Chutkan, as the former president rants about her online. Chris christie joins me live. Also tonight, details on the plot ukraine says it foiled to assassinate its president , volodymyr zelenskyy. And in oakland, california, burglary, theft, assaults are rising so quickly some Community Members are pushing for a State Of Emergency. Good evening. Thanks for joining us. When 360 signed off friday night, the former president had posted earlier that day what appeared to be a veiled threat on his social network. If you go after me, he wrote, im coming af you. Hes posted attacks on the Special Counsel, his former Vice President and key witness against him, mike pence, and the judge overseeing the conspiracy trial. Today we observed additional Security Measures around judge tanya chutkan. The u. S. Marshal service is not commenting on it. Weve also learned deputies spent part of the day discussing Security Plans for her. The former president has said he wants her off the trial, which he also wants move frd washington. No sign that either of that is happening. Late today Trump Lawyers filed their apply to jack smiths application for a protective order laying out rules for the evidence it turns over n. It, smith cited fridays apparent threat. Todays filing seeks fewer restrictions. Police commissioner bernie carry rack spoke with the team. He worked closely with mayor giuliani, who is one of six coconspirators cited in the indictment. Weve learned geoff duncan was subpoenaed to testify before fani willis georgia grand jury, which could indict the former president in the coming days. None of which, Polling Shows, appears to be costing him ground against his opponents. One of them finally acknowledged the fact about the election, but not on the first try. Whoever puts their hand on the bible on january 20th every four years is the winner. But respectfully, you did not clearly answer that question. And if you cant give a yes or no because on whether or not trump lost, then how of course he lost. Trump lost the 2020 election . Of course. Okay. And joe biden is the president. Joining us now, another republican president ial contender, new jersey governor Chris Christie. What do you make of desantis response there . I still dont think he answered it. Right. He lost. Well, we all know that as a matter of law, he lost the election, right . The deeper question and the one that i think hes dodging is, do you believe it was a full and Fair Election . Thats really the question. And with respect to the interviewer, and i think she let him off the hook. In the end, did he lose . Of course he lost. And i believe he lost because he lost in a full and Fair Election. Theres a lot of republicans i think a majority of republicans do not believe it was a free and Fair Election. I think that shows you the impact that donald trump has had on a lot of people. And that impact started on election night, anderson. When he came out there that night at 2 30 in the morning and said, you know, we won the election, its being stolen, people assume that the president of the United States knows things they dont know. And if youre also inclined to be supportive, you want to give him the benefit of the doubt. And that stuff has just seeped in. He has said a number of times to me personally and ive heard him say to others, you Say Something enough times, it becomes true. That is clearly his philosophy on everything he is doing right now to American People. I know in your book, you wrote about that moment being the key moment for you. We see the former president behaving, the rhetoric against the judge, and even mike pence. Is this just free speech or more . I think the judge will decide that ultimately. To me, though, there are limits on free speech. This is the classic, you cant yell fire in a crowded theater. There are limits on free speech. By the way, when youre a criminal defendant out on bail lets focus on that. He is now out on bail in three different jurisdictions, new york, florida, and washington, d. C. We have a front runner in this race whos out on bail in three jurisdictions. Its pretty incredible. What happens, though, when youre let out is that there are restrictions placed on you for you to stay out. And one of the restrictions that was placed on him was no contact or intimidation of potential witnesses. Hes saying, if you go after me, im coming after you. His lawyers are saying that post was generalized political speech, not directed at anyone. Of course thats what were going to say. What they feel like saying is, oh, my god, i cant believe he did that again. Privately, the lawyers want to jump out the window having to defend some of this stuff. Heres the bottom line on it is that lets put aside if its legal or illegal for a second. Is this the kind of conduct that the Republican Party or the American People want for someone whos going to be president . To send out tweets or posts, whatever they are that he sends on truth social saying this kind of stuff, threatening people, trying to intimidate mike pence, trying to intimidate the judge. You know, mike pence, as we know, he just falls in the line of Rex Tillerson and Jeff Sessions and bill barr and all these folks who were the best people ever when he hired them. Right. And then as soon as they Say Something and extraordinarily loyal also to him. Yes. And as soon as they disagree with him, then they become the worst people on earth. The things he wrote about mike pence. Look, im running against mike. I want to beat him and become the republican nominee, but he doesnt deserve that. He doesnt deserve those comments. The former president s lawyer, john lor row, is defending the actions. He says a technical violation of the constitution is not a violation of criminal law. Does that make sense to you . You know, no. And he admits that the president violated his oath. Think about that. The president of the United States promises to preserve, protect, and defend the constitution of the United States. His own lawyer has admitted he violated the constitution. I want to play something he told laura ingram on fox last week. What President Trump said is, lets go with option d. Lets just halt. Lets just pause the voting and allow the State Legislatures to take one last look and make a determination as to whether or not the elections were handled fairly. Thats constitutional law. Thats not an issue of criminal activity. Did he admit the president committed a crime . Because the president is charged with corrupt obstruction of an official proceeding. Right. He did. And let me say what else he did. You know, hes opposite of what the evidence is. Mike pence has been very clear about this. He said the president didnt ask him to halt or pause. He said that he was asked by the president to reverse it. Right. To reverse the result. And thats what mike pence is going to testify to. I suspect thats what hes already testified to in the grand jury. We dont know for sure because those matters are secret. But i suspect he doesnt say anything different to grand jury. Do you think mark meadows is going to testify . Ive already said i think mark meadows is a cooperating witness. Running into coffee shops away from the press. And hes disappeared in the indictment. Hes referenced once or twice. When you didnt see mark meadows as an unindicted coconspirator and you see no mention of him at all how devastating do you think his testimony could be . It could be the worst testimony outside the family members. Mark meadows was with him constantly. And involved in all of it, in georgia, in the electors. He was a very involved chief of staff, in my experience. He made sure he was in every meeting and every conversation. And we remember there are hundreds of Text Messages that he turned over to the Special Counsel that he kept. And many more that he kept. The former president saying hes going to ask the judge to be reassigned or recused, says he cant get a fair trial in d. C. Is that any of that legitimate . Theyre not going to move the trial. Hes saying because he was appointed by obama and shes been tough on january 6th defendants that that makes her biased. Hes going to have to show Something Better than that to get a judge disqualified. And to get the venue moved the argument is, i dont like the jury pool so im going to get the venue moved. Thats not a basis for moving venue. Do you think there should be cameras in the court in this . Ive always thought there should be cameras in federal court. I thought that if we have state court, i understand that there are times when people are performing for the cameras. But i think for the American People to see because i think, anderson, the Justice System works extraordinarily well in this country. And i think the more we take the veil away from it on the federal side as well and people get to see the rights of defendants being acquitted, juries really considering all the evidence, deliberating, and then ultimately a verdict being rendered, i think that gives more confidence in the system, not less. In terms, i dont know if you saw former attorney general bill barr told Kaitlan Collins last week, the doj case is legitimate, quote, the former president should not be anywhere near the oval office. He didnt rule out voting for the former president in a oneonone matchup against President Biden. Does that make sense to you . Well i understand hes a republican. Not entirely. I think this is something people have been avoiding. As you know, a lot of people some were in the race, some were outside the race have been talking about this. I think part of it is because theres real serious discontent with President Biden, concerns about his age and his health and all the rest of that. I think thats why some people do it that way. But i do think that bill barr, to be fair to him, has been as clear as any former member of his cabinet on the things that he said about the president , how the president conducted himself. His critique has been deaf stating. Yes. I think if bill wants to take that position, i think we need to give him a pass on that one because in the end he has put forward substantive facts as to why donald trump shouldnt be president again. This new poll, 91 of maga republicans think the indictments and investigation against trump are trying to stop his campaign. The argument you have been making consistently and especially now, are you worried that its not i mean, how do you make traction with those voters . Because the argument of those voters is these are two separate questions. People are discontent with what theyve seen, anderson, out of doj. And i cant say i blame them in terms of what happened with Hillary Clinton or rather did not happen and what they see now with the hunter biden plea being rejected, seemingly because the judge thought it was an unfair plea deal that favored hunter biden. If youre a republican, you say to yourself, this looks fishy. So, i think thats where those numbers come from. The separate question is, regardless of that, regardless if you think that his prosecutions are politically motivated or not, theres very little argument about the conduct, the underlying conduct that led to it, inviting people to Washington On January 6th saying its going to be wild, telling them the election is stolen when it isnt, urging them to march up to capitol hill and saying, you know, ill go up there with you. I knew listening to that he would never go. If Donald Trumps worried about breaking a fingernail, he doesnt go, let alone being in danger where people are being violent. Then he goes back to the white house and watches people commit violent acts at the u. S. Capitol and does nothing. If youre not morally responsible then for what happened on january 6th having done that, forget legally, is that the kind of person you want behind the desk in the oval office . Whether you believe he should go to jail or not, whether you believe hes criminal or not, is that the bar now for being president of the United States . Well, not only he may have committed a crime but we think it may be politically motivated. Thats why i say, put that stuff aside and look at the conduct. Look at the conduct on that case. Look at the conduct in the documents case where he was asked for 18 months quietly, privately to give them back. And look at the conduct in the Stormy Daniels case, which i think is a ridiculous prosecution to be brought. But do we really want a president paying off a porn star during an election to hide the fact he had an affair while he was married. Thats my argument and thats why the numbers dont worry me as much as you think they might. When we come back were going to get the governors take on the alleged plot to assassinate ukraines president with president zelenskyy recently in ukraine. 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We learned early on in russias war in ukraine that capturing or killing ukraines president zelenskyy was one of the top objectives. Tonight ukrainian officials revealing what they say was a new plot to kill him and identified the suspect as the saboteur. The latest from Nick Paton Walsh in ukraine tonight. Nick, what more do we know about this alleged Assassination Plot . Not a vast amount, but it is important that Ukraine Security services felt they had to put this out in the public. We know the informant, its not clear what nationality she has, appears to have worked in a peninsula close to the water town of nicolai, where she is said to have gathered information about it that has already happened by ukraines president volodymyr zelenskyy. Shes said to work in a military surplus store, and some of the messages she has been passing back and forth. The Ukraine SecurityServices Show shes being asked to talk about the date, the place, maybe even take pictures of perhaps the Hospital Zelenskyy may have gone to. Its clear this failed obviously. Its all in the past tense. But its also important to point out that zelenskyy is someone moscow would have done anything to try and kill over the past year or so. And informants like this are relatively common. 29 statements by ukraine about intercepting informants like this received over the past few months. But still an important enough moment they felt they had to put this particular instance out in public. Whats the latest on air strikes and Drone Strikes . Reporter weve had a pretty awful last few hours, specifically in pa cross k, a town where a residential building appears to have been hit by two missiles. The death toll is growing, its fair to say, and were also seeing a large number injured, in the dozens. People combing through the rubble, perhaps, as detonations dont. Its important to point out, while these numbers get awful, they are likely, frankly. Weve seen in many towns across ukraine, deeply troubling for civilians here who live in the black of night. You can see behind me waiting for sirens and often russias vengeful rather against Populated Areas where often Missile Strikes do appear to be indiscriminate and take many civilian lives, anderson. Nick paton walsh, thank you. Back now with republican pre