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CNNW Anderson July 3, 2024

Tonight on three 60, the dysfunction is coming inside the house as republicans fight republicans over who will be the next speaker. New yorks the tourney general Laetitia James, thats the donald trump show is over as this while trial continues in the former president heads back to florida. Plus, the First Quarter france for the first person yet to be charge into boxes killing, 27 years after the crime. We will talk to the t eight on the case. Good evening, thank you for joining, us we begin tonight with the Dysfunction Infighting and backbiting among House Republicans after eight of them meet their Party Leader Kevin Mccarthy the first ever House Speaker to be voted out of a job. That, and why none of it should be surprising to him or anyone. First, quickly, the dysfunction got so bad after the vote, we learned today that republicans cannot even stand to be in the same room together for more than a few minutes. There was a meeting last night as you may, know of republicans, and that room would have devolved into i think physical attacks on one another if people stayed in there for long periods of time. That is a republican congressman resident mitt at left members last night unable to agree on a successor or anything else except putting off a decision until next week. Today other than congressman jim jordan throwing their heads in the ring, and Marjorie Taylor greene saying the former president should get the job, nothing whatsoever happened. Nothing but anger and recur nations against the gop rumbles who voted to ask mccarthy, especially the instigator florida matt gaetz. I think yesterday we saw matt gaetz, one of the greatest acts of heresy ive seen in a while. Matt gaetz undermined the entire conference, he undermined the entire institution. What theyre guys doing is not the best interests of the United States of america. You want to come at me and call me a rhino you can kiss my thump your chest on, twitter yes, come to my office and i really cant believe that people like matt gaetz were so dumb to fall for this. He is certainly going to have to earn some respect within the conference. There needs to be accountability for the eight individuals who selfishly upended our house majority, and put their own interests above the country. Matt gaetz is using the American People as pawns in his narcissistic game of charades, and i think we have had enough. The house is adjourned until friday, they have until tuesday or wednesday to find its weaker. A. To ukraines intimate with all the other important things the congressman needs to do including passing measures to keep the government, going and troops paid when this weekends temporary Spending Measure expires 42 days from now. And, again none of this should surprise the former speaker rebellion within his own Party Costume speakership. Aided by the role that he himself agreed and exchange to the job. The allowing a Single Member of this case Congressman Gaetz to launch the effort to unseat him. Instead of looking inward last night he said this. I think today was a political decision whether democrats. I think of the things they have done in the past heard the institution. They just started removing people from they just started doing other things. And my fear is, the institution because you cant do the job with eight people, you have 94 , 96 of your entire conference, but eight people can partner with the side. How do you govern . And for them to make a motion on me because that Make A Decision for the country, that they agreed with, but they choose to do the other. That becomes a problem. Now keep in mind, that claim, democrats disingenuous that, best the rule allowing a Single Member to challenge a speakership with a house rule. It applies to any member of any party, meaning any democrat could have done what matt gaetz did at anytime during kevin we got these 269 days as speaker. No democrats did. Matt gaetz, a republican use that rule, which again mccarthy agreed to in order to get the job, which in turn made his job impossible, some ten Republican Senate leader has underscored today. To do that dawn, or anyone, you have to get rid of the motion to vacate, because it puts whoever the speaker is in a hammer lock this function. Potential dysfunction. The Concession By Mccarthy was part of a series of steps he took that have fed and nurtured the radical wing of his party in order to more from my friend colleague jake tapper, and fed in assured the eating elaborate that would that coddling of his political assassins began before republicans control the house. Starting when he abandoned his criticism of the former president just two weeks after saying he bore responsibility for january 6th. It continued with the forcing out of law straining, after kinzinger joined the Marjory Taylor green, Speaker Mccarthy telling according to the new york times, quote, i will never leave that woman talking about green. Tellingly, she disappeared him yesterday. But in a larger stance her piece of the party including Government Shutdown only empowered republicans who including the one who pushed the same hardliners to shut down Anti Government and push the speaker he once called into a corner he could not get out of. The former president who should be known in court on trial for fraud. Joining us now, cnn political commentator and are you surprised that most House Republicans are not blaming mccarthy for teeing up all this . Yes, i guess in a way, they have to give their public view, but i think at their heart they know. At their heart they know that he made concessions to the very people, even in the concessions to the very people to run their vote. Not only for eight, months they turned against him. This was the most foreseeable thing. It is disingenuous of mccarthy, or lets think about the motion to vacate, lets think about, this do you really think a single republican if the script was flipped would have voted to not vacate nancy pelosi from the speakership . Of course they all would have voted to vacate. You think Kevin Mccarthy, this was the, point as you mention in the opening, he open an Impeachment Inquiry without he went to maralago and resurrected donald trump. I mean literally, he took the figuratively he took the paddles out of the ambulance, and brought him back to political life. So i think republicans today, republicans in the house are scratching their heads, saying how do we get here, but all they have to do is think back a few months and you can see it. Do you think the next week or whether well have to cut deals with the farright members in the same way . Will they have to agree to the same one person can vacate the chair . I think so. I think the only way that changes is if we go a month without a speaker. We have multiple races, eventually people are desperate to put a speaker in. This is where i think it will get interesting. You have folks that are willing to vacate the chair, you have folks willing to whatever the demand is, and they are all extreme demands. The question is, what does this do to ukraine aid . What i really worry about is those that move to vacate Kevin Mccarthy with have no idea where she came from on this, but they have all been talking about things like regular order. To the viewers, regular order means if you are a member of congress, you should be able to bring up a resolution, or an amendment in that you get voted on the regular way of the order of business. But these are the same people now saying, they do not want to come to the floor and vote on ukraine. That would put overwhelmingly and have to get their message straight. I worry that whoever runs for speakers would have to commit to no ukraine aid and of course, i have to tell, you i think hes going to be in the seat on, this and i can get into, that but i think it is important for five or ten members of the house, near refuse for anybody that wont bring ukraine to the floor for a vote. When they do that, and probably not. Why do you think jim jordan is in the seat. Because it is all about, i think if it was a secret ballot, he went overwhelmingly, for anybody but jim jordan, but what you are going to start seeing is on the emails of the fund raising of other cable news networks, jim is now going to be the new litmus test of are you a true conservative or not . Steve scalise, stormy it will be jim jordan. There will be a slow acquiescent everybody to jim jordan. That is my i certainly hope for the country becomes run. But how is shut it down kind of guy actually governs . Congressman kinzinger, thank, you appreciate, im much more on the bitterness of the cnns lauren fox has that. Good morning. In one of his first moves which was directed by mccarthy, temporary speaker mchenry ordered representatives and former Speaker Nancy Pelosi removed from their officers at the capitol. So mccarthy could move in. Pelosi writing in a statement, quote, office base does not matter to me. It seems to be important to them. A source close to pelosi says, the move was retaliation for democrats citing against mccarthy inside the speakers vote. Rather than being petty and silly, and throwing nancy pelosi out of her office, how does that contribute to civility appear . A House Of Representatives without a speaker, paralyzed. We cant get anything done, those can be brought with us, what we can to be on the house, what we can pass an eating into law. Lets just pray that there is not a National Emergency that we have to respond to, because this places in operable. And if the republican is turning inward to representative matt gaetz who led the charge to unseat the speaker. Yesterday, effectively somebody threw a grenade in the middle of the house floor. There was a meeting last night as you may know, of republicans, and that room would have devolved into a physical attack on whether people stayed in there for long period of time. Some republicans calling for the rebels to be punished. I dont see how they can be part of a conference when they stand on the inside listening to what is going on and it is a waste of time having conversations with these people. Mchenry will remain the speaker until a new election can take place, with a majority and representative jim jordan already vying for the position. I think for a conservative centerright, party i think im the guy and ate rule that allowed mccarthy to be removed in the first place, may not be going anywhere according to another member considering the speakership. Im not afraid. That is something the members wanted, that is fine. Lauren fox, cnn, capitol hill. You heard some of the frustration and outweigh anger towards my gate and republican Congressman Mullin took it to the next level this afternoon going after Congressman Gaetz for the allegations against him over Sex Trafficking which launched a federal investigation. Listen. You have to think about this guy, this is a guy who did not have the media did not give the time of day after he was accused of sleeping with an underage girl. There is a reason why no one in the Conference Game and defended him, because we had all seen the videos he was showing on the house floor that all of us had walked away of the growth he had slept with. He bragged about how he would crush medicine and chase it with an energy drink so he could go all night. This is obviously before he got married. So when the accusation came, out nobody defended, him and no one and the media would give him the time of day. All of a sudden he found fame because it was the speaker of the house back in november, and he is always stay there. He was never going to leave until he got this last moment of fame by going after a motion to vacate. It is important to know that Congressman Gaetz has never been charged with any Sex Trafficking, crime and gave a c statement to cnn in response. I dont Think Markwayne on the house floor this is a lie from somebody who does not know me and who is coping with the death of the political career of his friend kevin. Thats an prayers. Im joined now by republican congressman who voted for mccarthy to retain these bigger ship. Congressman, good to have you on. Are you surprised by the personal nature of the attacks between members of the gop conference in the last 24 hours . Im not surprised. Tensions and members have been running pretty high for the last nine months. Anderson, you know, it with a small group of hardliners that are just making it impossible for us to run the house like it needs to be run. I would note just a tiny bit of amusement that one of the allegations that matt gaetz leveled as Speaker Mccarthy was, he had not passed 12 bills on the house floor yet. Part of the reason for that is that ease hardliners have been polling against bring in these Appropriation Bills to the floor. The spy, that kevin kathy managed to get 70 of Discretionary Spending through the house before the deadline, but for matt gaetz, all attention and chaos is what he sees. So some of her gop colleagues most recently who spoke with moneywatch a short time ago talked about expelling matt gaetz from the gop conference. Would you support that move . I am pretty frustrated still. I am angry. I try not to make decisions when im angry. I would counsel all my colleagues to just take a couple of deep breaths for the next couple of days. Before we make any decisions about accountability, before making decisions about who should be speaker of the house, lets make sure we are clear and focused on what can move the house in the right direction. Because anderson, if we do not the foundational problems of the oust republican conference, the new speaker is just going to be in the same old clown car, but a different driver. That will not get it done. So what are the foundational problems you see, obviously many of the things that mccarthy had to agree to in order to get the speaker job as mixed mcconnell pointed out made a job impossible. I thought it was a bit of an unfair allegation at the top of your show, nancy pelosi also had she agreed to a number of world changes. This is what happens. Nancy pelosi and Kevin Mccarthy will cut the deals the need to get to cut to get to 218, in some respects those rules made the husband or an others they made them harder to govern. Lets not blame other would tell you the motion to vacate is that is, you are saying it is insanity, if any member of congress can do a motion to vacate, doesnt that make Mitch Mcconnells point, doesnt it make it impossible . It does. We should change that rule. It seems like the most veasey thing ever to blame an arcane rule, when the problem is the makeup of the house. Yes, lets change the rule, but i will not change the rule. At some point it is garbage in, garbage out. If you do have numbers that do not want to work. If you have members that grave chaos, if you have members who have never actually figured out how to work with any other human being and to find Common Ground ever, it is going to be a mess. Regardless of the rules. Would you be comfortable voting for either of the two most prominent candidates . I know you said you wanted to take a breather, what do you make of the names that are out there . I think they are capable individuals, but we need to do a better job of putting them in a position to win, and mccarthy is as emotionally intelligent as anybody i have ever worked with. He listened as much as anybody i have ever served with. He really found and delivered some victories that many in the media and the house did not think he could deliver. The next speaker is not going to last any more than nine months if we did not take care of business. Congressman, i appreciate your, time thank you. Thank you. Coming up, next former president s watch on what to make of his game today that he will testify in his own defense, and later will happen today in court us made his first appearance as a defendant of in the case. We mentioned at the, top the former president was in court again for the Third Straight day in his new york Civil Fraud Trial when it was over he left for florida meaningful not least, as the new York Attorney general Letitia James put it, the trump show is over. The trial though goes on, and he did say he would testify if called upon. Cnn s has been following all, week was in court again today. So did the former president abide by the judges gag order . He did. The gag order only covers comments about the judges staff, but trump wasted no time and nor opportunity to lash out against the judge and new York Attorney general Letitia James, and for the first time this week she responded. Take a listen. The judge already knows what hes going to, do he is a she is a democrat judge out of the and is a sham. Im stuck here because i have a corrupt Attorney General that with the doj In Washington to keep you paid, back and you get sued by political ally. Mr. Trumps comments were offensive, baseless, they were void of any facts and any evidence. What they were, they were comments that unfortunately will lead to violence, comments that and comments on humanity. The judge himself even

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