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Announcer this is cnn Breaking News. Welcome to the lead. Im jake tapper. Im standing on a roof torp looking out over tel aviv. It is just after 11 00 p. M. Here and were covering three major stories right now. The war here. The end to the Chaotic Speakership Saga Back in washington, d. C. And former President Donald Trump in a stunning appearance on the stand today in his new york Civil Fraud Trial. Well start with Breaking News from israel. It is been 18 days since the attacks by hamas caught this country and most of the world by surprise. Just over an hour ago, from this rooftop, we heard explosions presumably from israels iron dome Defense System intercepting several rocks fired on tel aviv from gaza and minutes ago they confirmed that four people were injured with something possibly shrapnel hitting this town. A reminder that hamas continues to try to kill as many israeli civilians as they can with their rockets. Theyre just not able to do so because of the iron dome Defense System. Meanwhile, this evening, israels Prime Minister netanyahu addressed this grieving nation, still mourning after hamass Horrific October 7th Terrorist Attack where 1400 were murdered and speaking in hebrew he alluded to the massive intelligence and ready iness failures of his administration that day. Saying, quote, everyone will have to give answers including myself but that will only happen after the war, unquote. And meanwhile, there are roughly still 600 american citizens stuck in gaza. Amidst a full blown humanitarian crisis there for the 2. 3 million palestinians. The United Nations organization in gaza said it will be forced to stop operations today due to a lack of fuel. Blocked from entering gaza as isreal is certain that hamas will steal any Fuel Shipment news gaza and use that fuel to launch its rockets into israel. And kill innocent israeli citizens. Humanitarian concerns have been echoed by Western Allies who have called for a humanitarian pause in israels strike on gaza. That suggested pause essentially just a rebranded term for a ceasefire which israel is wholly opposed to given the 1400 murders and more than 200 people still being held hostage by hamas in the web of underground tunnels. All of this as another chapter unfolds, of course, as we mentioned earlier, in the complete and utter dysfunction in washington, d. C. Among House Republicans. This afternoon, after four candidates and 22 days of selfinflicted pain and paralysis, upon the congress and the legislative branch of congress, and of course on the u. S. Government and the u. S. People, republicans finally named Conservative Congressman mike johnson of louisiana as speaker of house. And were going to tell you more about speaker elect johnson. Or Speaker Johnson, rather, in a minute. But first lets get to the big Breaking News of the hour. Former President Trump fined 10,000 for violating a gag order again. The judge there trumps new york Civil Fraud Trial warning the former president today to, quote, dont do it again or it will be worse. Cnns Brynn Gingras is live out the courthouse. And the judge issued the fine after trump took the stand. What happened . Reporter yeah, that is right. Actually trump right now is in with the judge. The courtroom is cleared. His lawyers are with him. It is unclear what theyre discussing. Possibly this 10,000 fine. I want you to, jake, to listen to first what trump said and then i could explain how this all unfolded this afternoon in court. This is judge is a very partisan judge with a person who is very partisan sitting along side of him. Perhaps even much more partisan than he is. Reporter you heard him call the judge partisan and the person sitting next to him, to the right is his court clerk and to the left is the witness box and sitting there was Michael Cohen. Well trump was brought back into the courtroom and the judge made him take the stand and answer under oath when he was talking about when he said the person next to him is very partisan and under oath trump said that he was talking about Michael Cohen. Well after he got the stand, the judge said this, as a trier of fact, i find that the witness is not credible and he was referring to my law clerk. Remember, there was a gag order in place, it was that trump could not speak ill about anyone associated with this judges staff. This is the second time the judge has said he has violated this gag order and he put down this 10,000 fine. Well trumps attorneys fought that saying that it is unusual that a law clerk would be sitting right next to the judge. And that they feel like this case is being tried by two judges. But that did not stand. That argument did not stand and the judge kept that 10,000 fine in place. Something else very important to discuss here, jake, the fact that Michael Cohen was crossexamined at the end of the day. Hes no longer on the stand. But there was some flipflopping that happened. That essential angered trump so much he threw up his hands and left the courtroom for the end part of day. We are actually hearing from Michael Cohen right now about that ex change that happened on the stand. Were expecting to hear from the new York Attorney general. There is a lot that has happened in the last hour of this civil trial and well continue to update you, but as of now the civil trial will now continue tomorrow. Jake. Brynn gingras, thank you so much. I want to go to elie honig. What are the risks for donald trump being questioned under oath . Well any time anyone takes stand, particularly if under multiple indictments, they have the risk of refusing to testify and the judge could have used that against him. And the second risk is what happened. Donald trump took the stand and the judge said, i find you noncredible. I dont believe you. An hence the judge ruled against donald trump and levied the increased fine. And when the judge said, quote, dont do it again, or it will be worse, what could worse mean . Does it mean more than 10,000, which lets be honest, that is Pocket Change for donald trump or did he mean jail time, maybe . That is the dilemma that the judge has here. The two tools at his disposal are one, fines, and two, jail time. In fact, the judge went out of his way last time to warn donald trump, if you do it again, i could fine you more and i can at least theoretically imprison you. I dont think that is likely and the financial amounts are not enough to deter donald trump so the judge will have engage in escalating deterrence and i think the judge needs to be responding accordingly. I dont know that a 5,000 fine and a 10,000 fine will do it. Lets turn to the Georgia Election subversion case where 18 codefendants were charged with trying to over turn the states 2020 Election Results and just into cnn, new reporting, georgia prosecutors are considering plea deals with six additional codefendants. Jenna ellis and Sidney Powell and ken chesebro and scott hall have pleaded guilty. Six more plea deals, that would mean almost half of the codefendants will have flipped on trump. Well, yeah, jake. So that would mean 19 defendants and four have pled that brings us down to 15. If another six plead, that gets us down to nine remaining codefendants. This is what you have to do as a prosecutor. Im going to interrupt. Im sorry. I have to apologize. Were going to Michael Cohen who is speaking live outside of the courtroom. Hes got the wrong guy to intimidate. As you seen, i havent stopped since i dont know how many years now and i wont, until i said, accountability is had. Why do you think my name is Jeffrey Levine. And i just want to expand on one thing that michael said and then ill share some additional thoughts. First thing was, not only did the judge deny the motion to dismiss, but he did it twice. And the second time he did it, he said, absolutely denied. So, like many other things with michael, i could say in over 30 years of practicing law, ive never seen a judge issue a ruling that said absolutely denied is enough. Absolutely denied, that is going beyond. And then he followed up, the judge, saying there is enough evidence in this room to find you liable. So it wasnt solely on michael. He is a witness. He is not the witness. Because there is a lot of other evidence. As for my other statements, i just want to say and ive said this before regarding michael, that a little light dispels a lot of darkness. And michael has gone on this path to shine that light. And he has an enormous burden in doing so. Like today and yesterday. His family and he have paid dearly for his choice to shine that light. And i say this not only as michaels lawyer, but weve known each other since middle school. So ive known michael nearly 45 years. And im really pleased to be here under these circumstances. Im pleased to be here to Support Michael and to witness him righting wrongs and speaking truth to power. In particular here in this so the testimony of Jeffrey Levine about his client Michael Cohen, elie honig, let me go back to you. Do you think the plea deals in the georgia case, we already have had four individuals flip on trump, there might be six others. Do you think they could undermine the credibility of the case . Well, jake, i think on one hand it is ai good thing for prosecutors to get plea deals because youre locking in convictions and sort of showing the world that, yes, these people who i charged are guilty. But however we do have to ask what is in the plea deals. Because here is the reality now. Weve seen four people plead guilty so far. All four of them were charged with being part of this massive racketeering enterprise. The goal was to steal the 2020 election. Looking at a fiveyear minimum in prison. What theyve been allowed to plead guilty to, none have had to plead guilty to racketeering, and not a single one them is doing a day behind bars as a result of pleas. Now are they going to cooperate in a way that is effective and useful to the d. A. That remain tos to be seen. And shes still out there spewing Election Fraud lies. So it matters, jake, what is in the details of these plea deals an it is fair to question whether theyre getting too lenient of a deal here. All right, elie honig. Thank you very much. And i want to bring in cnns kristin holmes, the second fine that trump has received from this judge who has warned that it could be worse. What is the reaction in trump worl what happened today. Officially theyre say the same thing, this is a democratic judge trying to take away Donald Trumps First Amendment rights but privately there is questions about how exactly this is going to work and a lot of skepticism as to whether or not donald trump could actually abide by this gag order. You have to remember, that for years Donald Trumps advisers and even more recently Campaign Advisers had been trying to manage his messaging. They know that is not possible. And remember, that is when donald trump believes that the people trying to manage his messaging have his best interest at heart which he does not believe in the case of this judge. Part of Donald Trumps strategy when it comes to his legal peril is to play this out in the court of public opinion. That means taking every opportunity he can to talk to the media. That is why hes always going over to the cameras. That is why hes posting on truth social. He wanted to create his own narrative around this and then again play this out in the court of public opinion, not in the courtroom. This severely limits his capabilities to do that. So whether or not he could actually abide by a gag order, that is a real question. Even among his closest aides and advisers who have tried and tried to keep him on message often to only be left with their mouths dropped open when he said something that they cannot believe came out of his mouth. Thank you so much. To another big story this hour. The newly minted speaker of the house mike johnson, he was a key figure who once led efforts to over turn the free and fair 2020 election. And that is not the only controversial mark on his resume. Stay with us. The challenge before us is great but the time for action is now. And i will not let you down. [ applause ] were back with our other big domestic story tonight after 22 days of complete chaos on capitol hill, House Republicans have finally managed to select a new speaker of house. His name is congressman mike johnson. He is a fourterm congressman from louisiana. He did what over a dozen republican speaker candidates were unable to do, which is get 217 votes. And unite the party including the hard right and the right and the few moderates that are left. We want our allies around the world to know that this body of lawmakers is reporting again to our duty stations. Let the Enemies Of Freedom Around The World hear us loud and clear. The peoples house is back in business. Speaker johnsons ascension does not come without controversy. He seems, he has a manner that is moderate. But he is without question one of the most conservative members of congress in the house. Hes one of the most staunch opponents of abortion. He led efforts to over turn and decertify the 2020 election. An election that has been proven time and again to have had no widespread voter fraud. Perhap perhaps the following two moments sum it up. A floor speech that occurred almost simultaneously as rioters smashed the windows on january 6, the second just last night. Madam speaker, we have a solemn responsibility today. We must vote to sustain objections to states of electors committed by states that we believe clearly violated the constitution and the president ial election of 2020. This is the threshold legal question before us. And it is an issue before us for the state of arizona. You help the efforts to over turn the 2020 election oh, gosh. Shut up. Shut up. Next question. So it was important then but doesnt want to talk about it now. Interesting. Any way, who exactly is congressman, Speaker Mike Johnson and what does he stand for. Brian todd takes a look at Speaker Johnsons record. Frankly, we did win this election. Reporter in the contentious days after the 2020 election, when then President Trump was desperately maneuvering to hold on to power. Mike johnson was one of trumps most zealous supporters in congress. The system is set up for massive fraud and error. And irregularity and we cant have that in our election system. Reporter the republican from louisiana led a group of conservative lawmakers who signed a court filing which tried to nullify Electoral College votes in several states won by joe biden. A legal efforts that wau rejected by the Supreme Court. I think all of that is partly what makes him a favorable candidate for donald trump. You could expect democrats to be looking to highlight this stuff. Reporter just after the 2020 election was called for joe biden, johnson posted on x, then known as twitter, quote, i have just called President Trump to stay this. Stay strong and keep fighting, the nation is depending upon your resolve. Today outside of court the former president complemented the congressman. I think hes doing well. A respected congressman. Reporter but if you think he came out of nowhere to win the speakership. You might not be alone. Long time senator Susan Collins from johnsons own party said, quote, i was going to google him this morning. A lot people dont know him which means he doesnt have a lot of enemies. Reporter first elected to congress in 2016. Johnson staunchly aposed abortion and celebrating the Supreme Court decision to over turn roe v. Wade and calling it a great joyous occasion. The founders and who put this country together recognize that life was sacred because it is given to us by our creator, by god. Reporter johnson has also been a fierce opponent of lgbtq rights. In the mid 2000s in the wrote in the Shreveport Times that homosexuality is a unnatural and dangerous lifestyle that would lead to legalized pedophilia. Hes the least experienced speaker elected in 140 years. Is he in over his head . The speaker job is an on the job training situation. Nobody is prepared for that role unless theyve already been in it. Reporter analysts say mike johnson wont have much of a Honeymoon Period as house speaker. One of first big tests coming in the day leading up to the November 17th Government Shutdown deadline, a test to see if he could work with democrats to keep the government funded and navigate the hardline republicans who tossed Kevin Mccarthy from power. Jake. Brian todd, thank you so much. Let bring in Republican Congress man mike waltz of florida. Congressman, thanks for joining us. Every single republican who was present today voted to make mike johnson the new speaker. C

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