Right here to cnn news central. Right now republican candidates seeking to be the next House Speaker are facing a divided conference. More moderate republican members are calling for a change to the powerful tool that matt gaetz used to oust Kevin Mccarthy. Currently the rule allows for a single republican member to offer up a resolution that would remove the speaker. Now a growing course of moderates say they dont want that chaos seen on the house floor yesterday to happen again. Lets take you live to capitol hill with cnns manu raju. So far two republicans have officially thrown their names up for consideration, Steve Scalise and jim jordan. What are they saying about some of the most divisive issues theyll need to deal with almost right away if they become speaker. Reporter right now theyre trying to say they can unify this badly divided congress, culminating in the historic note yesterday. Unprecedented removal of the House Speaker by his own colleagues after Kevin Mccarthy lost his job after seeing eight republicans break ranks, vote with democrats, to push him out of office. Now those members, jim jordan who chairs the House Judiciary Committee and also steve ska lease who is now the number two republican in the conference contending they can try to bridge the divide within the conference between one of the more moderate members, the mccarthy allies and some of the far right members. Thats easier said than done. There are a whole range of issues that divide them. One is how to deal with the socalled issue of a motion to vacate, pushing out the current speaker. A Single Person can do it under those rules. More moderate members want that gone. Mcconnell lent his support to the more moderate members. There are policy issues, like the issue of ukraine. Such a central issue right now being pushed hard by sending gop leaders and by the white house, but something that has divided house republicans. Kevin mccarthy when he was speaker put the brakes on more ukraine aid. What will the next House Speaker do . Such a key question. I put that to jim jordan earlier today, and he made clear hes not in favor of a new aid package for ukraine. With ukraine, are you willing to move forward with an aid package if youre speaker . Im against that. The most pressing issue is not ukraine. Its Border Security and crime on the streets. It doesnt make sense to put it on the floor without conversation about why were doing it. Reporter that last comment is from kevin hern. Hes flirting with a possible bid for speaker as well, also taking a more measured approach on how he would deal with ukraine, saying he would review it first before going ahead. Jordans comments undoubtedly already im hearing concerns from the holloways from members, people who support ukraine aid, worried that if he becomes speaker, that could cut off the billions of dollars going to ukraine. He didnt go as far as to say he wouldnt allow any dollar to go to ukraine, but his comments certainly are a warning sign. Theres a long way to go before any of these men could be elected speaker. They have to get nominated by the conference next week on a majority vote. Then a majority of the full house, 218 members, need to vote to elect the speaker. If only five republicans break ranks, that could be enough to undercut it. Just a lot of questions in this Leadership Vacuum as republicans grapple with whats next. One key question over the snowfallout from what we saw yesterday, and thats what we saw to Congressman Matt Gaetz who led the effort to oust mccarthy. Youre learning there are some members who want him expelled. Reporter major frustration, they say what he was doing was completely out of bounds, that he was doing it for a personal vendetta, going after Kevin Mccarthy to boost his own profile, raise his fundraising numbers, something that gaetz has denied. There are still support to boot him from the Republican Congress altogether. I talked to republican freshman mike lawler who represents a swing new york district. He told me he does Support Kicking out matt gaetz from the conference. That would require twothirds majority support. Well see if it gets to that. That just shows you just the bad blood that still exists over matt gaetz and those seven other republicans who voted to kick out Kevin Mccarthy. The question is can they put the pieces back together, get their agenda going forward, name a new leader. All are still major questions over this conference at this key time. And looming on the horizon, a potential Government Shutdown in some 40odd days. Manu raju live on capitol hill, thanks so much. I want to talk more about with Republican Congressman dan hugheser from pennsylvania. You heard manu lay it out that the new york gop rep, mark lawler told manu raju he supports kicking matt gaetz out of the conference. Im wondering what you think about that . Do you support that as well . Do you think there could be enough votes for that to actually happen . The only way you can really kick someone out is if theyre doing actions that are unbecoming of a member of congress. There are ethics issues as well that matt gaetz is facing, but i dont think any of that is grounds for terminating his tenure here. His district will deal with that. Thats who votes, thats who sends him here. I do think he was dead wrong. I do think they weaponized i do believe they weaponized the use of vacate the chair. Vacate the chair has been in existence for a long time. Nancy pelosi is the one that removed it. All that being said, we have far more important things to worry about than the future of matt gaetz. Congressman jim jordan and Steve Scalise, they have officially thrown their hats in the ring in this race for speaker. Will you support either of them . Actually, theyre my top two who i would like to see run and be speaker. Both jim jordan and steve ska lease are very high quality individuals. I know them extremely well. They have great moral fortitude. They are talented. Theyre dedicated, theyre patriots, theyre conservatives. Yeah, they know what theyre doing. They both would be excellent. If you had to vote today, who would it be between the two . Im not sure yet. We will hear what they have to say. Im also interested in their priorities. That matters to me. We have to get beyond some of the little things, the symbolic gestures that seem to be what some members like to engage in. We really need to dig into our budget. We need a strong conservative budget that is not just conservative, in the interest of the American People, we have to get some fiscal sanity. Weve got to deal with the border and i believe we need to bring Impeachment Proceedings on secretary mayorkas, not to weaponize impeachment, which i cant stand, but because he is derelict in his duties of enforcing our immigration laws. And there doesnt seem to be any correction in the near future. We have to build our brand so as the American People believe that were on their side, middle income, low income, high income. And in so doing, it should allow us to win the white house which is key to the future of america. Of course, as you know, the administration says, look, the ball is in Congress Court as it pertains to the border and figuring out a comprehensive solution to whats going on there. I do want to ask you, jim jordan says hes opposed to more aid for ukraine. What do you think about that . Do you agree with him . Whats the fate of ukraine funding . I dont entirely agree with him, no. Thats the great thing about jim jordan and Steve Scalise. These are discussions we will have. What i do agree is that United States taxpayers have delivered over 110 billion to the ukraine effort which i support. However, our eu partners and the uk on similar gdps, even up ratios are at about 60 of where we are. They need to fund at levels equivalent to us so the american taxpayer isnt the ones on the hook here, and we need a much more level of accountability, transparency and understanding where every dime of the taxpayers money is going, and we also need a plan. Whether we have that in a classified setting or what, we need to have a better understanding of where were going with ukraine. The last thing we should be doing is giving putin any feeling that u. S. Is in any way departing or abandoning or weakening our support for the sovereignty of ukraine. Mccarthy made so much concessions to the farthest of the right flank to gain his speakership. Will the next speaker have to go even further . What do you think about the oneperson threshold for the motion to vacate that mccarthy agreed to, do you think that should be on the table for the next one . As i stated earlier, thats actually been on the books for years. Nancy pelosi removed that one person could stand and do a vacate the chair. Again, it should be discussed in conference. There should be a good reason for it. In this case with Kevin Mccarthy there was president a good reason. I think they had this vendetta from the beginning, looking for the opportunity. Kevin mccarthy did a sixweek cr, so they decided to gang up eight of them. Not much of a gang and remove him. It shouldnt be weaponized. It should be taken very seriously. If we can remove it, fine, maybe have the majority to allow a vacate the chair, but it shouldnt be weaponized. Its existed before. If its used properly its a tool we shouldnt have to worry about. Congressman meuser, thank you for coming on. We appreciate it. My pleasure. Right now Dominican Republic is donald trump wrapped up the Court Appearances the same way he started, ranting from the judge and the state Attorney General a few yards from where he faced him. Leticia james saying she would not be bullied. Brynn, walk us through the latest comments from letitia james. Reporter unlike the former president , we havent heard from the new York Attorney general since the first day of this trial before court even started. This is really the first time. She took her time to basically address all the times that weve heard from the former president. Lets listen more to what she had to say. Trumps comments were offensive, were baseless, they were void of any facts and or any evidence. What they were were comments that unfortunately loemented violence, comments described as race baiting, comments that appeals to the bottom of our humanity. This case was brought simply because a case where individuals have engaged in a pattern and practice of fraud. I will not sit idly buy and allow anyone to subvert the law. La lastly, i will not be bullied. Reporter so those comments coming after the former president took to the mic for the last time before he headed to maralago, essentially saying the same things he has been saying, taking verbal lashes at james herself and even at the judge. This is even in despite of the gag order by the judge to not talk about anyone on his court staff after that picture was posted by the former president on truth social. As far as whats going on inside the courtroom, i can tell you before we took a break for lunch, there was a lot of visible frustration with the cross examination of trumps former account, frustration on the part of the judge, frustration on the part of the former president. A lot of fiery exchanges going on. Right now theyve switched testimony. Its cameron harris, an audit partner. Theyre having discussions about financials related to eric trump who is still inside the courtroom. Well continue to watch that for you. As of now, the former president no longer inside the courtroom of day three of this civil trial. Alina, as brynn pointed out, trump is on his way back to maralago now. Before leaving court he told a miss truth, one of several we should point out, but he claimed he was stuck at this trial. Hes actually there on a purely voluntary basis. So the question is why did he wind up going . Was this purely for publicity . Reporter there are a couple of reasons, boris. One of them is definitely for publicity. He knew this was a great political opportunity for his campaign. Ive spoken with his advisers over the past several days and weeks. Theyve actually lamented his rallies arent getting as much coverage as they wished, definitely not compared to 2016 when he was running. They welcomed the media attention. We saw them get to Court Earlier this week and throughout the past three days that hes been there, they knew where the Camera Ang Lgs were, where the media would be and they seized the opportunity. Another big reason is this is a trial that personally means a lot to donald trump. Its going after his business, his empire. Something he ran on in 2016, in 2020 and again on the Campaign Trail in 204. He wanted to be here for this. He wants to attend and defend himself. Thats part of the reason why youre hearing him say he wants to testify as a witness. Some skepticism of whether that will actually happen. Thats behind some of the motivation of him showing up in person over the last three days. Lets zero in on the gag order after trump went after a court clerk on social media. Is there anyone on his team concerned that this could get him in further trouble . I think there are definitely some concerns and mixed feelings within Donald Trumps camp. Look, they continually say, its his first amend. Right to talk about the case. I think it will be very interesting to see how he moves forward because the gag order was simply about the judges staff. He may avoid some of that. I think its interesting to note his rhetoric. Weve had a preview over the last few days of what were likely to see next year when donald trump is seesawing between the courtroom and the xain. Even though his rhetoric, he doesnt face a lot of consequences for that on the trail, he is facing consequences in the legal sense. We know theres a proposed gag order in the special counsels case relating to his efforts to overturn the 2020 election. This is going to continue to be a key theme throughout many of his indictments and his legal battles. Boris . Alayna treene, brynn gingras, thank you. Still to come, the chaos in washington is having real implications on ukraines fight against russia. Why a former Defense Secretary is saying this is good news for Vladimir Putin. Plus, amid a surge of migrants, Democratic Leaders in illinois are speaking out saying cities like chicago are at their Breaking Point and need help from the white house. Later, the man arrested for the murder of tupac shakur was in court this morning. A critical hearing in that case is now delayed. Well tell you why in just a few minutes. Tensions are high between officials in the city of chicago and the white house as the Migrant Surge continues to have an impact far from the southern border. The governor and mayor of chicago, both democrats, confronted Top Administration officials this week over their handling of the surge in migrants, demanding action. Governor j. B. Pritzker is asking President Biden to name a czar to manage the ongoing crisis. He worries chicago is reaching a Breaking Point with winter approaching quickly. There are over 17,000 migrants in chicago alone and leaders fear that number could double. It comes as Texas Governor greg abbott is ramping up the number of buses carrying migrants to that city. There are Something Like 2 powe 300 migrants living on the floors of your police stations. Youre a former policeman yourself. Im wandering what your biggest concern about that is. Well, especially as we enter into our winter months, those that are sleeping outside and at our police stations, im very concerned about their safety. The 2,300 that you mentioned, of that, the majority of them are still living outside. Were approaching our winter months where in chicago it gets quite cold. We have to be concerned about their safety as well as the wellbeing of the migrants which also includes Young Children and families. Alderman, theres been some tension, not only between your governor and chicagos mayor and the white house, but also between local officials as well over what to do. Im wondering what you would ask the white house or Biden Administration to do to intervene immediately to help alleviate the issue. I think immediately the president has done it, and thats authorizing temporary work permits, but i think there needs to be an even greater step and more security at our borders right now. Were getting an inflection of people from particularly texas. It is my belief that our president needs to step up and tighten Border Security until we can get this growing problem under hand. On that question, what would you say to Texas Governor greg abbott . He argues as bad as things are in chicago right now, theyre much worse and the southern border. Well, i dont think nothing that we say or nothing weve been able to say over the last several months and specifically over the last year greg abbott has listened to. So i think our biggest concern knowing that Governor Abbott will not listen to the residents of the city of chicago, but our elected officials as well and the governor of his state. We have to do what we can to provide for the wellbeing of the residents the mike grants that are coming here. Rather than