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People during its deadly heinous invasion On October 7th, 222, it is believed, and negotiating the release of these remaining hostages is one of the big reasons the u. S. Wants israel to delay its Ground Incursion into gaza. The Israeli Defense minister saying an operation by air, ground, and sea will be coming, quote, soon. The idf today said Israeli Soldiers are taking part in training exercises to improve their capabilities for future ground operations. The other reason the u. S. Wants israel to delay any Ground Offensive is to make sure that more humanitarian aid can get into gaza to help the innocents the innocent palestinians. As of now 54 aid trucks 15 entered gaza but Relief Groups warn much, much more help is necessary. To put this into context, the area normally gets about 455 aid trucks every day. Since october 7th gazas more than 7,000 truckloads short of normal standards. But a senior israeli official told cnn there will be no ceasefire. The idf says it hit more than 320 targets overnight. Those strikes killed at least 436 people including 182 children. That is according to the Palestinian Health ministry, which we should note is controlled by hamas, so take that claim for what its worth. Lets get right to cnns Nic Robertson is sderot outside of gaza and cnns Alex Marquardt in washington, d. C. Nick, were now seeing this new video of these latest two released hostages. Walk us through the video. What exactly are we seeing . Yeah, what were seeing is them being released at the Rafah Closing at the south of the gaza strip into egypt remembering that the weekend or late friday night we saw The Other Two american hostages released at the Karim Shalom Border out of israel so they have been released into egypt and have seen them at the border getting medical treatment, rudimentary medical treatment and ambulances there before being transferred on expected for their journey back into israel shortly. Alex, were hearing one of the daughters of one of the hostages made a statement . Yes, jake, the daughter of Yocheved Lifshitz has made a statement confirming some of the details we learned from sources but also, of course, expressing joy at the release of her mother who goes by yoche as well as nurit cooper who is 79 years old, Yocheved Lifshitz, 85 years old. The statement says while i cannot put into words the relief that she is now safe, i will remain focused on securing the release of my father and all those, some 200 innocents who remain hostage in gaza so her father along with her mother were both hostages. Her mother has now been released as nic noted and still waiting to hear when the two women will be handed over to israeli authorities. We can imagine they will then be taken into military custody, perhaps, for more medical checkups. This is the same format essentially, the Broad Strokes at least we saw with judith and Natalie Raanan on friday when they were released. This begs all kinds of questions about what happens next. There are certainly going to be questions for the Prime Ministers Office because he had dismissed as false Propaganda A Hamas statement over the weekend that they were ready to release two more of their hostages and, of course, this is going to put a lot more pressure on israel to delay that Ground Incursion so that there can be more time for more of these hostages to come out and more aid to go into gaza, jake. Nic, how long are the idfs preparations for a Ground Incursion going . Reporter according to the army Chief Of General Staff just a few hours ago, he said were ready. Everything is ready for Ground Incursion in the south meaning around gaza and from what weve seen, the troops are there. The heavy battle armor is there. The tanks that you would expect to be at the forefront of an incursion there, the heavy armored fighting vehicles that youd expect for the infantry to be following the tanks in are there and also the heavy mechanical diggers that would go ahead of the tanks to help clear the route, clear the route through the wall, through the fence and through the areas where its possible hamas, Palestinian Islamic jihad could have been laying booby traps, ieds, planning ambush, all sorts of things that will be the immediate danger for the troops as they go into the gaza strip, but from everything weve seen, the preparations have been laid, the troops are there, soldiers weve talked to said weve been stood up, stood down, commanders weve talked to have said were using this time for training. Its helped us in the past in previous battles, so the army seems very ready and at this moment absolutely intent. Nic, i wanted to ask you, weve been talking on the show about urban warfare, urban combat because, you know, obviously gaza is very densely populated and specifically general kimmet compared gaza to the bloody Battle Of Fallujah in 2004 and talked about it with petraeus and kimmet. You covered it. Talk about that and how tough that was and how tougher this could be. Reporter yeah, i think this fight going into gaza will be orders of magnitude tougher for the idf. Theyve been in before. They know the terrain but this is also hamas own turf, so they will have laid plenty of booby traps. There are differences between fallujah, significant differences between fallujah and gaza. Ive been in gaza as well. The roads there are so narrow, its very densely populated. There are a lot of big, tall buildings. Fallujah as i remember with the marines on the streets there we were running down streets but they were wider and more like boulevards. There were bigger villas. There was less, if you will, of urban infrastructure and less places for, you know, terrorists to hide out and ambush the troops as they were going in and that was a very dangerous environment and several times we got pulled into firefights. I remember being in the middle of a firefight when we were supposed to be dropped off from a bradley fighting vehicle. It got diverted, pulled into a firefight so there are all sorts of things that will happen on the ground that are not part of the original plan, but the other thing i think this is significant, other than really this is a wellprepared force, hamas have been in gaza for years, decades, al qaeda and fallujah really, although some of them were indigenous, theyd only really been stood up for a Fighting Force for about a year, and it was easy for them to fall back out of the town environment, the urban fight and into the farmlands and escape the fight. Here the enemy is going to be contained and constrained in an area of essentially where they can pick and direct the fight. Its going to be tough. Cnns Nic Robertson and Alex Marquardt, thank you so much. Joining us now mosab hassan yousef, the son of a Hamas Founding Father and later became one of israels top informants. He went undercover with hamas from 1997 until 2007 on behalf of israels Shin Bet Security Services and now lives in an undisclosed locate. Mosab hassan yousef, thank you so much for joining us. What did you see and experience that made you turn on hamas and help israel . Yeah, since i was a child i always complained to my father about hamas abuse of power and their brutality, you know, theyre very strict and they theyre religious theyre fanatics, and but i did not think at some point, you know, they would cause all this global trouble, you know. They are we saw their brutality. I witnessed their brutality firsthand when i was in prisoned when they tortured so many Palestinian People for suspicion of collaborating with israel and this is basically when i started Questioning Hamas movement. Did the barbarity and cruelty of what hamas did to innocent civilians On October 7th, did that surprise you . Well, you know, they surprised me as they surprised everybody by the scale of the attack, you know, we did not see that coming, but their brutality, their nature, it did not surprise me. You know, back in 1996, they killed so many people, they tortured so many people, our, you know, prison mates basically, people i knew personally. They did all type of crazy things, you know, they put needles under peoples fingernails, you know, and i witnessed that firsthand. So im not surprised to what emption tent hamas can go, but the scale of the attack On October 7th that was surprise i think for everybody including hamas themselves. Were you surprised at the failure of Israeli Intelligence On October 7th . Listen, there was a failure, but this is not the time to blame anybody. There is corruption. There is failure. There is lack of leadership, but this is not the time now to blame anybody. This is the time to get unified, you know, the United States need to give israel the necessary co cover. Israel is fighting on behalf of america, israel is fighting on behalf of the Palestinian People. Israel now is fighting on behalf of the free world. This is not political propaganda. A as an exhamas member, the son of the founder of Hamas Organization and today as an american citizen, i ask the president of the United States to give israel the necessary cover, the necessary supply, whatever it takes, otherwise, the next war is going to be deadlier. I know that you think that hamas is the enemy of not just israel but the Palestinian People. Strategically, do you think it is wise for the Israeli Defense forces to stage a Ground Incursion into gaza to uproot hamas . Do you think thats a smart thing to do . Well, you know, now its a wartime, unfortunately, and this war, israel did not start, hamas started this war, and hamas, in fact, in this Equation Blood for money, they start a war every few years. Whenever they want money, you know, they shed childrens blood. This is their game, and this has to stop. This has to come to an end, and, unfortunately, the price is not going to be cheap. In fact, i feel very sorry for israel that they have to go into gaza where there are booby traps all over the place and i dont know how many Israeli Soldiers have to die in order to destroy hamas. This is the most complicated mission, a modern army has in our modern day. Now, what i suggest, you know, to the israelis, that they wait. They take their time. They collect intelligence, and what i need from the United States to give in support, in fact, i would like to see the navy s. E. A. L. S taking part. I know it sounds horrible but i speak as an american today, as a taxpayer. We need to be unified and give israel the support. We need to free palestinians and free gaza from hamas ruling. You were embedded with hamas before you were well, first you were with hamas and then you were embedded with hamas on behalf of the shin bet. What can you tell us about what motivates these people. What are they like . What are the leaders of hamas like . What do they want . Well, they are a religious movement and this is what everybody is afraid to say. If hamas was a Political Movement then we can satisfy their political ambition but hamas is a religious movement that does not believe in political borders and want to establish an Islamic State on the rubble of the state of israel. They want to annihilate the jewish people and the jewish state. They want to kill everybody who support israel. Then establish this is not the end, because their ambition is global. They want to establish eventually an Islamic State, a global state, so this is whats on their mind and we know that we cannot satisfy their ambition, and the more power, you know, we give them, the more aggressive they are going to be. Hence, we cannot give hamas what they want. We cannot give them what they are asking for. Whatever it takes, in war people die and we need to prepare public, you know, i say that this is an ugly war, israel did not start it but israel will end it. So, the United States insists that the aid being provided for civilians in gaza will not go to hamas. Do you believe that the aid will not go to hamas . Do you believe that the aid will only go to the innocent palestinians . You know, the United States and europe have been very generous with the Palestinian People but their leadership steal the money all the time. They steal the aid. So much aid came into gaza, hamas used all that aid to build tunnels under the ground and now look at the chaos they are creating. The aid is great but not right now. I suggest that we open the border for the palestinian innocent people including women, children and elders to leave the gaza strip or to go into a safe zone. In the meantime, we have to enforce unbreachable siege on hamas. Otherwise, we are not able to deplete them. They are under the ground. They have hostages. We have to cut power. We cannot give them food. We cannot give them water and we have to deplete them for long weeks before we can even go in, you know, otherwise we cannot win this war against this brutal enemy, enemy of humanity. Mosab yousef, really appreciate your insights. Youre welcome. Thank i for having me. Israel believes that more than 20 of the hostages currently being held by hamas are children. One of them, a young boy, who should be right now celebrating his birthday. His family will join me next. On october 7th, 8yearold ohad and his mother were visiting his grandparents when hamas invaded and brutally attacked their kibbutz burning their home to the ground. He and his mother and grandparents were all kidnapped. Today is his birthday. He turns 9 years old. Instead of celebrating with his friends and family, hes a prisoner of a Terrorist Group and two members of his family join me now. Thank you so much for being here and i cant even imagine whats going through your head. How is the family marking his 9th birthday . Actually we had an idea of having a campaign of celebrating his not celebrating, but mention his birthday today so we ask via all media for everyone in israel to hang a balloon thats why you have the balloon for his birthday. The balloon is red since ohad was his uncle liked liverpool, which is red, and his team in israel, their color is also red. Ohad and his mother just came to visit, as you said, to visit in oz so today all of the town will fill with balloons and all over children flew balloons and wrote letters and it was amazing to see all israelis and in london and San Francisco that kids tried to have to kind of celebrate his birthday. Eta, not how a 9yearold should be celebrating his birthday. No, definitely not, i think kids should not be in hamas hands. Kids should not be inside captivity of a Terror Organization. We all saw what hamas is capable of two weeks ago. We saw the atrocities and how they raped, murdered, burned to the ground people alive, kids with their parents and, you know, there is almost 30 kids now in the hands of hamas, and they should all be free. Now they should all be released as soon as possible. If we talk about humanitarian aid we talk about humanity. Kids inside hamas hands is inhumane in any way possible. There are kids there from the age 9 month from the oz there is a baby who is 9 month old and we dont know if he has his formula, his diapers. Theres even theres kids there without their parents. Their parents got murdered. In front of them. In front of them and they were taken into gaza by hamas. We have to remember that hamas is isis and theyre vicious Terror Organization and all kids should be released immediately, immediately. How did you find out that this happened . First of all, first thing on saturday morning there was we knew there are bomb that there are missiles from gaza. We are used to it because my aunt and uncle live there from the early 60s, okay, and the last 20 or 15 years they are bombing all the time. So we got used to it and we have the Whatsapp Group of the family and ask them how are you and i didnt know that karen, my cousin and her son went to nere oz so around the 11, i text her what is going on with your parents since we knew that we didnt have a connection with her parents and unfortunately on 11 00 a. M. She was already in gaza with her parents and her son. It took time to understand whats going on. At the beginning we thought theres no electricity, there is no connection with there is no wifi. Thats why they dont call us, but then from the marvelous nice kibbutz, they left only 150 people out of 400, so only on Saturday Night someone that i asked her that i know i knew her and i knew that her parents live in nir oz and said theyre not on the Survival List and not on the dead list meaning theyr army came and told us that they have their reason to believe that they kidnapped them. So the government has been in touch

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