Do the dishes as much as i can. And im sure she was happy to be shoveling the dirt on you. She would have been, yes. Thank you so much, both of you. I really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. And by the way, quick aside, cover crops, you can plant them to improve your soil. Radishes, peas, and lentals all count. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for joining us. Ac 360 starts now. Captions by vitac www. Vitac. Com tonight on 360, new and dangerous language from the once and possible future president of the United States. Also tonight, new details on the fatal car crash involving the thengirlfriend, nowwife of bob menendez. And a live report from ellie reed about book bans. We begin tonight keeping him honest, by taking a step back, a step back from what seems like a flood of words lately that the former president has said, followed by a flood of stories about those words and subsequent outrage that one side or another has about those stories. Before the whole cycle repeats itself and the latest outrage is forgotten because its old news by then. His former strategist steve bannon had a phrase for this. He called it flooding the zone with exdecrement, though he used a different for for excrement. It never gave anyone time to take stock of what just happened. Tonight we want to stop for just a moment and give something the former president said the consideration it deserves, to cut it out, if you will, of the flow or flood of daily utter ranss. Im talking about what the former president said, the words he used, during a recent interview with a right wing outlet talking about migrants coming into america. Nobody has any idea where these people are coming from. We know they come from prisons. We know they come from mental institutions, insane asylums. We know theyre terrorists. Nobody has ever seen anything like were witnessing right now. It is a very sad thing for our country. Its poisoning the blood of our country. Its so bad. And people are coming in with disease. People are coming in with every possible thing that you can have. Diseased migrants, quote, poisoning the blood of our country. Now, even stripped of any historical context, those words have power of their own, to invoke fear of infection, corruption, invasion from unseen outside forces. And thats no accident. Those same words have been used before. [ Crowd Chanting ] the white nationalists and neo neonazi marchers chanting jews will not replace us. Americans on the streets in america chanting nazi slogans. They were tapping into the deep and dark vein in whats known today as replacement theory. Most people watching that would be outraged. The former president said this. Excuse me, excuse me. You had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. Very fine people among americans that night chanting nazi slogans. The man who murdered worshippers at tree of life synagogue in pittsburgh spent months posting one online rant after another, calling immigrants invaders. The mass shooter in el pasos final post said he was doing it because of the, quote, Hispanic Invasion of texas. But notions of Outside Invaders replacing White Americans are corrupting the blood of the nation, theyre not new. And theyre hardly just coming from deranged killers. The segregationist senator of mississippi, Theodore Bilbao wrote about, a White America or a mongrel america, you must take your choice. Perhaps the strongest parallel to the former president s line, poisoning the blood of the country, comes from the darkest place. In a champer of mein kampf, adolf hitler writes, the original created race died out as a result of contamination of the blood. The poison which has invaded the national body, he links to, quote, influx of foreign blood. Back to today, A Trump Spokesman called the former president s comment a normal phrase that is used in everyday life. Its certainly used throughout history. And to the extent it actually is used in everyday life, we think its worth stopping and taking note of it. Joining us now is conservative attorney, Washington Post contr contributing columnist, george conway. The phrase we used, it has such clear historical antisee dents, even somebody as poorly read is the former president certainly knows where that phrase come from, that idea comes from. He knows the words hes using. Right. Hes not a very intelligent man. But he does have a reptilian form of intellect that really lends itself to this kind of rhetoric. And he is profoundly, profoundly psychopathic in the way that he expresses himself. But if you go back to 2017, like you just did, and 2016 and 2015, the people who first figured out donald trump were the historians, the historians of authoritarianism, the historians of international relations, and the psychologists. And the reason that they all figured it out is because they came at donald trump from two different angles. One, from the mindset of what the interworkings of his mind. The other from what he says and how he commands the affections or desires of people. And thats the authoritarian part. And what we see here is a man with lacking completely lacking in morality, lacking in conscience, lacking in remorse, lacking in empathy, completely a man without a soul. And the type of thing that he is what he preaches is hatred. And he preaches hatred because this is the way he can save himself and gain power. And right now, hes getting worse. They always get worse, the sociopaths, the psychopaths like a hitler or a putin. They get worse over time as they become more and more desperate. And thats whats happening with donald trump. Were seeing this rhetoric, the rhetoric about Blood Poisoning here, the rhetoric about executing the chairman of the joint chiefs, all sort of rhetoric that basically is designed to foment hatred and violence. That is what that is in his nature, and that is how he plans to wield power and to gain it back. Its also i mean, you know, we talked about in the newsroom today whether to even mention these comments and bring them up because, you know, this is so normalized now. People dont bat an eye about this stuff anymore. You dont hear members of congress, certainly no republicans, you know, saying anything public about it. Evenjohn kelly confirming to jake tapper this week, all the litany of just horrible things the former president has said about wounded veterans or veterans who died, you know, defending democracy in world war i and not wanting to go to their cemetery, not wanting to have, you know, a disfigured veteran near him in a public event calling, you know, the mccain and former george h. W. Bush losers because they were shot down. I mean, its again, theres no outrage. People are it just and its easy to just move on to the next thing. And its i dont know. From a coverage standpoint, its this is something i wrestle with. No, it is something that is difficult for the press to wrestle with, difficult for all of us to wrestle with because were not used to confronting evil in the flesh the way that we have to do that now. I mean, he trump trump basically he represents everything you dont want humanity to be. He brings out the worst in people. And that is basically his nature. And that is what were seeing here today, as he becomes more and more, you know, desperate because his businesses are threatened by litigation in new york and hes facing 91 counts in four different jurisdictions. I mean, he is going to foment more hatred and more violence. And we you know, what psychologists and sociologies call this, i think, is malignant normality. Weve gotten so used to his rhetoric, so used to his behavior, that we dont we hesitate to call it out, and we dont necessarily see the danger that has crept up on us. But it is profoundly dangerous. If you look back on history and you ask it was that 6 million jews were killed in europe in the early 1940s and you ask how genocides occur, it starts with a man using this kind of rhetoric to move and sway and to encourage hatred among people. I was looking reading an article in the atlantic today. They cite an article in 1873, august 27th, San Francisco chronicle, there was an ad advertising a book. The headline was, the chinese invasion, they are coming. In 1873, it was these chinese diseased invaders are coming, and theyre going to, you know, take over this country. I want to read the full response from the Trump Campaign spokesperson. He said, thats a normal phrase that is used in everyday life in books, television, movies, and news articles. For anyone to think that is racist or xenophobic is living an alternate reality consumed with nonsensical outrage, end quote. I dont there is no other explanation for it. If hes talking about people coming in from other countries and hes talking about Blood Poisoning, hes talking about race, hes talking about he is trying to foment hatred. And that that is something that is profoundly dangerous in a pluralistic society, in any society. And thats something we really need to start calling this out more because were going to see more. One of the advantages, perversely, that trump has had over the last three years is that, you know, he was taken off social media. He was taken off twitter. And hes been giving these crazy rants, and theyre getting much worse, on his failing social media site. And then on these right wing news outlets not news. But right wing outlets that nobody that only a few people watch. But it only takes a few people to cause horrific tragedies like the one at the synagogue in pittsburgh and so many others. George conway, thank you for being with us tonight. Thank you. Mr. Trump weighed in on the race for the speaker of the house last night, throwing his support behind congressman jim jordan. Mr. Jordan has been a longtime supporter of the former president , was served a subpoena by the January 6th Committee to answer questions, he defied that subpoena. The other, steve scalise, has been working the phones to his republican colleagues trying to convince them that hes the man for the job. Just to add to the overall chaos, both men agreed to a debate on monday night and cancelled it after blow back from members. Its a fitting end to a chaotic end. Melanie zanona is here to sort through it. Is it clear how much of an impact the former president s endorsement would mean on the speakers race . Zblnder son, i think it cuts both ways. Of course a trump endorsement is going to help jim jordan on the right. And there has been a number of conservatives who have come out and said they are backing jim jordan because of Donald Trumps endorsement of them. I talked to troy nells, a congressman from texas. And he said hes backing jim jordan because he doesnt want to go against Donald Trumps wishes. This is going to do nothing to win over the moderates in the party, who are going to be a key constituency in the race. Some are still deeply skeptical of jim jordan. This trump endorsement is probably only going to remind them how closely jim jordan is to the maga wing of the party. Jim jordan is arguing his conservative credentials can be an asset because he can help choral the elements of the party that forced Kevin Mccarthy out earlier this week. As far as agreeing to a debate of jordan and scalise, but why was it cancelled . A lot of whiplash in the gop today. This all started when fox news reached out to the candidates about doing this televised, sort of, interview from the capitol on monday. Both scalise and jordan agreed. But almost instantly after the event was announced this morning, they started receiving blowback from within the party. I was hearing from members, particularly moderates, who are going to be important, saying they thought this was a horrible idea, that it was going to be a circus, and that they shouldnt be broadcasting these sensitive discussions when really they need to get Behind Closed Doors and talk it out amongst themselves. The blowback goes to show how emotions are running high and how they really want to get it right. They do not want to have the same embarrassment or dysfunction on public display we saw this week or even january when it took Kevin Mccarthy to take 15 rounds to get the gavel. Thanks very much. A busy week next week. Coming up next, the former President S Day in court, the decision he was seeking in his new york fraud case, a decision which helps him in the one he wasnt seeking, which lets the trial continue. New revelations and a new inquiry into the fatal car crash. This afternoon, former President Trump failed at getting a new York Appeals Court judge to stop his 250 million civil fraud trial. He did get one win. The judge temporarily halted the process of breaking up his businesses. I want to get perspective from Karen Mag Nif low and kara sciatica nal. Kara, bring us up to date on what happened in the Appeals Court. This was about a 15minute hearing and the judge off the bat said he wasnt going to stop the trial, which is now in its fifth day. He did agree to put a halt to the temporary Business Certificates. This judge in this hearing said, you know, it wasnt even clear if that would apply to a persons private home, so he was putting that on pause to allow trump to appeal the lower court decision. Where the judge said trump and his eldest sons and executives at the company had committed and engaged in persistent fraud in decades of properties, including maralago, in order to get better terms on insurance rates and loans. In your opinion, do both sides get a Little Something . Trump certainly got what he wanted, or half of what he wanted. He didnt get the trial being stopped. He got the cancellations reversed or put on pause. But the Attorney General actually didnt object to that. She had said, we agree that, you know, its going to take time, right, for a receiver to evaluate the properties, dispose of the properties. We dont object to putting that on hold until the trial is over and you can move forward. So, she just said, you know, you shouldnt be able to run the co courtroom. He did get that small victory, i guess, but the Attorney General didnt seem to mind. Do you think the trials initial ruling, ordering the cancellation of the former president s Business Certificates was a little too much too soon. How complicated a process would it actually be . I dont know that it was too much too soon. I think it needs to be more granularly thought out about which businesses, which certificates, which licenses, what would it apply to. I do think it just needs to be sorted out a little bit more. And itll be interesting to see what comes out during this trial and what other evidence and what the Attorney General can prove regarding many of these properties. I think that will inform the record about what will happen to which properties. Jennifer, why would the former president s legal team be asking for a stay after the trial had already been going on . Yeah, thats a good question. They asked for it to be pushed back beforehand too, and they lost that. I think theyre trying for a second bite at the apple. But, you know, once it gets going, its really hard to stop it. We dont have a jury in this case, but there are witnesses who are being made available. You know, everybodys there, kind of, ready to roll. So the notion that an Appellate Court is going to step in five days later and stop it. I think there was no harm asking if it was the theory. What happened at the Fraud Trial Today . There was some testimony about eric trump and his involvement. Weve seen him always in the background when the former president is speaking, as he has been much from the last several days from the courthouse. He attended the first three days but he wasnt there today. It was the controller of the Trump Organization on the stand. Hes the guy that put the values on these properties. He was describing how involving the familys compound in new york, seven springs, that he had spoken to eric trump. The government showed a spreadsheet that showed, call with eric trump on this date. He said he discussed with him how to value that property. And what he said was they had come up with evaluation for this compound based in part on the development of seven mansions for the property. But in fact, those mansions had never been built. He said he had done that at the direction of eric trump, and a similar situation involving one of the golf courses in west chester county. Its the first time weve heard testimony about eric trumps involvement in the preparation of the Financial Statements and values. And tuesday Allen Weisselberg will be on the stand. And ivanka trump is not part of this, right . The Appeals Court had dismissed her from the case saying that the statute of limitations had run about her involvement in this case. She is expected to be called as a witness because she had involvement in the postoffice building, the big hotel they built in d. C. , and her involvement with specific banks. Thats going to get to the piece of the case about how the banks received the allegedly falsified statements. Should the former president s son be worried about what came out in court today . I think so. I think it was, sort of, interesting because this is the third witness to testify. And this is one of the defendants. Dont forget the controller, mr. Mcconney, is a defendant on trial here. And the Attorney General actually called one of the defendants in her case in chief as one of the beginning witnesses. And so i think hes testifying that this is he relied on this information that he got from eric trump and others. Well see how the rest of the testimony goes. But i think that theres things that came out today that would be concerning to eric trump. If i were his lawyer, i would be concerned about some of th