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CNNW CNN July 3, 2024

Indict. And on that note, i will turn it over to you, pam brown, and cnn tonight. Thats quite the turnover there, abby. Sorry. It really happened. Had to do it i understand. You cant bleep it out. He is the leading republican president Democratic Convention candidate. Totally get it. Have a great weekend. Good evening everyone. Im pamela brown. Great to have you with us thon late friday night. There is news happening. Donald trump telling reporters tonight he may be in court on monday. Are you going to your trial on monday . I may, yeah. That is for the 250 million civil fraud suit. The new York Attorney general is bringing that against the former president and his business empire. While in georgia one of trumps codefendants pleaded guilty today, flipping for the prosecution agreeing to testify. Plus historic flooding in new york city. I mean, these pictures, wow. A months worth of rain falling in a few short hours today. Surging flood waters, overwhelming streets. The Subway System and Basement Apartments, even schools. And the looming question tonight, will there be a shutdown . We are now just 25 hours away from the shutdown of the federal government. If there is no deal made and at this hour the prospects, well, they are looking grim. Well tell you what leader mccarthy is saying tonight. Lets begin this hour with our cnn legal analyst michael moore, former u. S. Attorney for the middle district of georgia and Chris Timmons a former georgia prosecutor. Michael, lets kick it off with you. The first guilty plea in the Florida Election Sub Version Case tonight is from the Bail Bondsman scott hall who has flipped and will testify in any future hearings on trials. What does that mean for trump or other codefendants like Sidney Powell . Help us put this in context. Its interesting when you look at this guilty plea, remember that mr. Hall was charged with the grandest Election Stealing Effort in the History Of The World basically and now theyve come down to five Misdemeanor Charges and no jail time. It doesnt even lose his right to vote because he wont be a convicted felon. So if is curious to me why the government needed him and the state wanted to use him in this way. I know part of his plea deal is he will cooperate and give truthful testimony. It may be important in the powell case and may not be. We just dont know yet the depth w of what he knows and may have told investigators. There are benefits to him. He is a Bail Bondsman in georgia. If you have a Felony Conviction you cannot be a bail bondman so hed have lost his ability to make a living in that way. I am not surprised to see him take this. What well find out as we move forward is whether or not he ha information that directly implicates ms. Powell or if this is one of those things where the state was just looking to get the first domino to fall in the hopes that his plea puts pressure on other people like her to take a plea as they try to work their way up the ladder. There is no question theyre trying to move this closer to trump and they are starting at the bottom. It looks like theyve clearly gone to the bottom rung as they are trying to knock the wall down here. Michael, on that note, do you expect an avalanche of plea deals now . I dont really think so. You may see a couple people sort of the low hanging fruit drop off. Im not sure youll see that out of the powell and chesebro group. These are Trial Lawyers experienced, criminal practitioners. Itll take more than somebody pleading to a couple misdemeanors to scare them away from the courtroom. Im not sure this is going to do that. Again, mr. Hall may have some information they think is particularly important that they wanted to get some critical bit of testimony in. We dont know what all we know he testified in the grand jury but we dont know what all is there. Well see. There is no reason for people to rush too much to a plea because they get to watch the whole case in october and november and for the next half a year as the schedule is laid out before they have to make a decision. They get a preview of the evidence the state has in the case. For others, their trial is coming up, right . The prosecutor said today they may offer a plea deal to Sidney Powell or Kenneth Chesebro and their trial is set to begin next month i believe. How do you expect this to play out snp i dont expect either one of them to plead. They are both attorneys and as an attorney a lot of our identity is wrapped up in being an attorney. If they enter a plea unless it is a misdemeanor like mr. Hall did it is going to be a plea that is going to be to a felony most likely rico and theyll have to stop being attorneys at that point. I dont anticipate either one entering a plea unless the state offers a Sweetheart Deal like a misdemeanor, first offender plea like mr. Hall got. Mr. Hall wont be convicted of anything if he successfully completes his plea. First Offender Act Under The State Of Georgia Law is that essentially you never got arrested, never charged in the first place. He can continue to vote and wont be a felon or any of that. There we go. Lets talk about Jeffrey Clark the disgraced former doj official accused of trying to interfere in georgias election as well as three fake electors. They cannot move their cases to federal Court Despite their request. What does that mean . Does it put more pressure on them to cooperate . I think it does in a way that they know they are going to trial in georgia. The thought with going to the Northern District by removing your case there is theyd get a more favorable jury pool. North georgia is much more conservative than the City Of Atlanta itself though the City Of Atlanta is incorporated within the Northern District of georgia. I think when youre looking at a jury pool, the most important part of any jury trial is the jury itself. They are the decider. The most important part of any decision is the person ultimately making that decision. When you look at one jury pool that may be likely to acquit you versus another likely to convict you you are much more likely to consider a plea. I think that is where they are at this point i want to look ahead no you to next week. It is going to be a busy week. Cnn is Learning Tonight Trump just may attend his new york city fraud trial which is scheduled to begin on monday. And that u. S. Secret service has met with nypd and Court Security officials according to our reporting. Of course, as you know, chris, he could also be called to testify. How do you think his presence will impact this trial if at all . I mean, first of all everybody is going to be paying attention to it. You know, a lot of folks around the world are interested in what the former president is up to. Youre right in that the state of new york could call him as a witness in the case. Based on what the pleadings were that indicated he had a strategic interest in the case i dont think necessarily his own attorneys are going to call him. It is possible. Its also interesting if the state called them themselves. My concern with calling the former president to the stand is that he is not going to answer my questions if i called him to the stand. I might be concerned i put him up and it is much ado about nothing. I think theyll probably stay away from him. I suspect his own attorneys will stay away as well so as not to create testimonies that might hurt him in the other trials pending that are in the criminal arena. All right. Thank you so much, gentlemen. Chris timmons, michael moore, appreciate your insight on this friday night. We have other major news today we are covering torrential rain in new york and new jersey. A months worth of rain falling in a matter of hours. Roads, subways, and homes flooded with First Responders jumping into action. Cnns Polo Sandoval is in brooklyn. Reporter pamela, good evening. Even after a very long day of Soaking Rains in new york city you can still see flood waters that are quite literally flowing out of brooklyns prospect park. The flood water eventually makes its way on to some of the nearby streets here and reminds you of the sheer amount of water that fell today in new york city and some of the surrounding regions. Some parts getting a months worth of rain in only a few hours. The result was practically a nightmare for millions of people in americas largest city. The Mass Transit System or at least parts of it practically paralyzed. And tonight many of those aspects of the Transportation System are trying still to get back up and running. New york city mayor eric adams recommending that folks remain on alert tonight and into the weekend though there is some sign of improvement in the forecast. Mayor adams also recommending that folks living in the Basement Apartments be extra on alert because it has proven to be deadly in previous storms. Mayor adams also fighting Back Criticism that the city was slow to respond and to warn people about the incoming storm. Any time you have a flood or major casualty that is part of the narrative, part of the call. I have an amazing team. It did not take me to stand in front of a camera. I have an exmilitary expert in charge. I put out clear orders to all of the men and women of my team that you must lead. If the mayor is the only one that can communicate to the public were in trouble. I have to run a city. Reporter also facing some tough questions today new york Citys Department of education. The chancellor of the School System asked why they did not go with Remote Learning today. School officials explaining that is only considered for extreme circumstances and simply did not apply in this particular situation in terms of what the city is saying about rescues we did see about 15 people have to be rescued from their vehicles during the day and no reports of any injuries or fatalities. All right. Thanks so much. Now to cnns chad myers who is in the Weather Center tonight. Just how much rain fell . What is up ahead . It was the amount of rain in inches but also the rate of rain that made such a difference today that made all of those pictures here. Everywhere you see orange including new york city, the bronx, across queens, all 4 inches of rain or more. There were many places with more than 6 inches and very close to 8 here for jfk. 7. 97 inches of rainfall fell since midnight, an all time high. There has never been a wetter day in jfk history since theyve been keeping track. Even places like brooklyn, over 7 inches of rain from this storm alone. Now, the rain is gone. Its moved off toward Eastern Long Island and by tomorrow is just a bad memory. There will still be showers tonight and overnight. We could see a few spots in yellow of an inch or two but that is about it. This is just about winding down right now. All right. Chad myers, thanks so much. We are just over 24 hours away from a Government Shutdown if a deal is not made. Coming up ill speak with a republican who is calling out members of his own party and well talk to the people who will actually be affected losing pay checks and much needed assistance. Stay with us. A Government Shutdown could be imminent as the house gop is repeatedly failing to reach a deal but could a consensus be reached with nearly 24 hours left on the clock . Take a listen to House Speaker Kevin Mccarthy tonight. I think if we had a clean one without ukraine on it we could probably move that through. I think if the senate puts ukraine on there and focuses ukraine over america, that could cause real problems. Joining us is republican Congressman Mike Lawler of new york. Thanks for coming on, congressman. Tonight mccarthy is sending a message to the senate saying they should drop ukraine aid from their bill. If they do there could potentially be a deal. What do you think . Is it even realistic . I think the most pressing thing right now is to ensure that the American Government is funded and that the American People are not impacted by any potential shutdown. It is critically important that we pass a continuing resolution that can get 218 votes in the house and get obviously 51 votes in the senate. So, you know, we are doing everything we can. Im still here working tonight and through the weekend to avoid a shutdown. I think putting a cr on the floor in the house tomorrow is important. So you would support one without any funding for ukraine . As somebody who has been a supporter of ukraine funding and will continue to be the most pressing issue right now is keeping the United States government funded and open. So whatever it takes to get to 218 votes is important. This is not shirking our commitments to ukraine long term but the most immediate thing is making sure the United States government is open and the American People will certainly not understand shutting down the government over funding of a foreign country. But are the hardliners who have been standing in the way of anything passing and of course averting a Government Shutdown, do you see them softening their stance . Do you see an 11th hour, you know, vote to avert a Government Shutdown . Bring us there on capitol hill where you are right now. The speaker put forth a Conservative Cr and, unfortunately, 21 of my colleagues voted no. A conservetive cr obviously didnt have 218 votes to pass and get into a place where we are negotiating with the senate. We are in a situation now where you have to pass a bipartisan cr or across the floor with less than 24 hours to go to avert a Government Shutdown. And so to the speakers point a clean cr with Disaster Relief is probably the fastest and cleanest way to get to 218. If democrats in the house refuse to keep the government open over ukraine, i dont think the American People will understand that too well. Even, again, as somebody who supports the effort in ukraine. That doesnt make a lot of sense. How did we get here though . At midnight tomorrow the government will shut down if there is not enough votes. Who do you blame for this mess . I blame a party of one. Ive said that. Matt gaetz has used this as a vehicle to try and take out the speaker, threatened to use the motion to vacate. I have no doubt he is going to try to proceed forward with that. This is a guy who is a career politician. He presents himself as somebody who is standing up against, you know, leadership. He is fighting back. But this is a guy whose dad, you know, gave him his seat and basically pulls the strings here, pushing for a Government Shutdown, and this is a guy who has military bases in his district. He is going to put our active duty military in jeopardy. I think its wrong. I think it is disgraceful. I think the way he has tried to allow his personal vendetta against the speaker to hold the American People hostage is wrong. If a shutdown does happen do you think lawmakers should still be paid . People like matt gaetz . No. Absolutely not. Just tonight i submitted a letter to House Administration declining my pay during any potential shutdown. I think obviously when you have active duty military who may not receive their paychecks, when you have seniors and veterans who may be impacted in terms of benefits that they are due, when you have Government Employees who are going to have to show up to work and not be paid all because of a decision by a few folks that is obviously unacceptable. No. I dont think anybody serving in congress should receive their pay during any shutdown. Do you support efforts to oust the speaker . No. I think it is absurd and undermines the House Republican majority. We were elected to govern, to serve as check and balance on joe biden and i think one individual has allowed petty personal grievances to get in the way of the majority. Its wrong. Congressman mike lawler, thanks for your time tonight. Best of luck to you on capitol hill. Thank you. As lawmakers scramble to find a path out of this problem of their own making roughly 2. 2 million americans who are federal employees are trying to figure out how long they can go without a paycheck. That is not even including the 1. 3 million active duty troops and their families. On average federal workers earn between 55 and 65,000 a year. Average pay for an Army Staff Sergeant with eight Years Experience is 48,500 dollars. Many of the Service Members cannot mis

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