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Order of business under the new House Speaker passing a resolution supporting israels war against hamas. It passed with a vote of 41210, a rare moment of close to total unity, at a pivotal time. Thank you so much for joining. Our coverage from israel our coverage from israel continues now with ac 360. Captions by vitac www. Vitac. Com it is 3 00 a. M. In tel aviv and tonight we have a rare look inside the Hamas Tunnel System that israeli troops could face if and when they go into gaza. Also the efforts to get more hostages out. And an update on deteriorating conditions inside gaza itself. We begin with what happened back in washington, which certainly matters when it comes to American Military assistance for israels war effort here. Today, three weeks after ousting Kevin Mccarthy from the speakers chair, House Republicans finally agreed on someone to replace him. He is congressman mike johnson, with less than seven Years Experience in the chamber. Hes a 2020 Election Denier who worked to overturn the outcome. That said, he managed to win unanimous support from fellow republicans today, even those on record saying they would not vote for an Election Denier. They did. Melanie zanona starts us off on capitol hill with more. How was speaker johnson able to do what all those others could not . Reporter anderson, johnson really benefitted from the pure exhaustion inside the gop. After 22 days of chaos, republicans were really desperate to unify and put this ugly chapter behind them. Johnson is well liked in the conference. Hes also very conservative and very closely aligned with former president trump. It seems his most important quality was that he had no enemies in the conference, in part because hes a lowlevel member, pretty obscure Rank And File member. So, you know, he became the nominee last night, and less than 24 hours later, he was already the speaker. And he didnt even have to cut over any deals with the right wing of his party in order to become speaker, anderson. And has johnson said what his priorities will be legislatively . Well, his first act as speaker today was to put a bipartisan resolution on the floor condemning hamas, expressing support for israel. And it passed with overwhelming support. So, there was an early and easy victory there for johnson, but he is going to face much harder legislative challenges in the days and weeks ahead. Of course he has Government Funding to deal with. That expires november 17th. That was an issue that bedefled Kevin Mccarthy. Hes going to have to heel these deep wounds that exist insid the gop. And hes also going to have to tackle the topic of whether to couple ukraine aid and israel aid. I caught up with johnson a little bit ago, asked him whether he supports ukraine aid. That is something that has been divisive within the gop. Heres what he had to say. Were working through it. Well get you more details. What kind of conditions . We want accountability, and we want objectives that are clear from the white house. But were going to have those discussions and be very productive. Reporter so, johnson is going to have to face the same tricky political headwinds that Kevin Mccarthy did. And johnson is a much less experienced leader. Hes very untested. But in a positive sign for johnson, those hardline republicans who ousted Kevin Mccarthy are signaling that theyre prepared to give johnson a much longer leash to govern, at least for now, anderson. All right. Melanie zanona, thanks. More now on where johnson stands on important issues, positions that might not have been widely known, significant beyond his constituency during his comparatively short time in congress leading up to this moment. For that, i want to turn it to dana bash. Dana, how surprising is it that this particular congressman, out of everyone in the house gop conference, is the new speaker . Well, its surprising when you look at the context of how one usually becomes speaker. Because its usually based on tenure, and that tenure allows somebody to get relationships, to build those relationships over years, to help with fundraising. That is usually a very, very big part of becoming speaker, proving to your conference or your caucus that you can help them get elected or reelected. And its also usually proof that you can lead. Somebody is usually but the very least, a chairman of a committee. And mike johnson is none of that, ha of that experience at all. And its really, really telling about where the Republican Party is, particularly in the house right now. As ive heard from several House Republican members, its because he had the fewest enemies. And the Biggest Issue with all of those who tried before him and failed is that they had too much experience. And it was experience in this really, really divided, really toxic environment that you see the House Republicans a part of. The more experience, the more knowledge that people have, the more enemies that they made, which is such a new dynamic when it comes to picking a House Speaker. One experience that congressman johnson does have is his efforts to overturn the 2020 election, which he was obviously asked about before he was elected. Lets listen. Can you the efforts to overturn the 2020 election next question. I mean, they dont want to hear about it, clearly. But its true. Can you walk us through how involved he was . Yeah, it is true. And that was a really important and very good question. And the reason why his colleagues who are had just elected him this was the night before he became speaker didnt want to hear it is because they dont want to go there. But the reality is, anderson, that, as an attorney, he took it upon himself to try to gather signatures among House Republicans to file a friend of the court brief, an amicus brief, on behalf of a lawsuit that texas was bringing to decertify, not texas votes in 2020, but the votes of several states that were Battleground States that donald trump lost. Now, ultimately the Supreme Court didnt even hear the case, so it became moot. But that was a big part of his effort in 2020. And he still has not answered a really fundamental question, which is, is he satisfied with that . Does he feel comfortable that joe biden was the free and fair freely and fairly elected president of the United States, as all evidence shows he was . And you know, when he was a back venture, it was something that was not great. When he is second in line to the presidency, as he is now, it is a question that he must answer. Dana, the new speaker is very closely aligned with former president trump, the maga agenda. He also has a very conservative voting record. How is that going to impact his speakership . Its not yet. And so much of this is unclear because hes so untested and hes so new. And, yeah, he is closely aligned with donald trump, so much so that he was first elected in 2016, the year that donald trump was elected president. And i mean, that just shows how new hes, in some ways, a more traditional social conservative, very staunchly against Abortion Rights and staunchly against rights for gay marriage, which actually, in the second in both, it puts him at odds with the majority of people feel in the country. But when you look at his party, that is not a position on gay marriage, on samesex marriage that in 2023 a lot of main Stream Republicans support. So, it definitely puts him at odds with those voters. The question is and youre getting to this with your question, to me, anderson how he will govern as speaker. Whether he will try to push those agenda items in an aggressive way, especially given how we have seen voters react on the issue of abortion in particular. We know that democrats are going to be all over. They already are all over the 18 republicans who serve in the house, who serve in districts where joe biden won. The democrats who want to take back the house are going to hang speaker johnsons positions around the neck of every one of those endangered republicans. Dana bash, dana, thank you. Thanks. As for the former president , he briefly took the stand today, the Witness Stand in the new york civil fraud trial. It came at the judges orders after the defendant said this during a break in testimony by his former lawyer and fixer, Michael Cohen. This judge is a very partisan judge with a person whos very partisan sitting alongside of him, perhaps even much more partisan than he is. As you know, the former president is already under a gag order, barring him from attacking the judge and the judges staff, in particular the judges clerk. Hes already been fined 5,000 for violating that order. So, when the court returned, the judge called him to the stand, where trump insisted he was not talking about the clerk, who sits to the judges right. Instead the former president claimed he was referring to Michael Cohen in the witness chair to the judges left. Now, the judge, replying, quote, i find that the witness is not credible, and fining him 10,000 in response. Joining us now, cnn legal analyst, joey jackson, and cnns kaitlan collins, host of the source, coming up at the top of the next hour. So, joey, how unusual is it for a judge to haul a civil defendant up to the Witness Stand, listen to what he has to say, and then deem him not credible and fine him . Yeah, anderson, it doesnt happen that often. And obviously it does happen. It happened here. But its certainly a significant step for a judge to do that. Think about what happened here. Number one, the judge issued a determination that there was a vie liefgts gag order. But more importantly, the judge held mr. Trump accountable for that violation and account to believe the tune of what he understands. And that is money. And so i think what the judge is doing, by doing that and ill get to the credibility determination momentarily is saying, look, what i say matter. If theres a gag order, youre going to follow it. Im going to hold you accountable now and im going to deter you in the future from even thinking of violating my order. As to the finding of credibility to mr. Trump, thats huge too. Think about the case were talking about. Credibility is everything in a case like this, where youre running a company and youre alleged to engaged in persistent fraud. If a judge deems you not credible, think about what the judge might be believing with respect to testimony involving this company and the fraud that theyre accused of. So, a wholly Significant Development by all accounts with respect to the merits of the case and with regards to him not abiding, mr. Trump, that is, by the orders the judge imposed. And kaitlan, any sense how this is going over in the trump orbit . I can guarantee you when they all woke up this morning, trumps legal team and trump himself, they did not think he would be called to the stand today. This is a result of nearly every day when he has gone into the courtroom here in manhattan, he has spoken to reporters, railing against the Attorney General here in new york, going off on the judge, of course, what the judge believed going off on one of his law clerks again today after he already posted pictures of her. That was the reason he got the first fine. It was seen as a technicality because he left it up on his campaign site. I think the 15 grand is not something that is obviously going to hurt someone like a donald trump, but it is the essence of it. He is now facing punishment for the comments he is making. And he got up there and tried to make his own argument, tried to argue that he wasnt actually talking about this law clerk, even though the judge noted she sat a lot closer to him than Michael Cohen did, who was in the Witness Stand. And the judge quickly did not believe him. This is the first time weve seen donald trump testifying in an open court in more than a decade. He is expected to testify in this trial not related to this matter, anderson. And it doesnt seem to bode well for what that testimony is going to look like. Kaitlan, the fact he continues to attend this trial i know there were some days he wasnt there its just a sign of how important he thinks this is. Its personal. Its incredibly personal for him. Hes flying up here from florida to come to this. Hes not just hanging out in new jersey at his nearby club. He went back to florida after leaving the courtroom. He has sat in multiple days. He is not sitting there quietly paying attention to the proceedings. Weve heard from reporters in the room, hes at times throwing his hands in the air, rolling his eyes at the proceedings. Him and Michael Cohen being in the same courtroom is itself shocking. I dont think theyve been in the same room for five years. Theyre relationship has completely devolved and deteriorated. He really cares about the outcome of this, even though largely its already been, kind of, decided. What happens if he runs afoul of the gag order again . Yeah, i think the judge is setting the tone, anderson, as to what it relates to what he anticipates. This is not a broad, hard to follow gag order. Staff is off limits. Do not address them. He did. What the judge did is in keeping with what judges like to do, that is ensure decor m, ensure people are not attacked or demeaned for simply doing their job. Its setting the stage for moving forward, that im going to have something to say about it. I think we could see fines that increase and continue to increase. And remember this is not the first time in connection with this case that he was fined. He was fined because of not complying with handing over information to Attorney General to the tune of over 100,000. And i would just add that in a case where a judge is making a judicial determination about whether youre responsible and certainly your licenses are at stake in the state of new york and what you do in your Business Practices and what the findings are, i think hes the last person that you might want to get upset and who you might not want to follow their orders. So, well see whether mr. Trump could comply with that moving forward. Joey jackson, kaitlan collins, well see you at the top of the hour. Coming up next for us, inside some of the tunnels that Israel Forces may soon have to go into in search of hamas gunmen or the hostages. Also the latest on conditions at hospitals in gaza, with very little aid and no fuel coming into the territory. And as we go to break, more of the faces and names youll see throughout the program of israelis taken hostage on october 7th. In his televised address earlier today, israels Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said this about sending troops in gaza. Quoting now, i will not detail when, how, or how many or the overall considerations were taking into account, most of which are unknown to the public, and this is how it needs in order to better safeguard the live of our soldiers. Whether spoken or not, one of those considerations is certainly the network of tunnels that hamas has built under gaza to move undetected, store weapons, and now hold hostages. More from cnns nic robertson. Reporter this is the invisible danger awaiting israeli troops in gaza. Hamas tunnels, miles of them, hiding the wellarmed terror groups fighters. The video, Hamas Propaganda, distributed by the Israel Defense force shows concrete reinforced subterranean passages. Israeli hostage, lifshitz, Saw Them First Hand before she was released late monday. Translator we began walking inside the tunnels with the wet ground. It was moist all the time. Reporter hamas and Palestinian Islamic jihad have been building tunnels under gaza for at least a decade. The is made out of concrete. Reporter over the years, cnn has been shown them by both the idf, after capture, and by the terror groups themselves, showing off their underground advantage as propaganda, a place to hide weapons, estimated at dozens of miles long. They snake underneath many of gazas neighborhoods. And theyve become known to israelis as the gaza metro. These new videos the idf is sharing appear to show a progression in sophistication, and therefore an increase in potential danger to troops in the event of a Ground Incursion into gaza. Like a 21st century equivalent of world war i trenches, these b burrows small trap doors in the desert let militants evade advancing troops, even sneak up behind them. And the danger down here, not just to the troops above, but to israeli civilians too. Longrange rockets stored on Wall Brackets can be rushed forward to be fired toward tel aviv and other cities from Hidden Gun Pits connected directly to the tunnels, making the launch sites even harder for the idf to strike back at. Only after an incursion can israel expect to fully destroy the terror tunnels. Absent that, the socalled Gaza Metro With Outfox and endanger Israeli Soldiers and civilians alike. Some of the detonations we can hear from here that you can feel sometimes, anderson, i think these are intended to try to penetrate deep down and take out some of those tunnels. But after the 2014 incursion, the idf went in and they used bulldozers to get rid of the tunnels. So, that really shows you, even with the really heavy munitions, theyre not going to be able to eradicate all these threats that the troops are going to face when they get in there. And that is, of course, something that plays heavily on the minds of those soldiers. Knowing that militant Hamas Terrorists can pop up behind them when they think theyve already cleared a house or a field, anderson. Nic robertson, thanks. I want to get perspective on the challenges the tunnels might present for the idf. Back with us tonight is retired army colonel peter mon sure, former top aid to general petraeus. So, i mean, its fascinating to see these tunnels both in idf video that they put out and also Hamas Propaganda video. Can you just talk about the challenges of dealing with a network like that . How do you destroy them . How do you fight in them . Well, preferably you dont fight in them. In world war ii, on iwo jima, for instance, the japanese had an extensive tunnel network. The marines would simply find the entrances and close them off, whether with explosives or bulldozers or flame throwers. And they would entomb the japanese inside. In gaza, this is a problem, though, because inside those tunnels, there may be some of those hostages that hamas has taken. And of course you want to free them. But fighting inside tunnels is slow, dirty work, claustrophobic, and very, very dangerous. And it advantages the defender. So, i dont think the Israeli Defense forces really want to get into a close knockdowndraggout fight inside those tunnels. Even mapping or gathering information about the tunnels must be extremely difficult. Yes, you might be able to, with persistent surveillance, find the entrances and exits. But where the tunnels lead, how they snake around underground, almost impossible to tell from overhead reconnaissance. The israelis, as they advance forward with their Ground Offensive are going to have to leave troops in the rear to secure their rear areas. They cant assume that once theyve cleared a building, for instance, that there arent hatches through which the militants can come up from the ground behind them. And in a dense urban environment, like gaza, with obviously now lots of debris around, i know they have bulldozers as well, but how vulnerable are apcs, tanks, in urban combat . Well, its a misnomer that urban combat is just infantry combat. The best force to use in urban combat is a Combined Arms Team that has tanks, that has infantry fighting vehicles. But they need to be protected on the ground by dismounted infantry and overhead by air defense and air force assets. So, the Combined Arms Team rules the battlefield, and thats as true in the urban environment as it is in the open desert. How do you think this conflict you and i have talked about mosul, the u. S. Experience there, iraqi forces experiences there. Or fallujah. Were the civilian populations pretty much cleared out of those places . In fallujah, yes, the u. S. Forces and iraqi forces surrounded fallujah and gave them several weeks to get out before they went in. That was a fairly clean battlefield, if you will. M mosul still had some civilians, although far fewer than are in gaza. And there were civilian casualties in that fighting. But the way that the u. S. And iraqi forces went about Clearing Mosul reduced those casualties using Special Forces and targeted air strikes. If you go in with a big, heavy Ground Invasion, as the israelis might be planning, then theres going to be a lot of death and destruction in the path of the advance. And if civilians are in those buildings, as theyre assaulted, a lot of of them are going to die. And so is that the idea of more limited incursion with Special Forces . Is that something you would recommend in a situation, given the number of hostages and the civilian population still there . Well, theres a Marine Three Star General in israel right now whos probably recommending that course of action to the Israeli Defense forces, to do it the way we did it in mosul. But theres a drawback to that. It takes longer. And theres a calculation that the Israeli Government needs to make. How long is the World Community going to give them once they go in with Ground Forces . Can they afford a several monthlong Battle Versus something that will be quicker but more deadly . Colonel peter mansoor, thank you, appreciate it. Coming up four hostages we know released now. More than 200 remain. My next guest says, this is a crisis unlike any other hes seen as a Hostage Negotiator in israel. He helped part of the negotiations in the 2011 release of israeli soldier although that took years and years of negotiations. His insights next. The power goes out and we still have wifi to do our homework. And thats a good thing . Great in my book who are you . No power . No problem. Introducing stormready wifi. Now you can stay reliably connected through Power Outages with unlimited cellular data and up to 4 hours of battery backup to keep you online. Only from xfinity. Home of the xfinity 10g network. Qatar, one of the nations involved behind the scenes in negotiations to release hostages held by hamas, says, its hopeful for a break through, quote, soon. As you know, four hostages have been released. More than 200 remain. The United States has pressed israel to delay a Ground Invasion inside gaza while negotiations are going on. My next guest helped negotiate the release of gilad shalit. That effort for one soldier took more than five years, and the release of more than 1,000 Palestinian Prisoners, including the current leader of hamas in gaza. Now gershon says in an oped in the New York Times says this crisis is like none other. Gershon baskin has also been speaking with his contacts with hamas since the october 7th attack, and i talked to him earlier. Gershon, first of all, where do you think we are in these negotiations behind the scenes . I have been in touch with people in hamas and people in qatar, people in egypt, and no one will confirm what is holding up the agreement right now. Israel has intensified the bombings in gaza this evening, which is unbelievable, with the Human Suffering thats going on there. And no one seems to be in a rush to get this done. In a deal to release gilad shalit, as you know, more than 1,000 Palestinian Prisoners were released, one of them is leading hamas right now. At the time, did you have a sense that could happen . Do you regret making that deal . I know this is personal for you as well. It is personal for me because four of the people who were released in that deal killed my wifes first cousin a year before gilad was abducted. So, it was personal. So, the people who you were involved in so, the people you were involved in negotiating with, some of the prisoners who were going to be released, they had killed a member of your own family, your wifes family . Well, i didnt have iganythi to do with selecting the list of prisoners, and i was not a decision maker. Prime minister netanyahu and member of his government voted for the deal. The whole National Security establishment supported the deal. What i thought believed was that once an israeli soldier was no longer in gaza, the reality on the ground would could open. We could gradually work out some with hamas that would enable people to have a chance at a better life, that the whole palestinian question could be addressed seriously. But mr. Netanyahu had a completely different strategy, was keeping hamas in power. And it delegitimized Palestinian Authority in ramallah because he never wanted to deal with the palestinian issue. And this way he can say, theres no one to talk to. We have no partner is the slogan used by netanyahu all these years. Who do you want us to negotiate with. Sinwar served 22 years of a Life Sentence for killing palestinians. He never killed an israeli before. He killed collaborators with israel. This is a man walking by on the screen. Israel operated on him he had brain cancer. Israel took care of him and saved his life from cancer, and this is the man who is leading gaza today. So, do you believe deals should be made because there are those who take a hard line and say there should be no negotiations over hostages, which is obviously a very an emotionally its an impossible choice. Right. You know, if there is a chance of a Military Operation that could rescue the hostages, if that was 1974 and the israelis could sweep in and save everyone and lose one soldier, the brother of mr. Netanyahu, then that would be amazing. But thats not the reality here. If we send in military ops Special Forces, were going to lose soldiers and probably a large number of the hostages are going to be killed as well. Just finally, do you think its possible to have a situation where the elderly, the wounded, babies, all the civilians are released, as a sign of good faith, if you will, from hamas . Or you can call it whatever you want. Is it possible that all the civilians might be released and then theres a longer negotiation over soldiers . Right. I think that theres a very good chance, still, while the window is open before the Ground Incursion begins, that there is a negotiated agreement for the release of civilians, the women, the children, the elderly, and the sick, the wounded. This is definitely a possibility. Hamas has not demanded, to the best of my knowledge, a prisoner released from israel for that. They want a ceasefire. They want the bombing of gaza to end. They believe that the ceasefire will be held by israel because they will be holding onto the Israeli Soldiers. And thats the belief or guarantee that israel wont continue the war. I think once the civilian hostages are released, israel will have the green light to rescue the hostages as part of its main military objective. I think hamas is taking a big risk. Israel could agree to a ceasefire and then break that agreement for a ceasefire knowing the risks that are being taken. Hamas could kill the hostages. They acted like i. S. I. S. Inside israel. They can act like i. S. I. S. Inside gaza as well. This is a danger. This is a real risk. But i think the primary israeli directive is to remove hamas ability to govern and threaten israel any longer, even at the risk of sacrificing hostages. You believe that . I think thats the reality of israel today. That could change. But that is certainly the mood of the country, even though the voices of the families of the hos hostage rings stronger. Today, for instance, for the first time i think in 17 days i think were now in the war, the Military Spokesperson said if the primary objective is not only to remove hamas but also to bring the hostages home. That was the first day when it said this is the primary objective. So, theyve now combined the two objectives as being primary. Its going to be very difficult. But the first thing we need to do is get out everyone that hamas is willing to get out in exchange for a ceasefire, in exchange for whatever issue theyre haggling over thats slowing the process down. We need to get it done quickly. Gershon baskin, thank you. Thank you for your time. Thank you very much. I want to bring you a breaking situation right now back in the United States. Police investigating what local Law Enforcement in maine are calling two active shooter events. Lewiston is just northeast of portland. I want to go to cnns athena jones, who has the latest on the situation there. Athena, whats going on . Well, anderson, these reports are coming in slowly, more details were getting by the minute. In fact, another shooting, a third location a shooting at a third location, a walmart distribution center, appears to also be under investigation. Thats according to The Sun Journal newspaper. But the county Sheriffs Office has released a photograph of the suspect that i believe we can put up on the screen. Theyre calling for folks in two neighbors cities, lewiston, maine, and auburn, maine, to shelter in place after reports of shootings. Theyre being investigated at multiple locations, telling residents, please stay inside your homes with the doors locked. Law enforcement is currently investigating. Schools are currently in lockdown. You may ask why would schools need to be in lockdown. Apparently there have been activities going on at those locations. So, these events are still unfolding. But you can see there, a man who appears to have some sort of long gun we dont know what kind of gun that is. And they are investigating these events occurring at multiple locations. The Sun Newspaper reporting sara, let me ask you go ahead. I was going to say, reporting the first two locations being reported, spare time recreation, seems like a Recreation Center in lewiston, and also bar and Grill Restaurant on another street in lewis ton. We dont yet have a map. But we know lewiston is a relatively small city, a population of about 36,000, about four miles north of portland, maine. And authorities in next door auburn, which is about two miles away from lewiston are also asking residents to shelter in place as this investigation unfolds. But still a lot of details that are still waiting to come in. Yeah. I want to bring in cnns security correspondent josh campbell. Josh, as we look at this image, normally we dont put up images of active shooters. But given that this is an ongoing situation, police are obviously wanting any information about this person. Its believed this person is still active. What stands out to you at this time . Well, youre absolutely right, anderson. This is essentially the only time we like to publicize the shooter, when police are actively trying to find this person. They are appealing to the public, if you see this person to call 911. Looking at that imagery right there, what you see is a highpowered assaultstyle rifle. If we center in, you can see theres a long magazine. What that means is this is a lot of fire power, eight lot of ammunition that someone can fire in a short period of time. The individual appears to be wearing cargo pants there. Weve seen in past incidents they bring additional mag zazin to these situations. Were seeing reports of different incidents. Police have been sends out these orders, shelter in place orders, because we believe that this individual has gone to these multiple locations. Just because there are multiple lokes dont necessarily mean there are multiple shooters. It appears this person is on the move and authorities are trying to find this person. We do know there were a host of Law Enforcement from multiple agencies. These are different jurisdictions that theyre warning residents to be on the lookout. When that happens, the boundaries go away. Police will fuse together. Again, their goal is Public Safety and preservation of life and trying to find this individual. They are essentially following these reports, mapping it out, as you will. Where can this person be going . One thing thats interesting, at this time of day, obviously were far its too soon to know about what the motive is. At this time of day, if you have someone intent on causing mass loss of life, it would be these kinds of locations, a Recreation Center, a distribution center, where you would have lots of personnel. So, a dangerous situation, authorities are issuing that shelter in place to try to keep people off the streets. Josh, how unusual is it obviously the fbi has done studies on every active shooting situation and compiled statistics. We know most the fatalities in active shooter situations occur within the first minute of an incident. But the fact that they are looking at multiple locations, three possible locations and again, we dont, at this point, know the distance between those locations, if this individual got into a vehicle or if these were all within a short walking distance. But the fact that there are multiple lokes already, what does that tell you . Well, it tells me that this is an individual obviously that is searching for targets. It appears that way, going to places that are populated. Were not talking about a major metropolitan area like new york city or los angeles. It takes time for Law Enforcement to respond, particularly in a smaller jurisdiction where they may not have a large amount of police on a particular shift. They have to call in additional officers, sending word out to other agencies, federal, state, local, to bring them in. That takes time in somewhere remote like this. That provides the shooter time to move to different locations. Obviously now that theyre flooding the zone with authorities, theyre hoping this person may go to ground. They want to prevent the additional loss of life. But youll have Additional Police assets out there. If someone does call 911 and say, we see this individual, they can quickly vector those police to that location. This is also the critical time. As theyre treating patients, theyre also looking for witnesses, interviewing people at every one of those scenes trying to figure out who this person is. Do you recognize this individual . Obviously this is the snapshot in time, what the person was wea wea wearing at that moment. All critical pieces of information as this manhunt continues. Also, josh, theres a lot we dont know. Do we know the time that the First Police Report came in . Or do we know the time the police first alerted the public about this . Just to get a sense of how long this individual has been out there with a Gun Operating . We dont. And obviously weve been trying to reach out to Law Enforcement. They have their hands full right now. Obviously theyre putting this image out there. You have a lot of officers, particularly in smaller jurisdictions. They may not have a fulltime person that deals with Public Engagement in the media. We do know as these reports have come in, weve been listening and seeing what officers have been saying. Were not talking bt aan extended period of time. But we are seeing time and again reports come in of a new incident. After those reports come, theyll put that information out. Well report it. Theyre trying to figure out if anyone knows who this person is or the location they might be. They want people to call Law Enforcement very quickly. Were on a different timeline, but were not talking about hours going by. This is all happening in quick succession. Josh campbell, athena jones, thank you. Were going to keep on this throughout the hour. Just ahead, the gaza hospital crisis. Clarissa ward joins us next. Hows the chicken . The prawns are delicious. Oh, i have a shellfish allergy. One prawn. Very good. Did i say Chicken Wrong . Tired of people not listening to what you want . Its truffle season ah thats okay. Never enough truffles. How much are they . Its a lot. Oh okay im good, that its like a priceless piece of art. Enjoy. Or when they sell you what they want . Yeah. The more we understand you, the better we can help you. Thats what u. S. Bank is for. Huge relief. Yeah. Clarissa ward has more on that. We want to warn you some of the images youll see are graphic. Every Family Members bidding farewell to their loved ones. Did not survive the night. Ritual that tragically has become all too familiar in gaza. Women and children, these are the targets this man laments, this is hamas. Hours earlier the chaotic moments as the dead and injured were brought into the hospital during the most intense night of bombardment in the last 17 days. And as with every night so many of the victims, children. A doctor says the e. R. Has struggled to keep up with a flood of casualties, and the severity of the injuries that they are dealing with, particularly third degree burns. The hospital is not prepared to deal with these types of burns, and i dont suppose the bigger hospitals would be able to, either, he says, were suffering from a lack of essentials due to the siege, even as we speak now at any moment the electricity could cut off. The World Health Organization has warned that 12 of gazas 35 hospitals are no longer functioning. And that number is act to get higher unless desperately needed fuel arrives. Less to fend for themselves with no place to go, they watch and wait for help that has yet to co come. Clarissa joins me now. Concern that gaza would run out of fuel tonight. Do we know what the status of that is . Reporter well, we havent been able to get in touch with any of the hospitals tonight. We have spoken to the u. N. Agency that operates inside of gaza and they had warned yesterday they were about to run out of fuel, now theyre saying if they dont get more fuel tonight or tomorrow that theyll be forced to suspend operations, you remember, anderson, we spoke to that doctor at the hospital on monday, he said two days worth of fuel left, i have tried to message him several times. We havent heard back. Well be contacting him again in the morning but its very clear that we are talking about the very last drops of fuel at the moment, anderson, and with every moment that goes by, theres the risk of that those generators will no longer be able to function, ventilators, incubators, all of them will come to a grinding halt unless the International Community can come together and find some consensus on this issue soon, anderson. Clarissa ward, thank you for that report. Next, what israels Prime Minister said in his address to the nation. Well have more ahead. Nice footwork. 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I dont know, how Many Americans resigned after 9 11 but here it doesnt work like that. After 2006 during the second lebanon war, the Chief Of Staff resigned, the Prime Minister resigned the Defense Minister resigned. Does the doubt about netanyahu among many here, does it does it make this Ground Operation more difficult . Does it weaken the military . It weakens our resilience and ill explain. Everybody knows who the commander of the chief of the armed forces its the president of the United States. Yes, a trivial question, whos the Commander In Chief of the Israeli Defense forces, its not the Chief Of Staff, its not the Prime Minister, its the government, the whole government is the Commander In Chief, this country fights on the basis of consensus and if theres any question about the governments legitimacy, willingness to take responsibility, it will impact the entire system. Youre hearing from israelis that you think the Prime Minister should accept responsibility. What theyre saying is, either he should step down or ill accept responsibility which is code in israel for after this i will step down and with the Chief Of Staff took responsibilities, im going to fight this war but after this im leaving. So, you know, people have been using the word imminent for this Ground Operation for three weeks. What do you think is going on and how long can it be delayed . Well, whats going on, theyre saying theres tactical and strategic reasons, maybe the forces arent up in terms of training, you cant take people out of civilian life who did a reserve duty three years ago and throw them into combat. Particularly this combat. Right. They have to have the right equipment. The air force wants to flatten certain areas of the combat. So they can move without going through a dense urban environment. To do that you have to get the civilians out. Thats what is delaying it. The United States is saying to israel more humanitarian aid. Tyou have 360,000 reservists called up. You know, thats like more reservists than the entire American Military, thats the size of the army that moved into iraq in 2003 you cant keep an army of 360,000 Army Reservists indefinitely on that position. Who are the reservists . These are people, women and men in their 20s and 30s. The backbone of this economy. Most of them are married, most of them have kids. Theyve been away from their houses for three weeks. Theres a morale issue. They get fired up at first and maybe they wont be so fired up when theyre sitting out there for three weeks. Hostage families say the number one priority should be getting the hostages back. What netanyahu said today, essentially during hamas and as much as possible getting the hostages, getting the hostages back. Are those the same . Theyre going to have to be, unfortunately, why, because im going tell you, israel cant accept the ceasefire, ceasefire means hamas wins. After 9 11, well have a ceasefire, somehow negotiate, its impossible. Aw a ceasefire, i