People are pisse deshgs and that the take and the quote that we have now that the house moderate republicans and how they are feeling about this new idea of a televised debate between candidates for House Speaker now. What the frenzy of phone calls and Behind The Scenes appeals and now this debate means for the House Majority currently still in a mess. For Mall Deprogramming Of Maga Cult Members is what Hillary Clinton says needs to help with the House Speaker. We have an exclusive interview. And now, nearly doubled jobs what economists were expecting. The Acting Labor Secretary is our guest, and President Biden is expected to speak out as well. With john berman, im kate bolduan, and this is cnn news central. This morning, that new word of a televised debate between the leading candidates to be House Speaker and a new reporting on the difference that a donald trump endorsement can make, and the issue of addition or subtraction . Overnight, trump endorsed House Judiciary Chair jim jordan over the House Majority leader Steve Scalise. He may want to be the kingmaker, but might it have the opposite effect . They continue to work the phones to drum up the support, and see where things stand. Lauren fox on capitol hill, and what are you hearing . This morning, a lot of questions of what trumps endorsement for jim jordan means for him in the race. In some ways, jim jordan was already a favorite of the conservatives and member of the House Freedom caucus, and many who are watching that trump the endorsement closely, but again, the larger question looming is how the two candidates jim jordan and Steve Scalise are going to win over the moderate colleagues, republicans who won in districts that biden carried in the last president ial election, and this is where the focus s. It is important the note that many of them this morning according to our colleague Melanie Zanona are deeply frustrate and upset about the fact that many of the candidates are going to be talking to bret baier on fox news than having a full conference. We expect that things are going to be moving quickly and questions of whether they will get to the floor for House Speaker vote, and monday, we expect a republican Conference Meeting on tuesday and tuesday, a candidate forum, and then wednesday, a conference of who they want for speaker and then when they go to floor for that is remaining. Neither have locked down the 218 votes. Now does the Endorsement Help jim jordan or make it tougher for him with the moderates . Those are the key questions this morning. And you said that moderates are pissed about this televised debate. What is it that they want to see or the sensitivity with how this plays outt . Yeah, well, john, think about how the House Republicans have been dealing with the last week. They starteded with speaker Kevin Mccarthy monday and they have no longer have a speaker who can govern on the floor, and a lot of frustration that the House Republicans need to have a private family conversation, before going out to air any dirty laundry in public, and that is part of the frustration and concern this morning. This is about governing so many republicans are arguing, and they need to come together tooz a consensus as a conference as soon as possible to continue on with the spending bills, because a government deadline is hitting november 17th, and the longer the internal debate wears on, the longer the fight with jim jordan and Steve Scalise, the longer it is until that government gets funded. All right. Lauren fox, keep us posted. Kate, keep it clean. Stop it. And now, congressman tim burchett is going to join us, and he is one of the congressmen who voted to oust speaker Kevin Mccarthy. Have you reached a decision of who you want to endorse or vote for speaker . I am not bill on the endorsements, and you dont pick up friends with endorsements but just enemies, and so all of my conversations are private. I think about the same thing with debates, i bring my side and you bring your side, and we both Leave Thinking that we won. I dont have any animosity of those, but vi talked to jim and steve at length, anded they are both very good friends, and i will listen to what they say. It sounds real trendy and hip, but i am concerned about the vision of the party and the Uncan Trishgs and country. We owe 3 trillion in debt, and in three months we rack up another trillion of debt, and on 33 trillion in debt, about 1 trillion is interest, and the money we are giving to the chinese or whoever we are borrowing the money from, and that is my concern right now. Congressman, does Donald Trumps endorsement of jim jordan matter to you . No, maam, it doesnt. As i stated, President Trump has been kind to me, and a friend, and he even says my name right, and he says burchett, burchett, and it is funny because he is one of the few. We are working on it. I know it, but you did great. And my daughter is a barrel racer, and every arena, if they get isabelle right, i am happy, because i know where she is supposed to be, but all kidding aside, but i dont, and it will influence a lot of people, because i think that what President Trump was doing that they were considering him as speaker, and that now is going to put those peoples focus on where it is going to be of who is the next speaker of the house. Well, it does not influence you, congressman, and so do you think that because of the influence that donald trump has over a big portion of the conference, do you think that in some way, it could make it impossible for Steve Scalise get to 218 since trump is behind jordan . No, maam, i dont. Because as you all stated we have moderate and frankly liberal members of the partysh and they are all dear friends of mine, because i think that it puts them in a different light. The net gain, it will be a net gain, but i think that it might pull a couple off even. But i honestly think that it helps jim a lot in the caucus n the conference. You talked about your Chief Concern Hearing from the next speaker is hearing about fiscal responsibility, but the next question has to be about the concept of compromise to reach consensus with the democrats in a divided congress. So if the next speaker says to you, that our government is designed to find compromise and you cant get everything that you want, and you have the house, and you have the senate, can you accept that . Yes, maam, i can, but you dont go to the senate and say, when you compromise and say s we will cut 1 of the growth and then you start it above base. I always give the example, i raised the speed limit in tennessee, and steve cohen was my senate sponsor and i was the house sponsor and so si asked for 85 Miles Per Hour knowing they would take 70, and of course, i brought Peyton Manning to nashville the week before and i could have passed communism and gotten 100 Miles Per Hour that week, but the reality is that you have to ask for more. And also, maam, both of the men, jim jordan and jim scalise understand the art of compromise, if twir speaker, i would talk to the president everyday, and talk to Chuck Schumer everyday. The reason i quoted that is because that is exactly what Kevin Mccarthy said in the Press Conference after you voted him out. If that is not good enough for him, and why is that good enough for the next speaker. Well, saying and doing are two different things. The democrats overwhelmingly, and more or less they approved to him, because they got everything that they asked for in reality. We really got nothing. We keep going down that path and we lose. So when you have a strong leader as those two gentlemen that you have mentioned are. And it could be a dark horse like kevin hearn who is a guy that people could fall in love with, and grew up in a Housing Project and ended up owning a bunch of mcdonald restaurants. And one thing in the Republican Party is that we have deep bench which is going to serve well for the country, but america also needs to understand that when the media says is bed lamb and kay, you and we f bed bedlam and kay, you and we have followed the rules that Kevin Mccarthy laid out. Yes, and he found himself in the victim of his own rules. So with the motion to vacate to fire Kevin Mccarthy, and now there is a push from more moderate republicans to have a change in the rules. I saw some reporting that there is a letter that was sent out by a group of 45 House Republicans to all of you essentially saying that there has to be changes to this rule. Would you sign on to changes in that rule . The motion to vacate . I would look at the reasons. That has been on the books since the 1920s, and nancy pelosi took it out knowing that she would have a thin margin and she did not want to face that option. And even Mitch Mcconnell said that it has to change. Well, Mitch Mcconnell doesnt tell me what to do, and he is up in kentucky and im in the Second District of tennessee, and i listen to what my folks say. I appreciate them, because they have been friends to me and nice to me, but ultimately i have to make that decision, and i dont have a problem with it. Frankly, i think that one person, you know, it is a one that everybody has a voice, and this is what is behind the movement, and it may go by the wayside. Honestly, a lot of the members do, but i want listen to all of the argument, because it was put in place for good reason. And real quick, you told cspan yesterday, some of the well healed supporters have told you that they will not support you over the vote, over your decision to oust Kevin Mccarthy, and we have heard from multiple House Republicans that this chaos could cause the republicans to lose the House Majority in 2024. Is this worth it if it costs you all the majority . Maam, we werent doing anything. We need success and we shouldnt have waited until September 30th or the week before september to start working on the budget. We were home the whole month of august and didnt do anything with the term limits and we need to address things like fentanyl and the border and the Out Of Control spending, and yet, that is what we were going to do at the end of september. So i would submit to you that i think that the new leadership will do that, and address those things. I dont think it going to cause one blip on election day. And everybody talks about covid and january 6th, but i am like america, i want my pizzas in 30 minutes or less, and that is my attention span. And i think most of america is worried bt the decreasing value of the dollar. And they also do like to see that there is a functional legislative branch and right now, there is no functioning, and no speaker and you are guys are not coming back until tuesday. And so i wanted to get your temperature on this, if it does cost your majority, and what has played will out in the last week, if your view, was it worth i it . That is not my intention to cause the majority and you are asking would be and could be and jesus might come, too, and i wouldnt have to worry about it, but i deal with what is in front of me, and the Republican Party is going to be united and one floor on the floor, and that is going to be it, and this is going to be a distnat memory quick. From Barrel Racing to the return of jesus christ. This has been an interesting interview. Thank you for your time, congressman burchett. I will say that my wife. Go ahead. Ly say that i have to give full credit to my wife who said that yall voted for a rule and you voted kevin out on a rule that kevin voted for and the congress had actually passed, and so the rules are in place, and we are moving ahead. Best to your wife as well. Thank you so much, congressman. Thank you, maam. John. I thought that you were going to go on the whole name pronunciation thing and compare how yours is spelled. His is spelled right right and pronounced right, and mine is spelled right and pronounced wrong or vice versa. Hillary clinton is weighing in on to mess in the house with christiane amanpour. Have a listen. The base of the Republican Party for whatever combination of reasons, and it is a emotional and psychological, sees in him someone who speaks for them. And they are determined that they will continue to vote for him, attend his rallies, wear his merchandise, because for whatever reason he and his, you know, very negative, nasty form of politics resonates with them. Maybe they dont like migrant, and maybe they dont like gay people or the black people or the woman who didnt get the promotion at work they didnt get and whatever reason, make America Great again was a bid for nostalgia to return to a place for people who can be in charge of their lives and feel empowered and say what they wanted and insult whoever came in their way, and that was really attractive to a significant portion of the republican base. So it is like a cult. Somebody has to break, you know, break that momentum, and this is why i believe that joe biden will defeat him, and hopefully then it will be the end, and the fever will break, and then republicans can try to get back to, you know, fighting about issues among themselves and electing people who are at least responsible and accountable. And you can watch chri christianes full interview with Hillary Clinton monday on amanpour. And this, the week that was, capitol hill, flips and backflips and things that simone biles cant pull off. We will discuss what former President Trump had disclosed Sensitive Information about Nuclear Submarines to a former Cardboard Tycoon at maralago, and why this is of interest to the special counsel. And plus, the huge jobs report that we told you about in the beginning of the hour, and President Biden is set to speak, and what does it mean for him and his administration and the reelection campaign. His Acting Labor Secretary julie su will join the show. Tyndall. The Morning Failout after the chaotic week on capitol hill. A Government Shutdown barely avoided, and ouster of the House Speaker, and by tuesday night, matt gaetz said that he would be out, and he was out by tuesday night. Sometimes i cant handle you. And now, the men coming forward to take his spot is jim jordan and Steve Scalise, and donald trump throwing his support now behind jim jordan. Was it a mess or chaotic . It has all led to paralysis which is not great. Joining us now is the National Reporter from the New York Times syd herndon, and also, cnn political analyst alice stewart. So we wanted to step back for the week that was and first, who has more juice this weekend, moderate republicans, the House Freedom caucus or someone else . I would say in the short term, it is moderate republicans, because the person who is running to be the next speaker needs that group to cross over to 218, but the juice remains with donald trump, and through that the freedom caucus, but in the short time, i would go with the moderate republicans, because they are holding the keys to whoever is going to be able to get to that number and become the next speaker. The juicemaker might ultimately be the Real Juicemaker is donald trump. And so the one thing that might trip up the speaker next week is blank . Motion to vacate. Look, whoever is going to be the next speaker needs to make sure that the motion to vacate proposal is off of the table. We cannot function and clearly Kevin Mccarthy could not govern with matt gaetz running around the capitol run around with the motion to vacate every time he did not get his way. The republicans need to get their act together, and it is tumultuous and chaotic and a mess, and we have to get past the politics of grievance, and the politics of governing, because that is what they were expected the do, and the sooner they do that and get a speaker in place who focus on that, the better. And amongst the many things that i had with tim burchett in the last block is that he seemed to be in a, yeah, the motion to vacate could change, and he kind of accepted that is the way it is going, but though he did