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Transcripts For CNNW Erin 20240704

Viewers. Thanks for watching. Im wolf blitzer in the situation room. The news continues next on cnn outfront next, the Supreme Court hands trump a win and we are now just hours away from the biggest de and the campaign. Yet, Super Tuesday, then tonight a competent trump celebrating high courts decision to keep him on ballots nationwide. Plus the price of loyalty to trump. Two of the former president s top aides are now facing prison time and a new guilty plea could put more of trumps inner circle in jeopardy and seizing Ukraine Russia is rolling out a new map that consumes much of the entire country of ukraine. Tonight, you go to the front lines where putins men are facing little resistance tonight. Lets go outfront and good evening. Im Erin Burnett Outfront tonight. The Supreme Court does it again, handing another major wind, donald trump, allowing him to stay on the colorado ballot and choosing to ignore the question at the heart of the case, which is whether trump is an insurrectionist under the 14th amendment. It comes just hours before trump is set to have his its biggest election night. Yet, voters in 15 states, as you can see on that map, heading to the polls, there are 865 delegates up for grabs and trump could win nearly all of them. Then york times right now is estimating 90 of those delegates will be awarded to trump tomorrow. That would leave him just shy of the 1215 needed to secure the republican nomination for a third time. Obviously, well see how those votes for tomorrow, but today, trumps sure is feeling the wind at his back, praising the Supreme Court it was a very important decision. Were very wellcrafted and i think it will go a long way toward bringing our country together, which our country dates essentially, you cannot take somebody out of a race because an opponent would like to have it that way well, todays ruling by the Supreme Court was historic and what it means, in addition to colorado is a trump will be on the ballot in to other states where he had been removed for inciting an insurrection, maine and illinois but just to be clear, when you heard trump, theyre talking about the ruling. He is praising the court because it ruled in his favor. He is not praising the court because he believes in the american judicial system every case it gets filed in the ninth circuit. We get beaten. The courts are not helping us. I have to be honest with you, its ridiculous somebody said i should not criticize judges, okay. Ill criticize judges have been treated very unfairly by this judge. Now, this judges of mexican heritage. Im building a wall and twitter after the Supreme Court ruled against him regarding the release of his taxes, trump said, this is all a political prosecution. Well, the Supreme Court rejected his effort to overturn the Election Results in texas. He tweeted the Supreme Court really let us down no wisdom, no courage his Attorney Raising Eyebrows when she seemed to suggest that the court owes trump because he appointed three of the current sitting justices people like kavanaugh, who the president fought for, who the president went through hell to get into place. Hell step up of course thats not what its supposed to be about at all. Now, kavanaugh did join for other conservative justices by writing that no state can kick any federal candidate insurrection are not off the ballot and even though the final ruling in terms of being on the colorado ballot was unanimous, the liberal justices and one conservative justice appointed by trump, Amy Coney Barrett did take issue with how far the ruling went to the liberals, writing the American People have the power to vote for and elect candidates for national office. And that is a great and glorious thing. The man who drafted and ratified the 14th amendment, however, had witnessed an insurrection and rebellion to defend slavery. They wanted to ensure that those who had participated in that insurrection and impossible future insurrections could not return to prominent roles. Kristen holmes begins our coverage. She is outfront live near maralago in florida and kristen, i know you have been talking to your sources in the Trump Campaign and obviously this is a big win, unanimous from the court, where is the Trump Campaign now focusing . Well their focus really is on the General Election. I mean, they want to enter this week feeling very optimistic, both politically and legally, talk about what happens next. Legally well, first of all, playing those clips was really something its very striking to see how donald trump talks about the court in various different stages particularly when he hes not winning. But today he was very gracious. Now he is going into this week, Super Tuesday. He is poised to win so many delegates that he becomes just shy. Of the gop nomination or when i talk to his various advisers, they say they want to look past anything primary related and focus just on joe biden, just on this General Election. And in fact, there were starting to talk about how he could Counter Program State Of The Union. They were looking at different ideas. He could live posted on truth social, he could put up videos at one point, they were talking about having him do some remarks as a prebuttal to the State Of The Union but really, again, they are entering this week, as you said, feeling very good about where they stand both politically and legally and its not just about winning this case they thought they were going to win this case. They felt like this was the case of all of their different legal cases that they had the most legs to stand out of the most evidence. They thought that they were going to be successful here the part thats really carried them is this Immunity Claim as the Supreme Court deciding to take up that argument, the reason for that is because they believe and if you talk to many, if not all of trumps advisers that ive spoken to, they do not believe he is going to face a federal case before the November 2024 election. And remember, this was there big goal . Their goal was to push and delay an exhaust every single avenue. There was not any kind of trial in terms of federal trials before that november election with the hope that donald trump wins in november, then can dismiss these cases and they move forward. The cases go away. They believe that is happening now, particularly given the fact back that if you look at the Supreme Court timeline and of course, we dont have confirmation that its going to be pushed past november. But if you look at the Tideline Hearing the remarks in april late april getting an answer in zhu having to prep for the trial, giving them months of discovery of preparation. They believe its going to push it past that november deadline and the deadline, of course in the election. And that is what theyve been trying to do this entire time. All right. Kristen, thank you very much. In our coverage continuing here, i want to go to the democratic governor of colorado jared polis. And thank you very much. I appreciate your time, governor. So you know you hear kristin, that trumps team, they feel good, they feel great legal side of things. Theyre feeling good they dont believe any trials are going to happen in the federal cases until after the election so youve had a few hours here to digest this. Do you think the Supreme Court today made the right decision in saying that the trump pass to beyond the ballot in colorado well, tomorrow Super Tuesday in colorado, of course, other republican ballot are not only donald trump and nikki haley, but several people who dropped out after the filing deadlines. So in november, i think the democratic nominee should face the republican nominee. And frankly, if the republican nominee is donald trump, and that seems likely competent colorado, well, well go for President Biden but i guess just to try to understand in terms of the decision itself i guess youre not surprised by it. Probably no ones really surprised by it where you surprised that it was unanimous. I mean, do you feel disappointment or not no, im im glad its unanimous. I mean, i think if anything really adds authority to the court, there overseeing a number of Different Cases related to the former president , including cases that could affect the time timeline for his criminal charges and potentially even the civil charges against them. So again, i ive always said i think the democratic nominee should face the republican nominee in november. And i think that Donald Trumps brand is frankly toxic to the republican brandon, colorado, and thats one of the reasons that hes running so far behind here. So the group that brought the Trump Ballot Challenge in colorado, theyre arguing governor that they lost on technical legal technicalities at the Supreme Court. And theyre honing in, obviously on the crucial thing here, which is that the courts opinion did not address the heart of the matter. Right. Which is the reason why trump would have been removed from the ballot, which is whether hes an insurrectionist they just avoided that, which of course your states Supreme Court had, had done do you think the court should have gone further given whats at stake, given in fact, that this timeline is kristen is just laying out. Hes at the American People may not get any kind of illegal verdict other than this, right . Should they have made a statement there on the insurrection issue well, first of all, you know, when talking to me, youre talking to a nonattorney, so i just want to make that disclaimer. There are governors that are attorneys as well. I was in business before i went into politics. I dont think i think former President Trump became less popular with january 6, but frankly, it was a lot of the shenanigans during his presidency that i think made him is unpopular as he is in colorado and frankly underwater across the country as well. I think hes really the weakest possible republican nominee. And while as an american, we wish that both parties had strong candidates. I also happen to be a democrat and obviously hes somebody that im confident we can defeat november. So youve said having trump on the ballot is better than biden. For biden than facing nikki haley, at least youve made that point before governor and now theyre of course, the New York Times poll this weekend. Perhaps gave you pause as it did many and understanding at least the current state of the race according to that poll, it shows trump beating biden nearly threequarters of voters in that New York Times poll say biden is just too old to be an effective president. And that includes 61 of voters who supported biden last time around governor. Now i know that you were recently with biden at the white house. Youre the vice chair of the National Governors association. So you just had a chance to spend some time with him personally . What can you tell us about that . Do you have any concerns about his mental acuity or ability to do the job a little look. First, of course, is going to be erased down to the wire was last time too look. No, i spent a lot of time with the president and he actually sat at his table for dinner. He was nice enough to entertain me and governor cox and my my my daughter was with me and he and jill were terrific and he just spoke frankly with us and 42 governors or however many were at that event, he answered questions on the spot, even called an additional questions. So i mean, he was in colorado few months ago with in pueblo where we visited a wind turbine factory. I got to spend a lot of time with them look, the president is is terrific. I mean, the same guy he always was. I got to know when he was Vice President was just a wonderful, thoughtful person, always shows that empathy, empathy, and warmth, and he surrounds himself with a great team that i think is doing well with record low unemployment. And i think inflation is on his way down and those fundamental most will help his reelection but in terms of the mental acuity issue, just since this is clearly so front and central with voters, is there any anecdote that you could share on that . Well, again, i mean, first of all, hes same age basically as the likely republican nominee. I mean, theyre in high school at the same time and yes. I think that theres probably if youre comparing Health Problems to Health Problems, theres, its probably more likely than the other guy has more problems and the likely democratic nominee. But no lucky. Hes, hes its right on top of everything. I mean, hes hes the same guy that ive always known and hes able be enjoys telling funny stories and engage and i think its great to the staff is getting them out there more, right. I mean, its been its busy being president. I get that. Im a Chief Executive of a state. You always have to balance the work you do with being available to the public. Im glad hes getting out there more Evaluation Winter the border. Im glad he shows his strength. And the more he gets out there interacts with people the better the better youll do. And you also got to remember that this is a guy that has always had a stuttering issue, is very open about talking about it hes and i think thats part of his charm, frankly, is that very Human Dimension to it . The but youre not going to compare them on oratory to an orator, but hes somebody that oneonone and in small groups has always been the dynamic, thoughtful leader that he is today. All right, well, governor, i appreciate your time. Thank you very much. And all right. Good to see you, governor and the former Trump White House lawyer ty cobb, is outfront with me now and ty here we are you predicted it three months ago. You can on the show, you predicted how you thought the Supreme Court would rule on the colorado case, less anyone forgot here is ty cobb three months ago i think it could be 90 and Supreme Court for trump you are right so whats it stands out to tay and the actual opinions . So i thought the opinions were solid. I think i think the court picked it past that you know brought It Back Unanimity by focusing on the Federalism Aspects making it clear that the decision to bump a president ial candidate from state ballot was a uniquely federal decision. Whether, whether a former president and could be disqualified uniquely federal decision . Yes and i think theyre i think theyre 100 , right . Its nine, nothing nothing, nothing really to argue about there. The argument that they have over whether the court went too far as Amy Coney Barrett made it clear, you know, thats understandable. She agrees that they went too far. On the other hand, they didnt go radically far and congress is the only entity mentioned in article three that could have enforcement authority. Youd have to youd have to really reach out to derive authority elsewhere. So i dont think you can coral necessarily about the opinion being no radical in any way. The incremental steps that they took to enforce the perception they only congress could act, i think was the right to was the right move on. The other hand, you know, as Amy Coney Barrett said, the most important takeaway here is the unanimity. Yes. And that is important. What do you like the ruling or not . Something . I hope people can celebrate that those justices who clearly disagreed, for example, on the issue of president ial immunity and how to handle that, did come to a unanimous decision here. And were able to do that. But this issue of insurrection, and obviously you had i know you werent expecting them to weigh in on that, but were you surprised at all that they didnt obviously, as you point out, saying, very narrowly on the issue of federalism here, and not weighing in on the issue of whether the former president was an insurrectionist when given the schedule in the calendar here, we may get no ruling from the court that has anything to do with his role in january 6. This mightve been the only other know youre 100 , right . Erin . And as always, you know, this is, this is a situation where they had no reason. Once you once you decide that the state court had no authority to act whatever they did is irrelevant. So no, there was no reason to parse it. And i will say, you know, people forget that on the insurrection side, its not as difficult as some pundits have suggested that insurrectionists, theyre gonna be running wild. There is a statute congress has already yeah, good. 18 usc 23, 83, which criminalizes insurrection and disqualifies people who are convicted under that statute should, should bidens Justice Department want to pursue that . They could do that. Likewise, keep in mind that the january 6 committee interpreted the statute or excuse me, the interpreted the Section Three and the issue identically with the Supreme Court and reco

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