Tonight on 360, the former president chooses to be arraigned in person in washington as the governments case in his defense take shape. We will look ahead to tomorrow s Court Appearance with former Trump National security advisor john bolton. Later, trumps trial judge, Tanya Chutkan, what we know about her history with former president. And desantis is that she has already given other january 6th defendants. And in, ukraine a remarkable rescue. Ukrainian soldiers safe with the help of a drone, which you delivered medical supplies and water. Good evening, tomorrow, the former president of the United States will make his second appearance in a Federal Court as an alleged felon. The first was in miami in the documents case. Until donald trump in the 2000 since George Washington was inaugurated, no hold or as the office has had to do that, even once. But tomorrow afternoon, four if the schedule holds, the 44th president since George Washington will enter a Federal Courthouse in washington just a short walk from the capital. He will be asked by a federal majority, not the trial, judge to plea to four counts, detailed in the 43 page indictment connected to his attempts to overturn the election that he lost. An effort that Special Counsel jack smith said yesterday was, quote, fueled by lies. And criminal or, not there were plenty of those lies. The indictment identifies 21 separate lies, that the president told. Lies about nonexistent voter through odd, about violent terms that did not happen. Lies that former Vice President pence had the power, which he did, not to reject biden Electoral Votes. Today, with the defenders suggesting that his former boss was merely seeking a pause in the certification of process, not the reversal of it, now kennedy pence said this. Lets be clear on this, point it wasnt just that they asked for a pause. The president specifically asked me in his gaggle of crack what lawyers, asks me to literally reject votes. Which would have resulted in the issue being turned over to the house of representatives. About, said in a separate, appearance mr. Penan left to the American People, unquote. Which is more than, many though not all of his fellow republican candidates have said since the indictment. In a few, minutes former john boltons take. Also, what security now looks like around the courthouse. But first, cnns paula reid starts us off. Paula, so what is the latest on what we know about logistics tomorrow . We expect the former president will travel here to washington to attend this hearing in person, even though he did have the option to do this virtually. Now this is a courthouse that is used to dealing with the ip s, and people with motorcade. So it is highly possible that we may not see him at all during this court proceeding, there is a garage underneath this courthouse where most vips or people who want to avoid the media can easily pull into. And then of course there are no cameras in Federal Court. But once he is inside, the courthouse tomorrow, anderson, he is effectively under arrest. He will be processed like any other defendant, but we do not expect that he will have a mugshot taken. This issue came up in the manhattan appearance, and the florida initial appearance. Mugshots are for Juanita Speckles in the limb. One of the most recognizable faces in the, world so they have not been taking much of. From now, during this he will not be appearing before judge its a procedure, hearing should be over quickly. You will hear the charges that have been filed against him, he is expected to have the opportunittoand course, anderse expect that to be not guilty. Is it clear where the Special Counsels investigation goes after tomorrow . Because it obviously continues . Thats, right the Special Counsel has made it clear that they will continue to investigate, through our reporting we have gotten some insight into exactly what that means. We know that Special Counsel investigators not to granbury but the prosecutors are gonna prosecute speak to additional witnesses over the next few weeks. Just next week they are gonna speak to bernie kerik. He is a former new york police commissioner, but he also has worked right alongside Rudy Giuliani in all of his efforts to overthrow 2020 election. So that is one of several witnesses that we know they are speaking to through the end of the summer. But anderson, it also speaks to the possibility of additional charges. We know this investigation continues, they could file additional charges against new defendants, or file additional charges like they did down in florida against the former president. But we, know for example, bernie kerik, they will be talking to him quite a bit about coconspirator number one, Rudy Giuliani. So this investigation continues, the choice to only charge the former president initially clearly strategic, and we will be watching and waiting and reporting to see whom elsa may face charges here. All, right thank you so much. Cnn senior Political Mentor and former Adam Kinzinger, former trump medications director anthony scaramucci. Who, we should point, is a supporter of and owner to former new Jersey Governor Chris Christie and in his campaign. Cnn chief political analyst gloria borger, and cnn senior legal analyst elie honig. Elie, just in terms of what happens in court tomorrow, at what point does it go to judge chutkan . So she will have the next appearance, what she will do is, she probably has already set date in the magistrate and said, hey, i want to be parties in front of me. When you first substantive hearing, usually it within a week or two. One that went on quickly. One of the interesting things that will happen tomorrow, typically in the course of being processed, the u. S. Marshals, the court staff, they will run someones rap sheet. Where you get your whole criminal history. It occurred to me today, donald trump is not going to have a zero. She is actually gonna have two other pending charges on that rap sheet, which is actually sadly a first in our history. But other than that it will be a largely formalistic procedure. He will enter a plea, it will be not guilty. They will set a bill, but it will be what recognizance, which means he can come back when he says. But the big thing with the first appearance in front of the judge will be what indication does she give us about the timing and the schedule. Congressman kinzinger, former Vice President pence did not talk to your committee, the january 6th committee, he did to jack smith and they obviously had his contemporaries note. Whether any major surprises to you in the indictment as he looked over it . Not a ton. I mean, look, i wish the Vice President would have spoken. And, you know, i am glad that they got him to speak their. He needs to, but i think, go a step further and actually say whether or not he believes this was criminal. You cant just fall back on i am not a lawyer, i will let the lawyers decide. I mean, i think the things, that i dont get surprised by the, is because i have been so surprised, like my Surprise Glands are all destroyed by now. But the thing that really kind of shock to me was the amount of violence that they were discussing. That these coconspirators were talking about that they knew there would be riots in the streets, Eastman Are Clark that said, yeah, sometimes to paraphrase, the tree of liberty has to be refreshed with the blood of patriots. Also just the continuation during the actual insurrection, 187 minutes. Regionally and others continuing to reach out to try to turn senators nuts, and it feel like real life. It is real life. And that is why it is so important for us to follow through and make sure justice is done. Go ahead, gloria. Anderson, it was shocking to me to hear mike pence talk about crock pot lawyers. It is not the kind of language that you usually hear from mike pence. And i think he is getting a little bit more bold about how he is gonna handle donald trump. Because as he said today, anybody who puts himself above the constitution should never be president of the United States. And he said directly that that is exactly what the former president was asking him to do. So i dont think we have ever seen mike pence like this, and i think it is going to continue to get worse and worse, because i think that he realizes that in order to win this nomination one way or another he has to go right through diagram. But anthony, the person you are supporting, chris christie, has certainly been bold in his commission of the former president. But there is not a lot of other republicans running who have is a hutchinson, will, hurts to some extent. You know, mike pence being bold is not exactly maybe, you know, most peoples definition of gold . Right. I would say it is like howdy duty calling out the bully in a bar, and expecting something to happen. Of course, nothing is gonna happen. So, he is a terrific guy, a terrific Vice President pence. But if you want to win the what have you got to lose . At this point . You have to take on, you know, donald trump. And what shocked me from the New York Times poll yesterday, the times poll said these are over 300 maga supporters. And we asked them, you know, are you just willing to overlook anything in order to vote, you know, for donald trump . There was not one person in that group who thought that donald trump had anything flaws at all to overlook. And i want to get back to the, trial because i, lead the former president s attorney told Kaitlan Collins last night that you thought it could take nine months to a year, given all court dates and stuff for this. I mean, is that a reasonable timeframe . Or is that a wish list from the trump side . That is high to me, i think, in terms of trying the actual case. There are cases, though, that take four, five, six months in order to try them in front of a jury. And even if we got that estimate in half, and say that this will take four months, that is a big problem for prosecutors. Because there is not an available realistic a four month Calendar Spot at this point. We already have between the two trials that have already been scheduled, March Through July is booked. You cannot get it through that. It is too late after that. Now, keep in mind, these trial dates are not set in stone. They can move. The dea who has the march and april date, alvin bragg, he has publicly been signaling that he would be willing to consider trying to move off of his state to accommodate this. When the prosecutors, by the way, there is nothing wrong with him getting together. Fani willis, alvin bragg, jack smith, theyre saying, hey, lets prioritize, if we have room to try maybe one or two trials, which is the most important . Mark meadows, he has referenced once or twice this indictment do you think youve made a deal. I dont know, so im not gonna say he has made a deal. But i do think mark meadows, when push comes to shove, he is gonna side with the law. And i think he is under oath somewhere, he is gonna be telling people the truth. You know . He is not donald trump thats gonna spew out, you know, one live per second when he is with people. So, listen you know, Adam Kinzinger is 100 percent correct. What are you guys doing. Why are you waiting on this. Okay . You have a lawless person who is running a colt inside what used to be Ronald Reagans party. Where is the mantle of leadership in this party . Other than governor christie and slightly Vice President pence. Get out there and go after the sky, and explain to the American People what he is doing. And pop that bubble that his cult is living in. That is what they have got to do. And if they dont do that, he is gonna get the nomination, and we are gonna have a redo of 2020. Ali, i mean, on whether it is mark meadows or others, they have more evidence that it is not in this indictment. Oh for sure. They are saving stuff for a courage . You put halves much evidence as you need to an indictment. Mark meadows know prince conundrum for prosecutors because in the federal system, good prosecutors, there is no such thing as halfway cooperation. So if you take mark, minutes if you are a prosecutor and you want to totally on board with you, and you believe he has committed crimes, he has to plead guilty to those crimes. Now, it is hard to look at this indictment that donald trump is charged, with all these serious crimes, and say somehow mark meadows stayed completely on the other side of the fence and kept himself clean while trump was doing all of this. So either he has pled guilty or world plead guilty, in which case he is a capital c cooperator. As olc is not much used to the government. Elie . Anderson, one thing. Gloria . People ive interviewed about, him inside and outside the white house call him the enabler. He was with donald trump every single step of the way and it is incredibly odd that suddenly he has gone silent, and they believe he knows a lot. And that he was the enabler. 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I think that this product is a gamechanger for my patients it really works. Right now, it is one of the former president s legal woes dont have much of an impact on his republicans, and the indifference that led to millions of dollars in fund raising for him. Now, new polling shows him tied with President Biden in a general election matchup. Our cnn data reporter harry enten is here. I mean, i think i know the answer to, this but how do republican see the charges against the former president . You, know what i find so amazing is now of course he has been that three times. And you might think that with each of these three indictments that they might view each one somewhat differently. They dont. They view them all the same. And it is all either 15 or 16 who believed that he should have been charged. They could charge him with basically anything, and i am not sure that the Republican Base would view it any differently. And that is a big reason why he maintains this lead in the primary. So that is 15, 16, 16, that is people in the republicans who think he shouldve been charged. Thats, correct thats republicans who think he should have been charged. The vast majority believe that he should not have been charged. Just a sliver of the electorate believes so. Okay, i am not sure i even want to see, december but what percentage of republicans see the 2020 election as legitimate . Yeah, you probably dont want to see this number, because the clear majority believe that it was not legitimate. Look at this, over 60 , and cnn has pulled this, any number of times, almost a dozen times i think dating back since 2021. And every single time the result has looked Something Like this. With somewhere between, say, roughly 60 and 70 of the Republican Base who do not believe the 2020 election was legitimate. And i think that that is part of the reason why republicans do not believe that trump should be charged, given the actions of january 6th. Because they believe, you know, basically the 2020 election was illegitimate, and Everything Else there on is putting through his. Rights is that the one through which people see, i, mean how do republicans view, how are their views on the election of 2020 coloring who they support at this time . Yeah so i think this is the key nuggets when trying to understand why donald trump has a lead in the 2024 republican primary race. So if you break it down on their views of the 2020 election, if you believe that trump did not, excuse, me that biden did not win legitimately, look at trumps support, it is into the 60s. If you do in fact believe that biden won legitimately, you can basically slice 40 points off of that. Trump is in the mid to high 40s twenties. So if people actually believe what is, true that is the 2020 election was legitimate, Trump Supporters before. Lesson thats part of the reason i wonder why the other republicans are not going after trump and saying, you know, what he did in fact lose that election legitimately. Because if he did, they might be able to slice his support of they are deciding, you know, what we are gonna get this to trump. The soft hands . I dont know, you know . Not, heard kitty gloves. Harry enten, thank you. Thank you. Former u. S. Ambassador john bolton, Indigent Serving security, advisor also obviously an attorney. Ambassador bolton, youve seen the, indictment alleges the fo