You are live in the cnn newsroom. Im jim acosta in washington. Good evening. President biden has a message tonight for republican lawmakers in the House Of Representatives. The brinksmanship has to end. The president s remarks come after congress prepped within a few hours of a deadline that would have hurt millions of americans. The crisis was averted by a rare display of strong bipartisan cooperation, but republican hardliners are outraged that House SpeakerKevin Mccarthy made a deal with democrats. Florida congressman matt gaetz on the republican side says this week, he will call for a vote to Strip Mccarthy of that post. Its unclear whether other republicans will join him. In the meantime, mccarthy says that this is nothing more than a publicity stunt. You know, this is personal with matt. Matt voted against the most conservative ability to protect our border, secure our border. Hes more interested in securing interviews than doing something. He wanted to push us into a shutdown, even threatening his own district with all the military people there who would not be paid. Only because he wants to take this motion. So be it. Bring it on. Lets get over with it. And lets start governing. If hes upset because he tried to push us in a shutdown and i made sure government didnt shut down, then lets have that fight. Lets bring in larry sabato, director of the Center For Politics at the university of virginia, and cnn senior political commentator, scott jennings. Larry, if i have the history right here, no House Speaker has ever actually been removed through a resolution to vacate, a motion to vacate. I think i have that correct. How historic would this be if matt gaetz can pull this off and do you think he can . Well, it would be very historic. Thats east enough to conclude. I dont think he will succeed. You know, jim, half the trick in life is having the right enemies. And if you had to pick an income in the house gop or the house gop clown car, you couldnt do much better than matt gaetz. So thats going to make mccarthy get some help, maybe from some democrats voting present. Its also going to solidify his support in much of the republican ranks. So i think hell be able to survive. Gaetz has made some serious errors himself over the course of his career. I dont know that i would want to be in the position that hes put himself in. Right now, my money would be on mccarthy to survive. Though, obviously, he wont be as healthy in public image as he once was. And scott, you spent some time up on capitol hill, on the republican side of the aisle. I mean, to go from a nearGovernment Shutdown, which would have been blamed on house republicans, to a Leadership Crisis that is being instigated by matt gaetz, is this something that you would advise if you were still up there. Well, no, i certainly wouldnt advise people to oust Kevin Mccarthy, because hes done a darned good job as speaker of the house under a really closely divided house. Hes pulled numerous rabbits out of numerous hats, including one this weekend. Gaetz and all the buffoons that follow him are all personally and selfinterested. Many of them are running in statewide primaries for other offices back in their home states. Theyre not there to govern. Theyre there as Speaker Mccarthy said today, they dont want to secure the southern border, they want to secure more tv time. So i theres no advice, though, to be given to these people, because they dont want advice. And i think Kevin Mccarthy will survive. And i think its important to remember that the speaker of the house works for all 435 members. Its not like the senate, where the parties pick the leader. The speaker of the house is the speaker for everybody. We saw a bipartisan vote this weekend. We may see a bipartisan vote to keep the speaker. To me, thats a good signal to the American People that there may be a Bipartisan Coalition forming that says, were tired of this absolute nonsense of gaetz and his ilk. And larry, to that point, i tried to ask a Freedom Caucus member, Republican Congressman bob goode of Virginia Whether or not he would support ousting Kevin Mccarthy as speaker, and i asked him multiple times during the interview, and he would just not answer the question. Lets take a look at that. Why not say youre linking arms with matt gaetz and youre ready to oust him as speaker . This isnt about personalities or individuals. Is there somebody else you might be interested in as speaker . Well, we will cross that bridge if we get to it. Youre not going to the, i guess to the position at this point that he should be removed as speaker. Speaker mccarthy fought through 15 votes to become speaker. I would like him to bring that same intensity to fight to cut our spending. And so, it sounds like hes not your guy. I guess i just dont understand why not just come out and say it. That kind of performance is why i voted against him 14 times during the speaker battle. One last chance, should he stay or should he go . Im focused on us doing our job for the American People. And if that takes place, well see what happens. Larry, i think if matt gaetz does not have bob goode on his side, it doesnt sound like this is going to go that well. Yeah, you would think that he would probably side with gaetz. Although ill have to tell you, hes my congressman. Im glad it was scott that used the word buffoon, because it really applies here. I dont think theyll succeed. And probably, some of the people who have been matt gaetz associates and backers realize that already. Its very difficult for this to succeed. And they dont want to be associated with another losing effort. And particularly one led by matt gaetz. So as i said, the stars havent completely aligned yet, but probably mccarthy survives. The real question is whether gaetz does this over and over and over again. Because as i understand it, and scott worked up there, but as i understand it, he can do it as many times as he wants. Until the rules are changed. Maybe the house will decide that its important to have ten members submit a motion to vacate, rather than just having one person be able to do it. And you can see gaetz doing it repeatedly. And scott, i mean, you were just saying a few moments ago, mccarthy has been effective as speaker, but he did put himself in this position, where his leadership can be challenged, as larry said, multiple times. He kind of did this to himself. Yeah, its one of the yeah, its one of the deals he had to cut back when he was trying to become speaker in the first place. And many of us predicted at the time that it would it would eventually come back to revisit him. And it is. My suspicion is, is if gaetz tried to shut down the house by doing this over and over and over, people would get tired of it and they would change the rules. And they should change the rules, because its not right for one person to impose their will on 434 other people. And its not really right for one republican to impose his or her will when youve got the vast majority of the rest of the conference going one direction, you want to go another. Youre not in the majority of your own party, youre in the majority of the house. Thats not the way the house is supposed to work. Its a majoritarian institution being hijacked by a very fringe minority. Its almost like creating a filibuster of sorts for the House Of Representatives. Yeah. A little strange. And larry, let me ask you this. I want to see if you can weigh in on congressman Dean Phillips stepping down from the democratic leadership role. He has openly questioned having joe biden whether joe biden should run for a second term or whether there should be a primary challenger for President Biden. What do you make of this and, it sounds like, i mean, we were talking to Maria Cardona about this earlier on in the program. Sbel as well as Debbie Wasserman schultz, it sounds like dean is rather lonely in this regard when it comes to democratic lawmakers. He is probably the only one, in fact, i dont think there are many of them privately who have expressed the kind of doubts that Dean Phillips has. Its his right. Hes an elected official in the party, he can say whatever he wants, but there are consequences for doing what he has done. He has isolated himself. Maybe hell be proven right, eventually. I dont think so myself, but its possible that he will be. But being a prophet doesnt always make you popular in your own time. And he clearly is very unpopular within the Democratic Caucus right now. Scott, i guess, one of the things thats kind of interesting about all of this is that the democrats and their leadership were rather efficient and streamlined, in, i guess, showing phillips the door perhaps he saw the light and thought it was a good time to leave. Whereas on the other side of the aisle, its not that disciplined right now. How do you see Kevin Mccarthy getting through this next period . The Republican Leadership is fine. Its the fringe of the party, fringe of the fringe, and the fringe of the democrats causes them some headaches from time to time. Phillips may be lonely as it relates to democratic elites, but he is not lonely as it relates to democrats in every poll ive ever seen who would really prefer it if biden didnt run and they had other options. I can see why theyre doing this. I believe its a long shot. They have changed the rules to make it nearly impossible to make him get rid of joe biden. But its quite obvious democrats are nervous about bidens prospects in 2024 and they wanted some other choices. Yeah, its when you talk to democratic lawmakers, i mean, its almost every one down the line, theyre just not going in the direction that Dean Phillips is trying to go. Scott jennings, larry sabato, thank you very much, guys. Appreciate it. Thank you, joe. In the meantime, democrats in washington are fighting for congress to authorize aid to ukraine that was snipped out of that continuing resolution to keep the government open. Next, what it could mean for the fate of that country as it defends itself against russia. And later, a new surge at the u. S. Mexico Border that has one city calling it a humanitarian crisis. Plus, this weekends u2 concert was something that was just about out of this world. Fu if you havent seen this yet, youll want to take a look at this. The performance they put on at the sphere in las vegas. Its a venue youve never seen before. Well take a look at it. Youre live in the cnn museroom. I want to assure our American Allies and the American People and the people of ukraine that you can count on our support. We will not walk away. The vast majority of both parties, ill say it again, democrats and republicans, senate and the house, support helping ukraine stop playing games. Get this done. Joining us now to talk about this, retired Lieutenant General mark hertling, a cnn military analyst. Thats the president there calling on congress to get busy and pass that funding to continue to support the people in ukraines continue to support that fight against the russians. Of course, as you know, was snipped out of that Stopgap Spending Measure to keep the government up and running. I guess your thoughts on this, j general huertling, what happens if congress doesnt get it done and this funding drys up . What message does that send . What does that do to the ukrainians . Theres a couple of things. First of all, theres a very small minority in congress who are sabotaging the United States foreign policy. And they are influencing in a negative way a fight for democracy and sovereignty and protection of an entire culture and its people by withholding this aid. We have been the leaders in this effort, with our western allies, 50 of them, the last time that they met at the rahmstein conference, and for the United States to go through the things that President Biden talked about this morning is just despicable in terms of being caused by a very select few in congress. Jim, you and i have talked about, you know me. Ive spent 16 of my 38 years in the military overseas. And people in other governments watch us very closely. They trust us to do things. And when theyre seeing the kinds of things that are taking place in america right now, they lose some of that trust. So its not only just how its affecting ukraine, which is critical, its also affecting how theyre trusted on the world stage. And could this have a psychological impact on president zelenskyy, on ukrainian forces. Zelenskyy was just here in the United States in the last couple of weeks, going up to the United Nations general assembly, going up on capitol hill, taking photos with lawmakers who couldnt get this passed over the weekend. And to have the rugged pulled out from under him, i have to think that that would have some kind of an effect. Yeah, it would certainly have a psychological effect. And im sure that there are leaders in ukraine right now who are concerned about this. The president , our president , President Biden promised that this would get done, but he also had a deal with the Congressional Republicans that they would include this in the package in the first place, in the initial deal that he made. So it will be a hard push, but in order to regain that trust, which we need on the multinational environment, this has to be done very quickly. There cant be any delays, because its not only going to affect how other people see the United States, its going to affect the way ukraine continues with their offensive, which truthfully is gaining some momentum in both the southeast and the east. So it has to continue, and it has to be done quickly. There cant be any delays in reestablishing the funding for the weapons and the equipment that go to the Ukrainian Armed forces. And if the u. S. Fails to get this out of the congress and over to the ukrainians, isnt that a win for putin . Doesnt that bail out Vladimir Putin . I mean, the ukrainians have had him up against the ropes for some time now. I mean, this was all supposed to be over months ago, from their Point Of View in the kremlin, and this would just come at a perfect time for Vladimir Putin, and just bail him out, wouldnt it . Yeah, well, i would go one step further than that, jim. I would say that it already has been a win for putin and those who think like him. They have seen the turmoil and the dysfunction in our government in several ways. This is just the latest one. So they are continuing to use that mantra, among some of our allies, to say, the United States is not dependable, you should not trust them as your allies. You should trust us. And, in fact, it may give mr. Putin, and im sure it has, if i were a political leader, i would say, this is a perfect opportunity, to continue to try to extend this conflict, more and more, and its going to be difficult, but i think part of mr. Putins strategy is to make this a frozen conflict, like hes done in four other nations in europe. So, yeah, i think it certainly does help him, but i think more importantly, it shows the world that there are times when we cant be depended upon, because were leaning towards autoaccurateautocrats and dictators. General mark hertling, as always, we appreciate it. Thank you, jim. And the City Of San Diego says a new surge of migrants is now a humanitarian crisis. A closer look at the problem, thats next here in the cnn newsroom. Cmon, were right there. Cmon baby. Its the only we need. Go, go, go, go ah Touchdown Baby touchdown are your neighbors watching the same game . Yeah, my 5g Home Internet delays the game a bit. But you get used to it. Try these. Theyre noise cancelling earmuffs. I stole them from an airport. Its always something with you, man. Great solid greek salad . Exactly dont delay the game with verizon or tmobile 5g Home Internet. Catch it on the xfinity 10g network. Border, San Diego County officials are asking the federal government for more resources to help with a major surge of migrants in recent weeks. They just declared a humanitarian crisis saying u. S. Border agents dropped off around 7,500 migrants in the county over just the last 13 days. 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