For the very first time ever, republicans have successfully ousted a sitting speaker. Kevin mccarthy only serving for 269 days. His speakership undone by eight republicans. The ripping off of the bandaid. Thats what we need to do to get back on track. I do not regret negotiating. The government is designed to find compromise. The era is definitely over. Theyre in total disarray. They need time to figure out whats next. I think the American Public understands what were doing and fully support it. President biden is going to aim to strike a tone of business as usual. The house cannot do anything until there is a speaker elected here. Good morning from washington, d. C. We are live outside the capitol. The House Of Representatives is paralyzed after Kevin Mccarthy became the first speaker in the history of the chamber to be removed. That Means Congress cant do its job for the American People and no one is running the show, at least not officially or formally with weeks left to prevent a Government Shutdown. The office of speaker of the house of the United StatesHouse Of Representatives is hereby declared vacant. What a moment. The house has been plunged into unprecedented chaos at a critical moment for our nation. Republicans are now scrambling to find a new leader after a rebellion of eight led by matt gaetz was able to topple mccarthy. If todays world if youre sitting in congress and you took a gamble to make sure government was still open and eight people can throw you out as speaker, and the democrats who said they wanted to keep government open, i think you have a real divide. I think you have a real institutional problem. That is not a government that works. That is chaotic. It is anybodys gue guess wh might succeed mccarthy. Names emerging House Judiciary chairman jim jordan, majority leader steve scalise, kevin herns name also out there. Our Congressional Correspondent lauren fox is here with us. Good morning to you. No speaker. Never happened. Where do we go . Historic times. Uncharpted territory. We are in a place where the future of what will happen on the floor is uncertain, and a large question looming what does this mean for republicans ability to keep their majority in 2024 . Former House SpeakerKevin Mccarthy vowing not to run for speaker again. After an unprecedented vote tuesday plunging the House Of Representatives into chaos. Unfortunately, 4 of our conference can join all the democrats and dictate who can be the republican speaker in the house. I dont think that rule is good for the institution, but apparently im the only one. Reporter the motion to vacate was filed by representative matt gaetz who, along with seven other gop members, voted to oust the speaker. With democrats votes, the motion passed 216210. Those eight people are anarchists. Reporter mccarthys speakership was the third shortest in History Andrd plagued with gop infighting over spending cuts, Borpder Security and providing aid to ukraine. You all know matt gaetz. You know it was personal. It had nothing to do about spending. Speaker mccarthys time is over. I wish him well. I hope he finds fruitful pastures. Reporter now the race is on for House Republicans to elect a new speaker as another possible Government Shutdown is 44 days away. What id like you to take away from it is im tired of being lectured by people who have been here for decades and have put us in 33 trillion in debt. Reporter several names have emerged as possible contenders for speaker including House Majority leader steve scalise. Scalise has already started reaching out to members, gauging a possible bid for the role. No one really knows who has the votes, so now were going to go through that exercise right now and see who has our support. Reporter another possible name floated is House Judiciary chairman jim jordan. I thought it was unfair to kevin. He was a good man, and he didnt deserve this, in my judgment. Will you run for speaker . Thats a decision for the conference. Reporter one person not interested in the job is gaetz. Are you putting yourself forward for the speakership . Absolutely not. Reporter mccarthy, for his part, says he has no regrets about his tenure as speaker. I dont regret standing up for choosing governing over grievance. It is my responsibility of it is my job. Reporter and as you can expect there is palpable frustration within the republican rank and file as many members believed Kevin Mccarthy was doing as good of a job as anyone could, and the reality is if they keep the turnt Rules Package, which hard lliners ar probably going to insist on, the next speaker will deal with the same problems. You have a lot of work to do the next couple of weeks to do. Appreciate it. Joining us is one of the republicans who supported Kevin Mccarthy, congressman lawler. Appreciate your time this morning. Not a joyous time in the building behind us or within your conference. Getting a sense of what the landscape is, do you have somebody in mind now that Speaker Mccarthy has taken himself out, to be the next leader of the conference . I do. But i think there will be a lot of questions that have to be answered by potential candidates. Who . I will not say publicly. I think there needs to be a reckoning within the conference, accountability for the eight individuals who selfishly up ended our House Majority and put their own interests above the country, above the conference, and above the institution behind us. What does accountability look like . To me, they need to lose their Committee Assignments and there needs to be consideration as to whether or not theyre even participate of the conference. We had House Republican conference rules that require a majority of a majority before bringing the motion to vacate to the floor. The fact these eight individuals teamed up with aoc, omar, bowman who pulled the fire alarm the other day to upend a vote. And hakeem jeffries. Its wrong. They voted for a check and balance on the biden agenda. They have torpedoed the work we were doing. They talk about the need to spend single subject Spending Bills. They have delayed that indefinitely and, frankly, be put whoever the next speaker. I want to know from any potential speaker how they intend to deal with those eight, number one. Number two, i want to understand what they did to support Kevin Mccarthy, whether or not they stood up and fought for Kevin Mccarthy and our majority. I also want to understand how they intend to deal with house rules going forward. This motion to vacate needs to go. Do you think theres a Rules Package you need the votes for that as well. This motion to vacate of one person disrupting the entire house and holding everybody hostage needs to go. It is not a workable situation. Kevin mccarthy did a phenomenal job as speaker, and he was severely underestimated time and again by the media, by the democrats and, frankly, by republicans. And he delivered on a lot. But you had a handful of people for petty personal reasons who decided their interests mattered more than the country. I think its disgusting, and i think the rules need to be relooked at. Do you think can you get the majority . I will fight like heck to get that person to do it. I think this country needs to move in a different direction. You fought for mccarthy and hes gone. Thats not an indictment of you. Im trying to figure out the dynamics of your conference. Kevin mccarthy earned the speakership. He earned my support, the sporp of the overwhelming majority of our conference. Hes a good man who fought for this country, who did the right thing. The republiason hes removed, ht the government open. What a disgrace he did not want the government to shutdown. How do we fight for conservative principles, conservative ideas but understand the reality . I have people in my conference who didnt seem to grasp the fact were in a divided government. That thought if we yelled we want 1 trillion in discretionary spending, it will happen. Its a joke. But those people are still in your conference and have still made clear that Top Line Level is what they want. My broader question is ive watched this all play out has been nothing will change. I think its incumbent on the conference to change it. Not any one individual. Ive been saying that for weeks that the conference needed to push back forcefully. This was not on the speaker alone to do it. And i think its important now that were in this situation, whoever the next speaker is, is going to have to deal with this head on. As far as im concerned for my vote, that will matter. The reason why Kevin Mccarthy got to be speaker of the house with a slim majority, what do you tell constituents back home in terms of what you are accomplish, how governance is going right now . Look, in new york we have oneparty rule. Democrats have created an absolute mess. We have an affordability crisis. A crisis at our southern border, a Migrant Crisis Adams says is destroying new york city, kathy hochul said theres no more room at the inn. We need to stop the influx at the border. The American People elected a republican majority because of the ideas, because of the policies, because the defensemen policies failed miserably. So what we need to do is show we are worthy of that trust and support, show that we can actually govern. Have you . Up until this week, yes. The American People expect us to quickly choose a speaker and get back to work. Theyre not interested in the petty partisan divide. Theyre not interested in the internal grievances. Theyre interested in us advancing the ball forward. We have a lot of work to do between now and November 17th to reduce spending in this country. Joe biden increased spending by 5 trillion in two years. It is unsustainable. 9 billion Budget Deficit next year. 13 billion the year after. This is unsustainable across the country. If we dont get serious about reining in spending, deal with the migrant crisis and stop the sanctuary city policies, the right to shelter that somehow is being interpreted to mean if youre a migrant you get free housing, free health care, Free Education all at taxpayer expense. This is absurdity and needs to stop and we need to get serious. Its worth noting, we werent able to coalesce behind a border bill because of where your conference is, one of the many challenges. Congressman mike lawler, appreciate it. Thank you. We are also going to speak to one of the eight republicans who voted to oust Speaker Mccarthy. Plus this. Are you coming back tomorrow . A big day. The former president will be back in court for day three. Why the judge rebuked him and handed down a gag order. Stay with us. Welcome back. It is a beautiful sunny morning in the nations capital. Coming to you live from washington where there is no speaker of the house for the first time in history and the Republican Party has no clear leader here. The house gop resembles a failed state. The party elects people with no capacity to lead members who have no interest in being led. No need to commit it to memory, thats what google is for. Its harsh but fairly true. The wall street Journal Editorial Board writes, a band ousted House Speaker mccarthy. They now have the chaos they wanted. It isnt clear what else they hope to achieve. Their clever plan seems to be to cut off their own heads. With reaction and thoughts, cnn Congressional Correspondent, thank you for being here. It went the whole way this time. But boehner faced a similar moment. It wasnt brought to the floor. He faced the rebellion and then leaves. Your thoughts as we watch this going full force and where it leaves us. You worked for him, right . You are a conservative who believes in the cause and now there is no speaker of the house. Its a really different situation when john boehner was retiring. He wanted to retire before it all happened in 2015 when eric cantor lost. Ba he intended to retire by the end of the year. Democrats were not driving when the vote was called, because they were up for mario cuomos funeral. Its hard for me to sit here and not think about the times i spent walking up to this building with awe and reverence. In terms of our government and our politics. I thought january 6th was rock bottom. This may be rock bottom. We had a congressman who is accused of sleeping with a minor, who is under an ethics investigation, just made history by ousting the speaker of his own party with the help of democrats and he ran to the cameras to fundraise off of it. Has no plan. I think we needed to look at that situation and be like, where are we now . We have a President Trump who is four times indicted, 91 federal counts against him and is running for reelection another time against a president who is, quite frankly, struggling to get one foot in front of the other. How is this where we are in congress . I cant help but to think back with my time with boehner he and hope we had adults in the room. This feels like rock bottom. The adults arent here anymore, to use your framing of things, because what have came to fruition yesterday. The cover of the books. Paul ryan decided to leave because hes over it. And Kevin Mccarthy has been deposed as well. The entire generation of new republicanism that was supposed to take over the mantle is gone, and what theyve been replaced with, this is a different level. It is a different level. Part of why theyre gone, paul ryan also wasnt really able to manage this growing extreme faction within the house gop and boehner wasnt either. Thats why paul ryan is gone. He talks about he doesnt always agree with the direction his party is headed in, doesnt support the standardbearer donald trump. Would prefer someone else to be at the top of the president ial ticket. When push comes to shove, Kevin Mccarthy decided to time and time again make decisions that emboldened that hardright faction and decided to make it so they could only have one person bring the motion to vacate. And even yesterday during his meeting with the caucus or the conference when he decided to say im not going to run for speaker again, the fact that he said, im not going to sell my soul to the democrats shows he was willing to do what the extreme republicans wanted verps us negotiate a little bit with democrats. One thing that strikes me is that the eight people who voted to oust Kevin Mccarthy were the same people who on friday when the speaker was offering them, not every Single Member but its generally the same group of people when the speaker was offering a shortterm Spending Bill with 30 cuts over domestic Spending Areas and Border Security. Didnt take it. And now ukraine. I could not have thought of a more conservative shortterm Spending Bill. They said no to it. What other choice does the speaker have . His allies have been arguing he wanted to keep the government open. He was going to just have to have a shortterm Spending Bill that the chamber across the way, the United States senate, was going to pick up and take. We talked about this before but for people just joining us, what do they need to know this morning about this . For the first time in American History no speaker of the house. Theyre gone for a week now and theyre going to come back and maybe figure it out. What does that mean if there is a crisis in this country, if theres a disaster in terms of how paralyze this had is . Theres a couple things we know and a lot of things we dont. One of the things we know is patrick mchenry, the interim speaker at the moment, he has very limited power. He can run a speakers race. That is what can he do on the floor of the house. They cant pass legislation. They cant avoid a Government Shutdown. There are some open questions about how committees function, if they can function. Technically the answer is, no, they cannot. Then you had people saying yesterday they want to investigate for the impeachment inquiry. Theres a lot of unanswered questions. Its a strange spot to be in and not know the answer to every single question. Dont mean to put you on the spot. Theres a lot of parliamentary experts who will be looking through their notes to understand whether or not they can do x, y, or z because we are in an unpress denied moment, in a Historic Place right now. I think it bears reminding the American People that there are a lot of smart people here. Mchenry is technically not in the line of succession because hes pro tem. He cannot even adjourn the house without senate consent. Its a very weird period. What do they want . Laura makes the most critical point here. They offered a top line that was a dramatic 3