point. And maybe other people who had not entered the race should consider coming in. Well look to hear from you in august, perhaps, john bolton, on the very notion. But let me ask you, given the odds, four out of 44 former Cabinet Members<\/a> supporting him . What should americans take away from that fact . This is stunning in modern, or really any american history, what do you take away from the fact that its four out of 44 . I do not know exactly who the 44 were who were surveyed, but i would say this, i think in private, on this conversations. Almost all of trumps Cabinet Members<\/a> and other senior advisers would say that their conclusion after watching him during their time in office is that trump is not fit to be notn of the drama, or his personality, or Something Like<\/a> that, its a question of his basic lack of confidence to do the job. And i think people really do not want to be out front endorsing somebody that they know cant do the job. Why do you think it is . Its one thing to talk about competence. The other thing to talk about maybe availability, for example, you know that he is facing a great number of legal troubles. On the overall bingo card of america, i cannot imagine a are in the hopeful who would have an opposing candidate who had been impeached twice, twice been indicted, maybe another one around the corner with mounting legal troubles and they cant capitalize, or criticize it. And hes only gaining ground around his rivals, even after all of this has come to and head. What is your view on that . And is it inevitable given these numbers, and given where we are right now that donald trump will in fact secure the nomination . I think it is far from and never the ball. I think this poll maybe has high point, i think the poll could turn out to be an outlier. I think that there are a lot more people who are willing to consider alternatives. I think they break the maga base too highly to, a large. I think that what people are looking for is a candidate who can take trump on and really demonstrate that to beat trump you have to go after trump. Some of the candidates are criticizing trump directly, but i think its not just a question of criticism. Ithaca it is a question of considering that a second trump term would be bad for the country. And bad for principles. Remember, trump cannot serve a third term. Which means he is freed from any electoral constraint. It wouldve been true if he had been elected if he was reelected in 2020, it would be true if he went in 2024. Whats free from the sensible decisions, people who think that he would be more conservative in a second term, are going to be very disappointed. John bolton, thank you so much for joining. Everyone, up next, the wife of the alleged gilgo beach killer. He is speaking out tonight as obsessed true crime fans are showing up to the home. Imagine that . The wife lori is going to join live. Plus we told you about the trend of onstage incidents . Well now, a singer who fought back is under investigation. The artist, cardi b right there, and also senator Tommy Tuberville<\/a> is livid. After President Biden<\/a> reversed that decision involving the space command. I will tell you about it next Chchevy Silverado<\/a> has what it takes to do it all. With up p to 13 camera views. And the z71 offroad package. You ok . Yeah. Any truck can help you make a living. This one helps you build a life. Chevy silverado. The first time you connected your Godaddy Website<\/a> and your store was also the first time you realized. Well, we can do anything. Cheesecake cookies . The chookie manage all your sales from one place with a rtner that always puts you first. we did it start toy at godaddy. Com like ours is spoiling their dogs. Good, real food is simple. It looks like food, it smells like food, its what dogs are supposed to be eating. No living being should ever eat processed food for every single meal of their life. Its amazing to me how many people write in about their dogs changing for the better. The farmers dog is just our way to help people take care of them. With gold bond. You can age on your own terms. Retinol overnight means. The smoothing benefits of retinol. Are now for your whole body. Plus, fastworking crepe corrector diminishes wrinkled skin in just two days. Gold bond. Champion your skin. Made it smell like dave was in his happy place. The Massage Chair<\/a> at the mall. But. He wasnt. Gain flings with oxi boost and febreze. My cpa told me i wouldnt qualify for the erc tax refund, so i called innovation refunds. Their team of independent Tax Attorneys<\/a> will work with your cpa to determine if your company is eligible. [whip sound] take the first step to see if your Small Business<\/a> qualifies. He snores like an angry rhino. Youve never heard an angry rhino. Baby i hear one every night. Every night. Okay. Ill work on that. Save up to 500 on the new sleep number\u00ae smart bed. Plus, 60 month financing on most smart beds. Shop now only at sleep number\u00ae. Limu emu doug what do we always say, son . Liberty mutual customizes your car insurance. So you only pay for what you need. Thats my boy. Now you get out there, and you make us proud, huh . Bye, uncle limu. Stay off the freeways only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Well tonight, the wife of the suspected gilgo beach Serial Killer<\/a>, rex heuermann, it speaking out again. A tape provided by cnn by our lawyers, she writes in part i am pleading with you all to give us space. That we may regain some normalcy in our neighborhood. Now, just like other famous serial killings that have garnered nationwide attention, the fascination around these murders have actually lead to obsessive, can we call them fans . And what is called murder a billion . That is apparently a thing, which is the selling of items connected to the murder suspect. Rex heuermann is charged with the murder of three of the gilgo four, women whose remains were found on exhorts Touch Of Gilgo Beach<\/a> in 2010. Hes the Prime Suspect<\/a> of the killing of the fourth woman, but has yet to be charged. With me now is robert macedonio, the attorney representing her. Bob, thank you so much for joining us. For people hearing terms like or you even use the term like fan, i have to understand what has it been like for your client since her husband was arrested . It has been extremely overwhelming for her and her children, as you can imagine. It attracts i, for lack of a better words, fans from all across the spectrum to get a glimpse of what is going on at the house, with her, the children, it has been chaotic to say the least. Are they shouting things to her . Are they trying to communicate to her or the children . I can manage and what that spotlight so bright, has she said anything or have they talked to her about it . I think the media is more shouting, theyre trying to get an interview or comment out of her more than the neighbors. Your client spoke briefly to reporters on friday about returning to her home, this was after it searched as a crime scene. Listen to this. For can you elaborate what exactly you came home . Do she came home to complete destruction of her Family Residence<\/a> where she lived and raised the children. Everything in the house was turned upside down, dress and drawers were emptied out. The tub was actually cut open, the floors were ripped up, the couches and mattresses had been removed, and just piles and piles of debris that were left in the residence where you barely had a Walking Space<\/a> to get into the house. Did she notice anything was missing of any kind . They havent even had the opportunity to go through the items the way it has been left. They are taking the time to do that as we speak, and each day its bringing more and more emotion because they are Finding Items<\/a> and not Finding Items<\/a>, and it is bringing about emotions of from them and their memories of living in the house prior to what this happened. Its a short time ago when that memory it would extend. I should note, also was out of the state, or out of the country when all of these killings allegedly happened. But, the spotlight and focus and attention on the family has been extensive. And i wonder, what would you say to critics who would question how she could have not known about these allegations that her husband was an alleged a Serial Killer<\/a> . As she had a chance to reflect on what people are thinking, perhaps . At this point, no. But she had no idea this was going on or the allegations, that her husband was a suspect. She is not a suspect and has not been questioned by the police regarding any of this. It has been extremely overwhelming for her and the children to try to piece life back together with what it was two and a half weeks go. I dont know if they will ever return to normalcy, but daybyday shes Getting Better<\/a>, she knows her strength. So she will have something to focus on, a strong focal point of being in charge. Shes Getting Better<\/a> every day. The officer whos never interviewed or . They didnt question her, no. You are using the word question, in the sense that you are with her in the council, or that she has never been questioned about these crimes at all . She is never been interrogated. There might have been some basic questions when they first arrived upon the scene, but shes not been interrogated or questioned by Law Enforcement<\/a> about the incident, timeline, allegations, or anything to do with criminal case. Has her husband tried to contact her from jail at all . Whatever conversation she had with her husband i am not a privy to discuss, but she is not discussed at the crimes are allegations with him. She did file for divorce after his arrest. Does that indicate, somehow, her belief on his innocence or guilt . No, it does not. The only thing she knows about the allegations of what the media is reported and there is a long way to go with criminal trial. She is filed to protect herself and her Family Moving<\/a> forward. What does that protection mean . It just means that you anticipate that maybe lawsuits, financial situations, she needs to focus on herself, her children moving forward. This criminal crowd could take two or three years playing out, she is moving on, her life, childrens life, however that works out to show at at the time. To be clear, know that the nature of the communication, we know youre not privy discuss, but there has been contact between the two since his arrest . I believe there has, but you have to realize that any phone calls are recorded at the facility so she has been very basic phone calls. Everything is recorded, she is not going to discuss anything nor has his attorneys discussing anything about the allegations. She is also received a ton of support for her and her family, one in particular was the happy face killer, remember from the 19 90s . His daughter, melissa moore, has reached out on numerous occasions, it is one of the few people who has been in the situations like asha, where her father was arrested as a alleged a Serial Killer<\/a> and convicted. She has started a Gofundme Page<\/a> for her and her family, and has been extremely supportive of hasse and getting here through this time of need. Certainly never a member of the organization, sorority that you would want to be part of in terms of what has happened to this family. Naturally, the families of the victims who are learning about this in realtime. Robert macedonia, thank you so much. I appreciate it, goodnight. You as well. Up next, police are now investigating cardi b as she retaliated against a fan who threw a drink at her onstage while she was performing. Plus, elon musk has now reinstated kanye twice twitter account after a swastika scandal. Hollywood is mourning peewee herman, the message he wanted to be released after his death. A mystery jessie loves playing detective. But the real mystery was her irritated skin. So, we switched to tide pods free gentle. It cleans better, and esnt leave behind irritating residues. And itsentle on her skin tide free ntle is epa safer choice certified. Its got to be tide my frequent heartburn had me taking antacid after antacid all day long but with prilosec otc just one pill a day blocks heartburn for a full 24 hours. For one and done heartburn relief, prilosec otc. One pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn. upbeat music constant contacts advanced automation lets you send the right message at the right time, every time. constant contact. Helping the small stand tall. Your wyndham is waiting. Whether its for the bucket lists. The free breakfasts and wifi. Or the. Romantic getaways . With 24 trusted brands by wyndham to choose from. Your wyndham is waiting. Get the lowest price at wyndhamhotels. Com tens of thousands of customers wrote about carvana being easy in their five star reviews, including eric. The whole process was really simple and easy, and this is my third time selling to carvana. So i can practically do it from memory now. You just enter your License Plate<\/a> or your vin, answer a few questions. Boom, you get a real offer. True story. Its still shocking how easy it was to sell my car to carvana. Sell your car to carvana today. Sleepovers just arent what they used to be. A house full of screens . Basically no hiccups . You guys have no idea how good youve got it. How old are you . Like, 80 . Back in my day, it was scary stories and flashlights. We dont get scared. Oh, really . Mom can see your search history. Thats what i thought. Introducing the next generation 10g network. Only from xfinity. We have got a disturbing trend at concerts. Youve got to fans who are throwing things onstage while people are performing. Now there is even a new twist, because tonight police are now investigating cardi b after a sand through a drink at her and she responded by throwing her microphone into the crowd. This comes after several incidents of singers being on the receiving end, including people like eva max and harry styles, drake, pink, kelsey belarusian, and bibi wrexit who, by the way, was hospitalized after being hit in the eye with a flying cell phone. Im good, im feeling all right. Joining me now is eric dug into the tv critic for npr and the author of race baiter, how media wields dangerous words. Also with me now is ashley ellison. Listen, i think we are all watching this unfold. I have to say, when you thumb saw this, what was your reaction actually when you first saw the water being thrown, or some liquid, and her reaction . To be honest, i dont condone violence, but i will say that people have a right to defend themselves. Concert goers need to stop this. It is attacking the artist and theyre helpless, theyre onstage and totally exposed and people have a right to defend themselves. I hope that this does not go into a legal matter because the person who threw the water was wrong and, if this continues, they need to explore what consequences the concert goer needs to face for instigating the event. Whether it is water, or a cell phone, or whatever the case may be. If you are throwing something at someone you have instigated an instance and i think it does a Human Reaction<\/a> to respond in a, im defending myself way. Look at this eric, and i wonder, she has had other instances. She pleaded guilty to Assault Charges<\/a> before, in an entirely unrelated matter. I will note that unrelated matter. But people are looking at this, you already see the commentary surrounding this and i wonder how the public will perceive her situation compared to all the others who have been onstage as well and, perhaps, maybe even wanted to respond and were not to do so . So many dots. I am actually a musician myself, when i was in college i did a band. Ive done a lot of im going to naidoo just saying the rest for response tonight. Carry on. Nice try. What is interesting about this is that somebody whos a Pop Music Critic<\/a> for a long time, throwing things on stage, for certain kinds of acts, has happened for a very long time with paul but bans, alternative bans, hard rock bands, but now were seeing it happen with pop Music Artists<\/a> where that is not part of the ritual, and so part of what we are seeing is people do it in at concerts, where that is not expected and the artist is not expecting it. And, you know, call me a curmudgeon but i feel like we have these audiences that are so used to being in front of tablets and phones and tv sets at home, that they dont know how to handle themselves when they are actually in public. They are being entertained by someone who is flesh and blood, and they treat them as if it is some kind of video game or some kind of Video Presentation<\/a> on their tv. But they are actual people who can be hurt by flying projectiles, particularly if they are not expecting it. And so, at some point, security is going to get more strenuous at these shows because these artists are not going to tolerate going out and delivering these multi Million Dollar<\/a> productions and having to worry about somebody throwing a bottle at their head. Nor should they have to tolerate that. It detracts from the experience of people who are going into the concerts, but you raise an interesting point that people are so accustomed to having the anonymity of doing what they want, hurling words or other things, and then having the on immunity to say that this is going to be the blueprint or the reaction or if she is charged. I want to talk now about twitter, which was recently renamed acts and i would know that the acts has currently come down from the San Francisco<\/a> building. But elon musk has now reinstated kanye wests twitter account, which was initially suspended for the why do you think mosque would risk tweets like that back on his platform . Is it part of the notion of, look, free speech he says, he doesnt want anything to get in the way of people being able to voice whatever they feel no matter how problematic . Yeah, i think that he changed the name of the company, but not the practices of the company and so there is no surprise. He let donald trump back on. But acts, or twitter at the time, allowed somebody Who Incited A<\/a> very dangerous mob to come to washington on january six, and now you have somebody who is had very antisemitic things to come back on. So, while they might have changed the name, the intention behind what the platform is supposed to be is changing and it is not for the best. I also think that a lot has happened since they named it acts, and since kanye has come back on. We have new platforms as well, so we have a threads, we have still, we have other alternatives for people to go and actually have conversations in a similar, but not identical way. The audience is finding it to be more refreshing, and so i think elon musk is trying to invigorate his twitter audience, but that day may be gone because people dont like the experiences theyre having, especially when hes looking people like kanye west back on time. I dont know, Social Media Nourishes<\/a> is a big thing. Eric, at let me give you the last word here because i wonder what you think. I heard theres new reporting in the washington journal that ea did promise not to post and i symmetric or her other harmful language to acts. By the way, his account has only 32 million followers, to her point having some be back on to previctory it, is that what this is . Its hard to know what elon musk is doing with us. Yay hasnt posted yet, i just checked before we got on, unless its in the last 20 minutes or so he hasnt even posted yet. For a company that has seen its value plummet, and advertisers flee, the last thing that you want to do to try to restore confidence to advertisers is to say, hey, stickier message next to an antisemite who got kicked off the platform not too long ago. I dont understand the reasoning and bring somebody like a back, one with the need to do is convince advertisers and so many users who have fled that the place is a more welcoming place that is a place where brands can conquer a great. Were hearing that elon musk has some kind of plan to turn ex into an every thing app, actually. Get people to trust their Financial Information<\/a> and other kinds of information to this app in addition to talking to each other on it. If he wants to achieve that, the last thing he needs to do is welcome toxic people who are known for prejudice speech. So, i dont understand the reasoning in bringing yay back, it doesnt make a lot of sense to me. But so many things that he is done with acts, including running away from a brand like twitter that has been established for 15 years, it doesnt make sense to me. Maybe he doesnt like blue birds everyone. I just dont know. Eric jenkins and ashley allison, thank you so much. By the, way the is thinking, how many advertisers want to have eyeballs, no matter what cost. Everyone, next, the iconic and wacky actor and comedian who brought a whole lot of fun generations of kids. I will speak to one of paul reubens very good friends. How you feel, and how you enjoy life. It changes your smile and how others smile at you. Clearchoice Network Doctors<\/a> have changed over 100,000 lives with dental implants, and they can change yours, too. Because a clearchoice day changes every day. Schedule a free consultation. Were reinventing our network. With smarter, more efficient routes. So you can deliver more value to your customers. Fast. Reliable. Perfectly orchestrated. The United States<\/a> postal service. Woman why did we choose safelite . Vo for us, driving around is the only way we can get our baby to sleep, so when our windshield cracked, we needed it fixed right. We went to safelite. Com. Theres no one else wed trust. Their experts replaced our windshield, and recalibrated our cars advanced safety system. They focus on our safety. So we can focus on this little guy. Singers safelite repair, safelite replace. Well there is sad news tonight in the world of entertainment. Actor paul reuben, who created the quirky, man child character of pb harbin. Has now died at the age of 70. They said that reuben has privately fought cancer for years. He is best known forwee herman playhouse that ran on in the 19 80s. But paul reubens has also acted in many movies. Joining now is one of pauls dearest friends, and children, of every body loves raymond, and host of Somebody Field<\/a> fell. Thank you so for joining us tonight. Its a sad day for so many people who grew up watching him. Whose children like my own are now discovering him for the first time thinking that he is a brand new artist, and talent, and comedian. You are close to him. In fact, you are able to reach out. Before his pass a. Can you tell us what you shared with him . He called me a couple of nights ago Out Of The Blue<\/a> to say goodbye. And i didnt even know that he was sick. And it turns out that he called several of his fans to say goodbye. He didnt pass immediately, and so i took the opportunity to write him a sure thing that then i posted today. I will read it to you if you like. They are paul, the world is better because you have been here. You are a genius, an artist, and a unique and singular voice. And best of all, friendly as. I have loved you since the first time i have lovedwee herman. And from the first, i have never lost an episode. Ive kept everything that you have done. Very few people have the ability to create such a lovable character, plus an entire universe around it. Your entire sensibility is so brilliant, and hilarious, and kind hearted, you tapped into a literally personified the joy of childhood. You are always one of my heroes. And a huge influence. So when we met some 25 years ago and got to work together, and actually became great friends, it was a blessing upon a blessing. I love you, my family loves you, you are family. Thank you for being so generous and kind. And carrying, and above all, funny. Your impact on the world will last forever you. Made my life better. Thats beautiful. Did he respond . He sent me a heart, and then he was gone. Knowing that he read that, knowing that he heard and saw those words from you. Your friendship must mean so much do you, can you share with us a little bit about what legacy peewee herman, of course your friend, paul reuben, what does he really have in terms of legacy to you . His body of work, i think speaks for itself. And the work was so beautiful and unique, and so, like i said, kind hearted and loving. And he really did, if youre looking at these clips now, look at this world he created. It is iconic. And it was all from his head. Yes he had help in the brilliant art design and everything. But a lot of the sensibility was right from him. He started studying art in school. He knew what art was. This was a form of art to him. And it was the most important kind. The kind that connects to people, and makes them a little kinder. And more loving. He also had this wicked sense of humor. So he knew that inside every kid was not just this loving soul, but a selfish knife assist. Inside of every kid. Because listen, when you are a little kid, for five years old. When he was playing. The world does revolve around you. Your parents tell you that the whole world revolves around you. So why wouldnt you . Hopefully you go up a little. And your kind to other people, and you realize theres other people in the world. And these are the lessons that he was actually learning as the child character in the show. And then imparting it to not just children, where his primary target, he used to say. I want to girls with this. I want to die laughing. But look at the upper levels. It appealed to us as adults. We could laugh hysterically at wee herman. It was such a brilliant, comedic creation. I would say One Of The Best<\/a> in history. Phil, oftentimes, people failed to appreciate the intellect of comedians. To understand what our form they are creating. And to know what it takes to tap into all of that. Its no wonder he ended his statement by saying i have loved you also much, and enjoy making art for you. Phil rosenthal, thank you so much. Love to you, love to everyone. We are lucky that we had him. Im sorry for your loss, and for people to now discover, and remember, and recall, and reflect on that life. We will be back in a moment. Sometimes Jonah Wrestles<\/a> with falling asleep. So he takes zzzquil. The worlds 1 Sleep Aid Brand<\/a> for a better night sleep. sfsfx ding, ding, ding. so now, he wakes up feeling like himself. sfx Crowd Cheering<\/a> the reigning family room middleweight champion. get the rest to be your best with zzzquil. Its nonhabit forming and powered by the makers of nyquil. Better days start with zzzquil nights. And try zzzquil purezzzs melatonin gummies. Was also the first time your profits left you speechless. At the counter or on the go, save 20 with the lowest Transaction Fees<\/a> and keep more of what you make. Start saving today at godaddy. Com do you struggle with occasional nerve aches in your hands or feet . Try Nervive Nerve<\/a> relief from the worlds number one nerve care company. Nervive contains ala to relieve nerve aches, and bcomplex vitamins to fortify healthy nerves. Try nervive. And, try nervive pain relieving rollon. upbeat music constant contacts advanced automation lets you send the right message at the right time, every time. constant contact. Helping the small stand tall. The former president , donald trump, he does like an entrance. Especially if it is accompanied by a song. But these ironic lyrics played when he walked out onto the stage in iowa. It might even make alanis morissette. One can end up going to prison. Okay, you think i am kidding hair. But thats actually a brooks and dunn song, talking about president. And it looks like he might have been trolling, until you realize, all the candidates walked up to the same song at the lincoln dinner. It isnt, by the way, trumps first ironic walkup song. Fortunate son. About wealthy people dodging the draft of the war in vietnam. Of course you know trump avoided the draft five times, citing spurs. Well, here is another. The rallying cry in this lame rug song is those to go against the rich, elite people in power. Trump is a billionaire seeking the presidency for the second time. A reminder, dozens of artists have taken issue with trump playing his music at any of his rallies. From bruce springsteen, to the stones. I wonder who will be next . Up next, alison speaks to the longtime republican operative, who just quit a pack for iran desantis. Here is why he said, its not the campaign, its the candidate. To sleep, so whehen our windshield cracked, we needed it fixed right. We went to safelite. Com. Theres no one else wed trust. Their experts replaced our windshield, and recalibrated our cars advanced safety system. They focus on our safety. So we can focus on this little guy. Singers safelite repair, safelite replace. Wherever you go. Wherever you stay. All you need is one key. Earn and use rewards across expedia, hotels. Com, and vrbo","publisher":{"@type":"Organization","name":"archive.org","logo":{"@type":"ImageObject","width":"800","height":"600","url":"\/\/ia802705.us.archive.org\/23\/items\/CNNW_20230801_020000_CNN_Tonight\/CNNW_20230801_020000_CNN_Tonight.thumbs\/CNNW_20230801_020000_CNN_Tonight_000001.jpg"}},"autauthor":{"@type":"Organization"},"author":{"sameAs":"archive.org","name":"archive.org"}}],"coverageEndTime":"20240707T12:35:10+00:00"}