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That operation as describing it as a welcome sign that they can continue similar drops in the days and weeks to come. At the same time, a senior us official now says, israel has quote, basically accepted the terms of a Ceasefire Deal release more hostages, and that its now up to hamas to agree. Theres a lot alvarez joining us now live from washington. Priscilla, whats the white house saying about todays drop . Jessica, theyre describing this as a success, but theyre cautioning that more needs to happen to address this humanitarian crisis in gaza. Now, heres what we know so far this included 66 bundles and was done with the Jordanian Air force. In total, it was 38,000 meals though it did not include water or medical supplies. Now the location was chosen then because us officials assessed it was an area where people were sheltering and in need and after the air jobs happen, they did see that civilians approach the assistance and also began to distribute it. But what Administration Officials have been saying is that they want to flood the zone that includes these humanitarian airdrops, while also exploring other avenues like a maritime corridor to get even more assistance in. But none of this is a substitute to the land crossings and making sure that humanitarian aid can also come through there. So while they are touting today as a success, theyre also making clear that a lot more needs to happen to address this dire humanitarian situation that is unfolding in gaza. So priscilla, were also getting word today from a us official on progress toward a ceasefire, a hostage deal. What can you tell us about the latest on those talks . Yeah. Senior Administration Officials expressed some optimism in the direction of these talks have been ongoing for weeks and they said that israel has basically accepted a framework. Now, this framework includes a sixweek ceasefire over the course of those six weeks, a couple of things would happen. There would be a surge of humanitarian aid that would go into gaza the un also would allow for the release of the hostages that are deemed most vulnerable. Thats women, the elderly and the wounded. Now, it would also allow for officials to work on some of the stickier points over the course of that time. That includes the release of hostages who are idf members, while also trying to work through a more enduring plan thats how a Senior Administration official put it. But all of this is going up against the clock. Theyre trying to reach this deal before ramadan and all parties have said that this is a sensitive and delicate opportunity and also that they have to just work around the clock until they can finish the deal and its not a done deal until it is all the way to the finish line. I will also say that this is happening when Vice President Kamala Harris is scheduled to meet with israeli war cabinet member benny gantz on monday. That is a conversation the two will have that well touch on the hostage deal, the humanitarian aid christ humanitarian aid to address the crisis in gaza. And also the day after planning. Thats a priority for the Vice President going in the weeks to come. And thats something that the two will discuss. Benny gantz will also be meeting with National Security adviser Jake Sullivan while hes in town. Jessica, much more to come on that, but thank you so much for that updated reporting. Priscilla alvarez for us in washington, dc, if a new ceasefire really does come together and more hostages are released, and we begin inching closer to an aim the of this conflict, it does raise that question that priscilla was just talking about of what happens, what comes next to gaza as we move ahead and bring me now is Aaron David Miller. Hes a former State Department Negotiator and Senior Fellow at the carnegie endowment. And hagar chemali, shes a former spokesperson for the us mission to the United Nations and the host of the youtube who show. Oh, my world, it is great to have both of you. Thanks so much for coming on this evening. Erin, lets start with you and this potential deal that we seem to be inching closer to its now on hamas to agree. Do you get the impression that we might get to a finish line here . Unfortunately i. Cannot hear aarons, so were going to see if we can work that out, but he got lets go to you for a second. Well work on that audio as well. I want to ask you about these aid drops and what do you make of the aid drops from the United States today and them happening now yes. Well, so these aid drops are not easy to pursue as you as you talked about with the spokesperson john kirby, highlighting how difficult they are, how how extraordinarily expensive it is, how dangerous it is to pursue two airdrops. And the fact that the United States was able so quickly after this tragic event to announce that they would be doing this at a day later to actually airdropped them in partnership with the jordanians is really quite significant. Now, that said, while airdrops are fantastic and helpful, theyre not the most efficient way to get aid to people because they are dangerous, as we said, this is a war zone, but because they cant carry as much aid and food as Truck Convoys can. But what ultimately, what this does is highlight not just helped dire the humanitarian situation is on the ground and how dangerous it is for the palestinians and the risk of famine, obviously, but also how what kind of job the israelis are doing and getting humanitarian aid in and that is not a good job and they could be doing better. And we know that i worked in the us government. I worked closely with the israeli government. I know they could better. They promised 200 trucks a day. Theres a reason for that humanitarian aid is very important during a war. As secretary of defense, lloyd austin said, civilians these are the Center Of Gravity in anymore. And since the beginning of january, we know the average according to New York Times has been 96 trucks a day. But the last month have really been 50. And sometimes as little as 20. And so thats why these, these aid drops are so important, but it doesnt cover the real problem at hand, right . And theyre talking about how do they potentially expand as it the maritime corridor to your point, is it somehow getting more trucks and which is what it sounds like in order to meet the need really needs to happen. But obviously, regardless of how youre delivering it, this Safe Delivery of this aid is really front of mine rat right now, after the deadly disaster around that convoy last week do you get the sense that this is changing aides, aid groups approach on the ground. It certainly, as you said we did start to see these airdrops from the us almost immediately after well, theres certainly going to be thinking of more creative ways. But when youre talking about maritime corridors and airdrops, obviously, these are really only things that can be done with by governments. Its not that easy for International Organizations to come up with a maritime corridor because thats not something that its something that the government has to allow that something that israel pasta has to permit. And so thats something thats better done between the United States and israel, for example. But the fact by the way that the us is rushing to do this as quickly as it can highlights what an emphasis us is put, placing on the need for humanitarian aid and how much theyre willing to carry on themselves. And it also highlights most critically the need for a ceasefire the fact that the us is saying they seem very hopeful that a ceasefire is close. We saw that israel has accepted the latest terms and that now the ball is how hamass court i its hard to say how hamas will react. They rejected the last two proposals and so its hard to say, but at the same time its not in hamass his interest to have this kind of fighting during ramadan. But id also argue it wasnt in hamass interests to pursue the Terrorist Attack of october 7 and sacrifice their entire people in what was to be expected to have an israeli bombardment. But that said to answer your ultimate question, there will be more governments looking at creative ways, but for International Aid unfortunately, theyre going to have to continue focusing on the border over land. Right. And i believe we have Aaron David Miller back with us now. Aaron, ill ill post you my original question, which is just this idea of potentially inching closer to a ceasefire. As we were just discussing, israel according to a us official, basically agreed to it. Its now in hamas. The ball is in hamass court. What do you make of where we are in those discussions and how they could potentially go forward as i mentioned before, it just ignore it ever, nobody ever lost money betting against an Israeli Palestinian agreement and byinlarge, airbus really negotiations usually have only two speeds. And i think this is shown that slow and slower, that said, i think we probably have the best opportunity since the last hostage for Prisoner Exchange in jane in november. Partly because in many respects, both israel and hamas now are under great pressure to cook, to cut a deal. Hamas needs to reup and rearm. They want to defer or delay what is going to happen. Israel is going to mount a considerably heavy Ground Campaign into rafah. So hamas needs to buy time. They also the advent of ramadan and the prisoner releases will boost hamas is stuck among the local population. And i think the israelis two are under greater pressure from hostage families from the war cabinet. Benny gantz, the former minister of defense, and a putative successor to Benjamin Netanyahu is doing washington on monday. I think hes supposed to sit with Vice President harris and Jake Sullivan and i think the war cabinet, benny gantz and his colleague gadi eisenkot, quote, if former Chief Of Staff are also much more inclined to to du hostage for prisoners change. I would only caution the key here. And i think hes really concerned is hamas does not have all of these and i would suggest you that part of the reason for this delay is that the israelis need assurance in verification of which hostages are going to be returned, which hostages are alive . And reportedly 30 of the 134 were either killed on october 7, their bodies brought back to gaza to trade or died in captivity. So the names of the hostages, validating proof of life i think its essential to this to go station. But again, by ramadan, i think theres a reasonable chance for an agreement and aarin, i just want to ask you because of your background in Hostage Negotiations what why do they not know where all these hostages are . Help people understand why they dont have, maybe have a good handle on where they are. Hamas likely because on october 7 of the 250 plus israelis and foreign nationals, including eight or nine americans that were taken. Were not taken only by hamas palestine Islamic Jihad whollyowned subsidiary of the government of iran may have some. And there were reports that clans and families, perhaps even criminal elements ended up taking several. So despite the best intelligence at these and the americans have part of the problem here is verifying that hamas has all of the hostages that they want to trade. And i think this is going to prove to be a serious issue for negotiation. One final point. Im not sure theyve reached an agreement on how many palestinian prisoners and of what of what type and character are going to be exchanged. And for this israeli government, the most rightwing extremist in the states history. A large Prisoner Exchange, including highquality prisoners in eyes, those who have israeli blood on their hands, who have there been charged for convicted of killing israelis . Hamas is going to demand substantial number of those. So again im hoping that in fact were close to an agreement, but, you know, as you know, nothings done until its done. Nothing is agreed to until everything is agreed to hear it all the time in washington, right. Aaron, david miller, and hagar chemali. I think both of you i appreciate it. Thank you jessica still ahead. First lady jill biden, putting trump on notice, blasting him at a Campaign Event is her Campaign Role coming into focus . 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