For joining us, cnn newsnight with abby phillip starts right now carnage and catastrophe in black and white. Thats tonight on newsnight good evening. Im abby philip in new york. What is it like to watch chaos unfold at your feet, unable to stop it, unable to do anything but watch well, tonight, the world knows this is video from the Israeli Defense forces. And thats warm, that buzzing nucleus. Those are people, Desperate Gazans surrounding aid trucks, who are carrying food and supplies now this hour, 112 of those people are now dead. Hundreds more are injured as cameras caught. A clear eyed view of what this war is doing to innocence inside of gaza. All of what youre about to watch is disturbing and its shocking. And we thought long and hard about whether to show this to you but the brutality of what happened is in escapable. This was the scene that was surrounding that aid convoy before the disaster intervene, palestinians huddled there chatter. You could hear here it there over the death of the fires that theyd set to keep warm as they waited. They just wanted to eat, they wanted to feed their kids and their parents the World Food Programme was last able to deliver aid to north gaza more than a month ago now, after a month without food and months scrambling for just the tiniest morsels this convoy, 30 trucks and all offered a rare glimmer of hope in the Pitch Darkness that is now life for palestinians in gaza. But hope is, of course, the most fragile of things and soon the bullets shattered it that crackle of idf gunfire came around 04 00 in the morning. The burst killed 20 people. And according to local journalists who were on the scene that triggered a chain reaction, a deadly stampede of people running from danger only to stumble into even more some were trampled, some were run over by the trucks themselves. Now, daylight brought clarity on the catastrophe, the painful and unnerving clarity of at all men use donkeys to card away corpses from the pictures. Its hard to discern who died from israeli gunfire and who died by stampede. When donkeys werent an option, bystanders loaded the bodies onto pallets, they drag them, carrying them men were suddenly turned into pall inside of gaza city near its already hollowed out hospitals. The scale of the slaughter gets even more obvious the floor is now a triage table and for others, they arrived simply beyond saving any able bodied person who was nearby is now a Makeshift Medic Blood Soaking through the close of those trying to help, even if helping means ferrying bodies draped in white sheets others crouched down, heads hung in sorrow at a row of people who helped could not reach in time this man whose identity cnn does not know, is already beyond the grasp of that outstretched hand seeking to give him just one more moment of comfort. Cnn cannot fully confirm the israeli account of this incident, nor can see an unconfirmed the palestinian version of events. But without question, what happened here is a stain on humanity this is how israel has described what happened in that crowd the trucks went through, they were surrounded by hundreds of people, thousands of people perhaps. And as they were trying to loot the goods on the trucks it appears that the trucks continued to move forward and this is the unfortunate reality of Mass Casualty Event that actually has very little or nothing to do with israel nothing to do with his real unfortunate is what these government says. But you cant disconnect this war. First of course, sparked by an act of brutality from hamas from the widespread famine that is currently occurring inside of gaza, where people, children are simply wasting away our children die of hunger. They went to get a bag of flour in order to be by children. Some will run over others were shot now, palestinians dont even want the help. They say they would rather starve. If it means watching their children die is the cost of eating these individuals were not injured in war, rather, they will harm to wipe, trying to provide for their families the situation is surreal and chaotic. If aid is to come to us this way, we dont want it we dont want to live on the blood of our children again, as a reminder, palestinians have lived through 145 days of near nonstop death. Theyve now had to watch more people die. The only question tonight is this a Tipping Point . Or will this get Lost In The Fog Of War is just another day, another unfortunate series of events that ended with death and without change. Joining me now, mehdi hassan, hes the founder of zaizhou news. It launches on substack next month and his book win every argument is also out now on paperback. Many thanks for joining us tonight. Its good to see you. Look israel as we just laid out in the last few hours, have tried to frame this as a tragedy, but just not one that is their fault the idf says it fired Warning Shots to try to disperse the crowd around that convoy do you lend any credibility to that explanation . And from the eyes of the world does it matter what the explanation is for what we saw unfold . All right. Well abby, thanks so much for having me on the show and thank you for that very important, very powerful intro. You did just there in terms of believing the israelis, i would say that it took multiple innocent black people to die at the hands of police in this country, whether its breonna taylor, whether its freddy gray, whether its george floyd for people in our industry ib to start saying, well, maybe we shouldnt just blindly believe Police Statements after shootings happen. And i feel like we still havent quite reached that point in the middle east with the Israeli Military, the Israeli Military tend to say things that turn out not to be true, both before gaza, when they killed shireen abu akleh, us citizen, had lied about it, or read during this conflict, so many lives, the Israeli Military has told about a terrorist godless under the Rantisi Hospital Or command and control center under the alshifa hospital. A documentary in lebanon that they claimed was palestinians face making their own wounds. So many, you cant even count. And now we are told today well actually it was just a stampede even though eyewitnesses, abby say that the israelis opened via israeli tanks open fire without warning, according to one eyewitness in the washington, both doctors say that the bodies they got at the hospital, you showed the pictures on people on donkeys well, mostly bullet wounds, not stampede wounds. The israelis open foreign hungry people trying to get flour. Its being called a Flower Massacre for that reason. And you asked is, is it a Tipping Point . I mean, in any normal world, it should be in any other conflict. It would be abby when putin did stuff like this in ukraine, we condemn them when assad did stuff like this in syria, we condemn them when israel starves Hundreds Of Thousands of people and then shoots people who go to get flower. Whereas the condemnation for the United States government, the state department spokesman, would not condemn israel today. So its a tragedy is at a Tipping Point. I wish it was as i suspect it isnt. What President Biden has said is that he has acknowledged the events that happened and says, it will likely complicate the negotiations that theyve been working on for a temporary ceasefire from bidens perspective, do you think this could be the incident that pushes him to actually rethink how he approaches this relationship with this particular Israeli Government and this war as i argued it out, guardian piece recently, joe biden has the power to pick up the phone and end this war. He can ring the israeli Prime Minister and say were cutting you off. Were cutting off a, were cutting off armaments. Israel, israelis themselves, israeli general, so we cant do this war without america. He hasnt done it. He didnt do it after 10,000 dead. He didnt do it off to 20,000 dead. Today, we cross 30,000 dead. You have to ask the question why this is a man whos seen as the great comforter in chief, the great empath has had huge personal tragedy in his own family. And yet 30,000 palestinians according it was own Defense Secretary today, 25,000 women and children. How on earth has he not stop the war till now . How another we still debating this and abbey onn on the situation on aid. I just got to point out here four out of five of the hungriest people in the world or in gaza right now, even with or without those aid trucks, people are starving a two month old baby call mahmoud fatou, starve to death earlier this week in gaza, this is not a natural disaster, this is a manmade famine. Food is plentiful. Its available, its a few miles away and yet its being blocked. In fact, at the israeli crossing abbey, i dont know how cnn viewers know people are putting up bouncy castles. Israeli protesters, and eating popcorn and candy, cotton candy and blocking the aid. That is crazy it do you think mary that there is look, i think you understand that president , you say present biden can just pick up the phone and cut it all off. You you also understand he probably wont do that. So if you were to give him advice today, knowing what he is likely to be able to get to a yes on what is the one thing that you think he should do today that would make this better marginally better tomorrow for gazans it simply it is get a ceasefire and it is within his power to get a ceasefire. Its within the power of the Un Security Council to get to see if i remember the rest of the world wants a ceasefire. Its america that is blocked this at the Un Security Council, even other western nations have backed a ceasefire its biden, blocking it so glad. Is he, if he was able to get that ceasefire that hes been discussing over the weekend, you would view that as progress . Anything at this point is progress when hundreds of people are being killed every day. But i would point out use the right word marginally better. A new study came out this week that said, even if you get a ceasefire tomorrow, 6. 5 thousand palestinians will die in the next six months from the Public Health conditions. And if you dont get a ceasefire tomorrow, 58,000 palestinians will die over the next six months once we will be complicit in that, its our weaponry, its our money, its our diplomatic support. And our president can stop this and i hope he does it real quick. I dont think he well, before you go, i mean, obviously, you know, this has become a Major Political issue for the president. Do you think that if it does cost him the presidency, that it should given his decisions on this war what i would say is that joe biden has rightly said for the last few years that donald trump poses an existential threat to our democracy. The idea that he would risk not only his own presidency but the future of american democracy for the sake of Benjamin Netanyahu and itamar ben gvir, and Bezalel Smotrich and the rest of the fascist in israel is bizarre and inexplicable to me. All right, many, hassan, thank you very much for all of that thanks, abby and up next breaking news tonight, special counsel jack smith, announcing his preferred date for Donald Trumps documents, trial as we learn what prospective jurors will be asked, plus the dual at the border, what President Biden did not announce as trump pushed fears about migrants. This is Newsnight Cnn News Night with abby phillip. Hes brought to you by. So tick two fine. Now, youve so tick to is the treatment youve been looking for. 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You have to dig to get to the truth this is going to read for everybody as doubts rise, the Donald TrumpsElection Interference Case will happen at all before the election. The trial over his classified documents well that very well might, thats if jack smith gets his way. Now, tonight, the Justice Department is asking for eight july 8th start date, but with trumps immunity claims in the hands of the Supreme Court, seems thats unlikely. But were also tonight getting a look at the fight between trumps lawyers and special counsel over what questions can actually we be asked of people who might be on that jury . The first do you believe 2020, the president ial election was stolen . Prosecutors want that one. The defense does not. The next question also facing the objection from the defense . Do you have any opinions, feelings, or beliefs about the Us Department of justice or the fbi prosecutors also want to know where jurors get their news on the defense side, lawyers want to ask the jury about their personal politics. Are you registered to vote . Are you registered with a particular Party Affiliation . Did you vote in the 2020 president ial election now, jack smith doesnt like any of those questions along with this do you have any negative views about Law Enforcement including the fbi, federal prosecutors, criminal defense attorneys, judges, and politicians joining me now to discuss this. Tim parlatore, hes a former attorney for donald trump, and elie ms dahl justice correspondent and columnist for the nation, as well as host of the new podcast. Contempt of court. So elie, what do these Juror Questions tell you about the strategy on the Prosecution Side and tell us a lot. I think theyre pretty standard. I mean, at this point, asking whether or not you believe the election was stolen is a simple question of mental competence, right . No different than asking, does too plus two equal four or is the earth flat, right . Lets not, its not a big idea. Its not a big deal to try to screen out jurors who are mentally incompetent to sit in judgment of others. And at this point in our history, whether or not you know, who won the election