Tonight. Theres a big lineup of news tonight with smart voices on a scary assassination threat. More indictments coming. A republican Loyalty Pledge. An alleged racist slur in that brawl, you know the one im talking about. Also a Serial Killer suspects dna. And the fires burning maui. First, everyone, the threat of Political Violence against Public Officials taking now a very deadly turn. A accused of threatening to assassinate the president of the United States and other lawmakers walled by fbi agents attempting to arrest m. More on that in just a moment. Were learning the man also threatened some of the people who were prosecuting donald trump. He was also seen in public wearing a trump hat. To be clear, this investigation is ongoing, and there is no evidence that we know of to suggest that he was either inspired by trumps rhetoric or directed in any way. Full stop. But it would be irresponsible if we did not identify the noteworthiness of this moment. The threats that donald trump has been accused of making, the intense attacks, and of course a conversation for so many. And he has consistently railed against people that have now been included in those threats made by the person who was killed today. These prosecutors are vicious, horrible people. They are racists, and theyre very sick, theyre mentally sick. Theyre going after me without any protection of any rights by the Supreme Court or most other courts. In reality, theyre not after me, theyre after you. Beginning with the radical left, george sorosbacked prosecutor alvin bragg of new york. [ boos ] who campaigned on the fact that he would get President Trump. Theyve got a local racist democrat District Attorney in atlanta. They say theres a young woman, a young racist in atlanta who is doing everything in her power to indict me over an absolutely perfect phone call. This Lunatic Special Prosecutor named jack smith. Then you have a radical left lunatic known as a bombthrower who is Harassing Hundreds of my people. When threatening and undermining the rule of law, its not just actually the prosecutors that are actually noteworthy here. You realize that the former president does have a long history of going against and going after the judges by name in speeches. Youve seen the tweets, youve seen the truth social poitss. Trump has questioned their credentials, call them racist, political hacks, and disgraceful. I have a trumphating judge with a trumphating wife and family. At least two of these officials have had to have their security increased in recent days. The difference now, of course, between all that youve just seen and the way the compilation, and of course theres more, that is trump is now a criminal defendant. Multiply that by three, of course. And as you know, words may have consequences in the courtroom, and theres still a protective order matter looming before at least one judge that has had an increase in security. Lets begin now with that fbi raid and cnns Senior Legal Affairs correspondent paula reid. Paula, im so glad youre here tonight. Listen, i need you to walk us through what we know about why prosecutors were even looking to arrest this man. Whats the story . He was allegedly making threats against President Biden ahead of his visit to the state. He also allegedly made threats against democratic politicians and investigators working on the cases related to former President Trump. He was facing three charges, including threats against the president , interstate threats, and this charge of influencing, impeding, or retaliating against federal Law Enforcement agents by threat. When s. W. A. T. Agents were big him commands, he allegedly pointed a gun at them. Paula, stand by for a moment. I want to talk about this with our panel right now. Joining me is former federal prosecutor gene rossi, former head of intelligence in the Homeland Security d. C. Department who warned about january 6th. And republican strategist michael singleton. By what paula described and what we know about whats happened so far, we know about the Homeland Security and how there has been bulletin after bulletin at this point cautioning people about one of the biggest threats facing the United States right now, domestic. Its about political grievance being aired in the form of violence. Youre seeing this right now. You have warned about this. You have read the tea leaves more than once. What does it say that this just happened in utah . Well, we dont have all the facts, as you mentioned. But quite frankly, i think that it pains me to say this maga is becoming a rest stop on the long, dark road to extremism. Everything you saw the former president do in the previous clips is very systematic. What you need to do in order to mobilize to violence is you need to otherize people, dehumanize them. All these words theyre using really lowers the threshold of the barriers to commit interpersonal violence. You mean otherize, the person, make the person you hate or disagree with, now theyre somebody whos not worthy of your respect . Yeah, and once you do that, you lower those thresholds. Someone is motivated to commit violence on those individuals. We call that schotastic terrorism. When you demonize an opponent, a group, an individual, and you talk about them, words have meaning. Whats interesting, i wrote an oped in politico about this this weekend, the amount of individuals that have trump that have no previous criminal records that are mobilizing to violence, theyre giving up their marriages, lifestyles, going to jail to commit acts of Political Violence. Its normalized acts of Political Violence. What we havent seen is any prominent republican speak out. Before we came on, i was searching the republican and rightleaning websites. Everything you see is, fbi fake. Nobodys coming out and saying this is bad. Well, you know, at first we know that this is ongoing. We dont have all the possession. All the information. I dont want to accuse the former president , donald trump, of having instructed or inspired in any way what happened in utah. Taking a step back, this idea of the otherization as youre speaking about, the idea of demonizing, the idea of essentially identifying ones political enemy, then hoping to capitalize or act on that, thats growing in our culture in our rhetoric. It is. To his point, hes saying theres no republicans speaking out about this. Whats the rhyme or reason, and is that true . I think most of the republicans are going to look at the evidence, see what comes out over the next couple of days. I think it would be premature to make any statement if i were working for a member until we know all that occurred. The delay would not be in trying to call out the problem of trying to assassinate the president . That doesnt take any research. No, it doesnt, but i think Many Republican members are looking at the angst and anger within the republican party, which you sort of talked a little bit about, and i think this is part are of the course for an extreme form of tribalism. I think this is what happens when, in the past you could look at individuals who had disparate ideological beliefs and say, okay, maybe theyre a political adversary somewhat, well have those debates, but for the most part well beg to differ where necessary, move forward, work on the things we can. Thats no longer the case. I think many people on the fringes i dont think this is representative of most americans, but i think those on the fringes view those who are ideologically opposed as being a threat to their very existence. Once individuals reach that pinnacle in their beliefs, in their values, its very, very hard to stop it. Its almost unimaginable what individuals are willing to do, how far theyre willing to go when they fear my life, my existence is at risk. You know, none of what you said to me means that people should be quiet about even the prospects. The idea of having to sort of get yourself up to that level of saying, this is a problem. Look, as a prosecutor, a as lawyer, you see this. Im sure there are arguments being made to both points about ideologies, about the no longer agreeing, disagree. But some of this is criminal. The idea of trying to assassinate the president , criminal behavior. Indisputably so. What do you make about the fact that there is increased security now for people i mean, theyre doing their jobs. If youre the assigned prosecutor who is overseeing an investigation and a grand jury yields an indictment, my language is precise for a reason. A judge overseeing a case whos been assigned that case. The fact that increased security is happening is highly problematic. Absolutely. When i was a prosecutor, i had a case in which i had some violent defendants. And one of them said that he was going to kill me. And he was in jail. And the u. S. Marshal put security on me. I had a neighbor who did something that was very odd and exotic and put in a Security System for a year in my home. So this is personal to me. But what i want to say is this. I go back to 1950. George clo joe mccarthy had four or five years where he was spouting off things sort of like donald trump, accusing the opponents of vile character flaws, saying things that just were over the top for 1950. Then there came a point, a fork in the road, when the party of mccarthy came out and said, enough is enough, and censured him. I predict that the republicans are going to have an epiphany. It may take another year. But i predict theyre going to have an epiphany. The way donald trump is acting towards the federal judiciary and prosecutors is unprecedented. He is reminding me of other leaders during another part of our history in the 1930s and 40s. They are engaging in jingoism and propaganda and are taking advantage of people who believe in him. Those people who do violent acts, especially on january 6th, they believed in donald trump. They drank the koolaid. I represented one of them. I remember. So he knows that. And i said this on your show about a week ago. The evil genius of donald trump is he knows how to push the buttons of his followers. And he knows the dog whistles. And thats the evil genius of this man. Well, listen. While we wait for the epiphany that you seem to be waiting on with bated breath, and i will be glass half empty in that moment, but im going to fuel my optimism through paula reid. Stand by. I want to go back to paula reid and talk more about this. Sources are telling cnn tonight that Fulton County d. A. Fani willis is expected so seek more than a dozen indictments next week as a part of her overall investigation into the efforts of donald trump and his allies to overturn the states 2020 election. Paula, what are we going to expect to see, what should we expect to see next week in Fulton County . As you know, the District Attorney fani willis has had this longrunning investigation into efforts to overturn the Election Results in georgia. Shes interviewed over 75 witnesses. This is all expected to come to a head next week. We expect that over the course of about two days, she will present a case to a grand jury with the expectation that they will vote to return indictments. Theyre expecting over a dozen indictments, charges including conspiracy, racketeering, rico charges. The biggest question a lot of people have, though, is will former President Trump be charged . Although we cant say for sure, even his own lawyers have said that they expect he will be charged in georgia. Paula reid, thank you so much. Back to the table here. Look, weve been here before. Theres a bit of deja vu happening. There are a lot of accusations that have been leveled against the former president of the United States, particularly with respect to the possibility of the alleged allegations of overturning the election. We know there are people who are closing down certain streets around the courthouse. Theres Security Measures in place to figure out in anticipation. What can we expect to see from that end . They have a blueprint with new york city, miami, washington, d. C. Last week. Once again, when hes calling the prosecutor, the lead prosecutor, a racist, saying horrible things, they really cant take any chances. So theyre going to if this is true, theyre going to make sure that that courthouse is secured. Its a state, so its not a federal issue. Meaning what . Who are the people that are going to carry out youre not going to have the u. S. Marshals involved. Youre not necessarily going to have the fbi. This is a state issue. Theyre going to have to use State Resources and state Law Enforcement. Again, they have a blueprint. They can contact officials in new york, washington, d. C. , to do all this safely. I think weve seen that the crowds havent really amassed as anticipated. I was going to say, the blueprint also includes there has not been the violence. Theres been anticipation of crowd control, but you really remember in miami, there was the guy, sort of the Jail Bird Monopoly outfit, pinstripes. He was taken away because he approached the vehicle too closely. We havent seen much more than that. But this is georgia, shermichael. I point that out because georgia is unique in that these are republicans he was going against. Brian kemp. Youre talking about the attorney general, youre talking about Secretary Of State raffensperger. This is a unique situation because essentially, these are people on his team. Yet a different scenario. Yeah, i mean, i think about florida. Trump resides in florida. He has greater approvals in the state than the sitting governor, ron desantis. The republican turnout, to your point, it was very small. When i travel the country and talk to magasupporting republicans who support trump, many of them look at what happened january 6th and realize, people are getting real jail sentences. While there are some who just do not care, there are a whole lot more who worry about their families, their grandkids. They have to work, they have mort mortgages, rent. What does this mean politically . Politically, yeah, well vote for him but im not risking jail because i have responsibilities that i know the former president probably isnt going to stand by me. People arent as naive as i think we think they are. You represented clients in this business who were part of january 6th. Is the 9087 day, was it a shockwaves in terms of deterrent for future people . You mean the convictions and prosecutions . And the sentences, which of course judge chutkan went Above And Beyond even with the prosecutors in some cases. I represented one client, and i still represent him. And i can say this. That they ate a lot of humble pie. They realized a lot of humble pie. They realized that what happened on january 6th and i go back to what i said. They believed in donald trump. They really did. And the ones ive talked to not my client but others they now realize that, i made a mistake. I put my faith in a man who took advantage of me. And now look where i am. I am about ready to go into a jail cell, or im in a jail cell. So i think a lot of the people who were prosecuted by the Justice Department for january 6th are feeling that, maybe donald trump should be the person who should be in jail, not them. Well see how it foreshadows the indictments that are already there right now. There are a number of codefendants and unnamed, unindicted coconspirators who didnt necessarily enter the capitol per se, but there are issues in other cases. Everyone, thank you so much for joining. Theres a new development in that massive dock brawl. You know the one im talking about. You see it right now, youve seen it over social media. And there is something thats being told to investigators that one witness is saying, that there were racial slurs. Ill talk to the police chief. Plus Breaking News tonight out of ecuador. A president ial candidate has been assassinated at a rally just ten days before the election. Next, cnn is live in hawaii where fires are so catastrophic that some are jumping into the ocean to try to escape the flames. Lahaina is on fire. Oh my god. upbeat music awww. Awww. Awww. Nope. Constant Contact delivers the Marketing Tools your Small Business needs to keep up, excel, and grow. Constant contact. Helping the small stand tall. 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