Do i tend to try the 19 defendants, yes. The calendar is getting quite crowded. You see some of the lawyers on whose advice she this is disgraceful and abuse of power by angry democrats who decided the rule of law its much bigger than watergate. It goes to the foundation of democracy. This is very different and much more serious and much more troubling. If you are just waking up this morning, were glad youre with us. Youre waking up to significant, historic news. Its true. Donald trump has been indicted again, this on Felony Charges for trying to overturn his 2020 election loss in the State Of Georgia and has 18 codefendants have also been charged. Including some of the prominent names, mark meadows, rudy giuliani. Theyre all facing rico, Racketeering Charges. Fulton County District attorney fani willis ordered trump and his alleged coconspirators to surrender voluntarily by next friday and turn themselves in. Rather than abide by georgias Legal Process for election challenges, the defendants engaged in a Criminal Racketeering Enterprise to overturn georgias president ial election result. Prosecutors laid out the sweeping conspiracy in a 98page indictment. It included Trump Pressuring State Officials to find votes after he lost to joe biden. The creation of fake electors to falsely declare trump the winner in georgia. To look for voter fraud. This is trumps fourth criminal indictment. Just a little more than four months. When you add up all of the charges from the Special Counsels classified documents probe and January 6th Investigation Plus the Stormy DanielsHush Money Case in manhattan, trump is facing 91 total charges as hes the republican frontrunner for 2024. We have Team Coverage all morning long. Our Nick Valencia is live outside the courthouse and former Lieutenant Governor of georgia jeff duncan is standing by in atlanta. He testified before the grand jury just hours before the indictment came down. We also have our legal and political experts standing by. Lets start with Nick Valencia, live at the courthouse. Nick, trump is claiming that this is all politically motivated. Reporter and he has been. Explosive rhetoric leading up to this indictment. He had said this was politically motivated. He went so far as to call fani willis a racist. Charging him with 13 counts among a slew of charges he is facing, racketeering charge, which is more typically reserved for mob bosses and gangsters. Donald trump and 18 codefendants must turn themselves in here in atlanta by august 25th. A Fulton County grand jury returned a true bill of indictment. The 98page indictment lists 41 Felony Counts against former President Trump and 18 codefendants to overturn georgias 2020 president ial Election Results. Accusing them of, quote, Unlawfully Conspired and endeavor to conduct and participate in a criminal enterprise. Trump charged with 13 counts in the indictment. Every individual charged in the indictment is charged with one count of violating georgias reck tear, influenced and corrupt organizations act through participation in a criminal enterprise in Fulton County, georgia, and elsewhere to accomplish the illegal goal of allowing donald j. Trump to seize the president ial term of Office Beginning on january 20th, 21. Reporter the indictment also included an additional 30 unindicted coconspirators in addition to the charged defendants. In a statement, trumps attorneys calling the grand jury presentation, quote, one sided and the events of monday, quote, shocking and absurd. Ohio rep jim jordan, a trump ally, tweeting out he did nothing wrong. And House SpeakerKevin Mccarthy saying, justice should be blind, but biden has weaponized government against his leading poli political opponent to interfere in the 2020 election. It was a very intense meeting. Reporter jeff duncan, cnn contributor and former georgia Lieutenant Governor on his testimony before an atlanta grand jury. I can tell you there was the highest level of attention in the room from folks with the District Attorneys office through the jurors. It was just an extremely intense period of time. Everybody was prepared. Reporter the indictments stem from a 2. 5 year Criminal Investigation into trumps alleged interference in the 2020 georgia president ial election, including his call to georgia Secretary Of State brad raffensperger. I just want to find 11,780 votes. Reporter to the fake electors who convened to cast illegitimate votes for trump, the investigation also accuses multiple defendants of harassment of Election Workers and a voting systems breach in rural coffee county. I want to try him and be respectful for our sovereign states. Reporter while fulton County District attorney fani willis says she intends to try the 19 defendants together, its up to the judge on when the trial will proceed. We do want to move this case along. And so we will be asking for a proposed order that occurs, trial date within the next six months. Reporter this was more than just the infamous call that trump made to georgia Secretary Of State after he lost the 2020 election in which he pressured him to find more votes. This is about a slate of fake electors tried to subvert the Electoral College and say that trump won georgia when he really lost to joe biden. And this is really about an overall Pressure Campaign on georgia lawmakers and Fulton CountyElection Workers to overturn the results here after the 2020 election. Fani willis, we were told, initially would take up to two days to present her case to the grand jury. Instead, they spent all day making their case to the grand jury with the end result being indicted yet again. Poppy, phil . Nick valencia see live in atlanta, thank you so much. Joins us now, someone who testified before that grand jury, saw in nicks piece, just hours before the indictment was returned, former republican Lieutenant Governor of georgia, jeff duncan. Jeff, i appreciate your time this morning. First off, the 98page indictment, its now out. You have seen it. Was there anything in there that either surprised you or looked off base from your personal experience throughout this process and this investigation . Yeah. My early assessment is theres really no names on there that surprised me and no scenarios that surprised me. That might come in contrast to republicans all over the country, but this was what we were talking against during the immediate days and months after the 2020 election cycle. The math just didnt add up, right . You couldnt take a tweet and turn it into a factual scenario. So, no, nothing really surprised me that jumped off the page. I want our viewers to hear something you said last night. I believe this is when you walked out of the courthouse about what you hope america takes from this. Here you were. My hope is that americans believe us. My hope is that republicans believe us that this election was fair and legal. I certainly think this is the Tipping Point for us. As republican that cares about the future of this country, this is our moment to hit the reset button. Your hope is not echoed by vast majority of republicans who still say in polling that they believe that biden didnt legitimately win the election. Its not something shared by most of the people running against trump. But you think this one changes things . Yeah. This is certainly carries an even bigger weight than the other ones. As if a federal indictment doesnt carry weight or other states indictments but certainly this added to it. Poppy, im going to be critical of my party. Im going to be critical of those running for president and critical of governors and senator. They know the right thing to do here. The right thing is to call donald trump out for lying, misleading us and taking our Republican Party straight to the ditch. Thats whats happened here. And until we all want to stand up and speak as loudly and clearly as we possibly can that the Republican Party needs to use this as a pivot point, to hit the reset button, to go to a gop 2. 0 that really gets us back to talking about the policies. If 2024 is about the issues, if its just strictly about the issues and not about donald trump, we will beat the brakes off joe biden. He has no positive record on the border, National Security, public safety. These are issues that we can take him to the floor with. But if we just make it about donald trump, were going to continue to be embarrassed and our Campaign Speeches in the Republican Party are going to be from courthouse steps every single day. We can do better. We should do better. This needs to be the wakeup call. I have been vocal about this, we need to have Everybody Running for president stand up together, not because their consultants tell them it makes sense, not because it doesnt feel like a shortterm sugar high, Tell Donald Trump to get out of this race for the good of the party and for the good of this country. Credit for consistency, youve said that after i think this is now at least the third indictment that youve said very similar things about its time to turn the page. Its time to get away from this. Its time to not always be defending or rallying around somebody who has been consistently indicted. And yet, the former president s poll numbers continually seem to go up in moments like this. Hes able to frame particularly in a primary electorate these as political attacks by democrats. To that point, did you get any sense that fani willis in your interactions with her during this process or her team was politically motivated . The former president called her a rabid partisan or the grand jury itself was out to intentionally get the former president . Look, thats Donald Trumps game every time he gets put in a corner, he fights like a kid, right . He calls names. Theres no merits behind it. I certainly didnt encounter any of that. It was a very well informed District Attorneys office, a very wellinformed jury that asked intellectual questions throughout the process. But look, when leaders of your party are telling you that something is true, i guess its inherently natural to belove them. As long as Kevin Mccarthy and others and candidates for president ron desantis, literally fired almost everybody in his campaign. If he wants to turn the tide on where this thing is headed, Tell Donald Trump that hes wrong. He lied. And he needs to get out of the race. Lets watch the deflection in the numbers at that point. So, because as long as this proceeds as a state case and doesnt move to be federal, which i dont think theyre going to have success in trying to move it if they do, in georgia the governor cant pardon someone. If trump were convicted the governor couldnt. It would have to go to a board of parol that has that power. Some conservatives are pushing for the law to be changed. It would give the governor, brian kemp, the ability to pardon. Do you think that that would be successful at all . And should kemp have that power . Could you even see him utilizing it in that way . He is someone who upheld the results in georgia. Look, i think our most important duty right now is georgians to let the Judicial System Play out as it sees fit, as the process is supposed to work, not to create all kinds of workarounds. Thats where we got with this whole mess to start with with the election debacle. Solutions in search of problems. Every minute of everyday. Lets let the Judicial System Play out. If donald trump did nothing wrong, coconspirators did nothing wrong, great. They will have the opportunity to share their story and it will be abundantly clear they should be scotfree. Jeff, people waking up and seeing this, 91 charges at this point, fourth indictment. I dont know why i need to necessarily Pay Attention to this. Can you tell them what your personal experience was like, both in testifying but also being attacked albeit with the misspelled first name by the former president of the United States. Yeah. I found out yesterday when i walked into the kitchen in the morning and one of my sons said, dad, former president misspelled your name. Which i thought was funny. Its geoff with g. My personal experience. This has been going on for 2. 5 years for my family. We didnt get into politics because we wanted power. Policy over politics. That was my motto. If you put the Policy Over Politics well have a much better outcome. Its tough that we have to go through these growing pains. Look, we will learn from this or lose from this. I hope were one of those at that point in time for the Republican Party where we learn from this. That is a surreal Breakfast Kitchen Conversation with your child, i have to be honest with you. Just an average day at the duncans house, right . Honestly, over the last two years not necessarily wrong. Former Lieutenant Governor, jeff duncan, appreciate your time. Thank you. Thank you so much, geoff. There are other big names in this indictment, 18 people listed in this outside of trump. Some of the names youll know, mark meadows, rudy giuliani. More on the charges including the rico law being used when our special live coverage continues. Stay with us. Oh, thats nice. Oh searchable, verified reviewsws. Thats betttter than the ham, and iveve never said that. Booking. Com booking. 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Michael, let me begin with your reaction to what we just heard there from geoff duncan who was Lieutenant Governor during the time all these shenanigans was going on. He presided over the senate when there were all these efforts to get through the fake elector scheme and a republican who praised the entire process that he was a part of here. Your thoughts. Well, hes standing up for what he believes to be the truth of the matter, which is that there was an organized group of people, an enterprise as charged in the indictment who were trying to illegally upset the results of the election. And he feels that truth matters more than party. And therefore hes going to say this is what i saw. This is what i was asked to do or heard others being asked to do. And its just not acceptable. Its not acceptable in the constitutional sense. Its also at a very partisan level not acceptable for the Republican Party to tolerate this sort of behavior. He really is in some sense exercising a profile in courage within the Republican Party because you really are punished within the Republican Party for not teowing the trump line. Good for him. I think that more people like him are needed in politics. And im happy to have him. We dont agree very much politically but we agree on the importance of truth telling and integrity. Joey, to some degree you want to pause for a minute and we showed the 91 charges. Thats since april 1st of 2023. On april 1th, donald trump and no president in the history of the United States has been charged with a felony. Little more than four months later, hes now charged 91 times in four different places, three different entities. This case specifically, part of the issue i feel given the scale is people just shut it out. Right . I cant follow all this. Its such a mess. W