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CNNW King July 4, 2024

In an a Tourist Arctic Penal Colony early this month. His body was then withheld, say navalnys team. What is widow calls and abuse that prolonged the familys agony he was starved in a tiny stones glad you from the outside world and denied visits, phone calls. And then even letters and then they killed him. Even after that, they abused his body. And itd be used. His mother the kremlin denies allegations of wrongdoing and any responsibility for navalnys death the kremlin meanwhile, western ambassadors have been remembering the loss of another russian Opposition Leader, navalny. But boris nemtsov, gun down here back in 2015, the kremlin denies any involvement in this killing two but anyone who takes on russias Position Mantle knows theyre taking huge risk. Well, erin, its still unclear tonight where in moscow exactly Alexey Navalny will be varied. The Funeral Service is being held at a church in the area of the russian capital where the late Opposition Leader lived. But the valleys team say that under pressure now to move the burial to a different more private cemetery where the General Public can be more easily kept away. Erin, back to you. Thanks so much for joining us. The lead starts now welcome to the lead. Im jake tapper this hour, the upper in alabama, the protests today at the State Capitol building demanding new laws on the books after that controversial ruling by the Alabama Supreme Court classifying frozen embryos as children plus a must see special report, the disturbing discovery after cnn spent weeks combing through video of damage in gaza, comparing that with satellite imagery. And two accounts of those who survived strikes in the war ravaged region and leading this hour, the moment House Republicans have been trying to score for months and their Impeachment Inquiry into joe biden, the president today star witness, the president s son, hunter biden, finally given closed door testimony as republicans try to connect hunters sketchy Business Dealings to his father with us now to discuss democratic congressman robert garcia, whos a member of the House Oversight committee. He was in the room for Hunter Bidens testimony today. Congressman, thanks for joining us. So hunter biden in his Opening Statement today, were told said, quote, i did not involve my father in my business unquote. Now, we know he has talk to his dad on Speaker Phone while meeting with business partners. His dad might have dropped down and dropped by a meeting or two or dinner or two. Beyond that, which weve known, did republicans have republicans presented any evidence today that might go beyond that . I mean, not a shred of evidence. There has been zero evidence presented by anyone that links of course, the president to any of Hunter Bidens Business Dealings what we learned today essentially was that hunter loves his father a lot. He admits his own wrongdoings in the past. He has obviously recovering from addiction himself and he laid out all will the information that was asked of him. I was there for three plus hours and question after question is zero. Evidence was produced at links the president to anything as far as were concerned, this impeachment sham is over. Theres nothing else to do. James comer has presented witnesses end up being spies the russian intelligence, conspiracy theorists, and hunter biden have nothing else to add today. So were trying to move on to be quite honest all right. Congressman robert garcia. Thank you so much. I have to leave it there because we have some major Breaking News cnn Breaking News, Breaking News just into cnn, the us Supreme Court has weighed in on one of the cases about former President Donald Trump. So lets go straight to cnns paula reid. Paula, what is the news from the us Supreme Court . What did they decide on the Immunity Case . This is a this is a massive development. Jake, the Supreme Court has agreed to take up the issue of whether former President Trump has immunity from the federal Election Subversion case that he is facing. Now a Unanimous Appeals Court several weeks ago, issued a scathing opinion, a unanimous opinion and saying that he did not have immunity that would shield him from the federal Election Subversion case brought by Special Counsel, jack smith. So he asked the Supreme Court to pause that Lower Court Decision in the possibility the possibility that they would take up this issue. And now we have learned that the Supreme Court will take up this issue. This means that they will hear they will hear arguments. Now, it was just a few weeks ago, of course, that the Supreme Court court took up another appeal from former President Trump, that one having to do with whether he could appear on state ballots, whether states had the authority to remove him from their ballots. Now that that argument, j. Of course, you remember it went pretty well for former President Trump he is expected to prevail, but on this question of whether former President Trump has immunity that would shield him from the january 6 capon, the Special Counsel, many legal experts and even sources. Ive spoken with in and around former President Trumps legal team did not expect, do not expect that he would prevail on the merits of this. But now the Supreme Court has agreed hey, to take up this case. Now the Immediate Impact before we even know what they decide is that this will likely further delay that trial and we know that trumps strategy has been to try to delay both federal cases until after the 2024 election. Because if trump is reelected, he could likely make both of those go away. So this is a very Significant Development somewhat on it expected that the Supreme Court has decided to take up trumps Immunity Appeal all right. Fascinating stuff. Paula reid. Thank you so much. Cnn senior Supreme Court analyst Joan Biskupic joins us now, jonah, explain the significance of the move because i think ive heard some courtwatchers say they thought that it was possible that the court was just going to defer to the Appeals Court ruling that trump is not immune, but thats not what theyre doing. Theyre going to weigh in, explain absolutely not. Jake and i think the reason some people were suspecting that some people thought that in the beginning, but i always thought there would be 50, 50 chance. But as the days war on, we thought, why havent they, if theyre going to hear it, why didnt they tell us they want to hear i am begin the process. And as they delayed for the last two weeks, it seemed like well, maybe theyre going to summarily affirm What The Dc Circuit had done. A very sound opinion, rejecting the Immunity Claim or maybe they were going to deny it, and that some of the justices were writing descends from that denial. But what theyve done is actually not too surprising. Its just the timing of it that surprising i thought that these justices might think that they need to have the last word on a question of such consequences the power of, in this case, a former president rather than a president. But what theyve done now, jake, just to cut through everything thats procedural here is they have effectively ensured that we will not have a verdict on President Trumps Election Subversion allegations before summer because theyre not even going to hear this case until the week of april 22. And this is a complicated issue. It will probably take them a couple of weeks to get the opinion out. I mean, if best likely would come by the end of june when they typically recess for the session. But then were already in summer. Were just were right upon the republican can Convention Time and i just do not see now any kind of chance of a trial as had originally been scheduled for first week in march. Jake, what i think could have happened just to try to explain this timing is possibly there had been an effort behind the scenes to try to do something that would have liked left in place. The dc circuit opinion and to see if the chief mightve tried chief Justice John Roberts mightve tried to get some sort of majority around that. But the fact that they delayed even this order, this order that basically just says were going to take it up, that they delayed it for two weeks, suggests that they certainly like did not embrace the currency. Thats Special Counsel jack smith tried to impose upon them way back in december when jack smith went to the Supreme Court and said, justices, please take up this case now so that we can get a clear answer. This is yours to answer. And then once the dc circuit once the Supreme Court said no, were not coming in and the dc circuit ruled that was another several weeks, so President Trumps former President Trumps effort to run the clock has a partner in the Supreme Court at this point, even though jake probably in the end, the justices will agree with the dc circuit and say and reject president , former president Donald Trumps claim of absolute immunity. But what good will that do for any kind of trial before were really into the heat of this next president ial election. So just, just to recap, joan the us Supreme Court is not going to just like defer to the Appeals Court. They are going to hear the argument about whether or not donald trump has immunity. Can say that what he did as president is hes immune from prosecution because he was president at the time. Do we have any sort of timeline so the courts going to take up the case when are there going to be arguments . Right . So theyve set a time scheduled for briefs to come in written filings from the two side from Special Counsel, jack smith, who is representing the United States government here trying to bring this case against donald trump for what happened at the end of the 2020 Election Cycle before the 2024 . Four Election Cycle. So therell be filings from jack smith. Theyll be filings from former President Donald Trump. Im sure well have you cast of Amicus Briefs coming in trying to argue on both sides, and then the week of april 22, which is toward the end of their current Oral Arguments sitting for this annual session, they will actually hold hello, Oral Arguments all of our viewers will be able to hear those Oral Arguments when theyre held. But im telling you, jake, you know, its going to take several weeks after that to get a ruling just the nature of this case. Now that theyve decided themselves to take it up. Okay. So the april 22 is the week of Oral Arguments and i told them there be all sorts of arguments that they submitted amicus brief, et cetera. When do you think there will be any sort of decision potentially from the us Supreme Court after april 22 if i if i were betting just within minutes of having received this order, i would say the last week in june, id say the last week in june could come sooner. It could come sooner only because, you know, like it will be great if he come sooner because so many folks on both sides with an answer to this. But the fact that they have delayed even taking up the case from the moment when they couldve, you know, they were asked to take it up back in december. They were asked to take it up with some sort of urgency even earlier this month, and they didnt they waited a couple of weeks to even say they were going to come in and so i as i say, i dont think they feel the sense of urgency that the Department Of Justice and jack smith him articulated here. So im thinking end of june only jake because thats when theres session typically ends for this year when most of their cases are resolved by the end of june. But then look where we are and to june and if lets just go back to the trial judge who had wanted to actually hold a trial. She would have to engage in Jury Selection and then get that started. And, you know, that process takes several weeks. And were right into the thick of the president ial election. So who knows what will happen at that point, but i think the bottom line here is that the justices action today really ensures that we will not have a verdict on whether former President Donald Trump is guilty or, or even a judge not guilty of the Election Subversion claim set of their four counts of Election Subversion. You can here and see an obstruction. Everything that kind of culminated with a january 6 attack at the us capital. We will not have an answer to that. Anytime soon. Thats what this ensures. Jake and just to reiterate, so nine justices were going to hear this if chief Justice Roberts i dont maybe know. But what do we have any idea the dynamics behind the scenes here as to who because i cant imagine that the three democratic appointed justices so to my your and kagan and jackson, i cant imagine that they would agree with this. How many people need to hold the position of no, lets just delay delay, delay for that to happen. Okay. Under normal circumstances, it takes just four justices to grant a case, but it also takes five to adhere to any motion and there was a motion, of course, to block the effect of the lower Court Judgment here in a lower Court Judgment that i just want to stress again, was unanimous by a panel of the dc circuit that included appointee of the late president george hw bush, and two to appointees of president biden. It was a very robust decision against the former president because the former president was really, really pushing an extreme argument about absolute immunity once he left office but so youre right. There were probably justices on the left and maybe in the middle of the court who might not have thought that that they needed to weigh in on this. But at least five thought that this was the way to go to stop all the proceedings and wait for the justices tear it again. I think there was a good argument that the justices should have the final word in this. Its just that they were given that opportunity several months ago to have the final word in it, but theyve waited to this point and the week of april 22 to even hear the arguments on that. All right. Joan biskupic, our Supreme Court expert. Thank you so much. Lets bring in cnns evan perez, who covers the Justice Department for us. Evan walk us through what this means for the trial. Special counsel itll jack smith wants to try former President Trump for trying to steal the election yeah. Now we wont know. It probably according to joan prompt, maybe not even until the end of june, whether or not he can claim immunity. What does that mean . For the scheduling of this trial . Dooming that they dont find that he can claim immunity for everything, right . Well, jake, what this means is that when whenever this court comes back and renders a ruling on this, it means then that lets say lets say they do decide that donald trump does not have immunity as the Appeals Court had ruled. Then this goes back to tiny chutkan, the judge whos overseeing this case, and shes made very clear that she wants to move as quickly as possible, but still, jake, that means youre looking at probably another eight weeks before seven or eight weeks before you can get to trial. It pushes the calen

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